What nobody tells you about losing weight
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Things they don’t tell you about losing weight:
Don’t mouth off to your trainer. Especially not in the Endless Hallway of Doom.
Ask me how I know. 🤦🏻♀️9 -
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@springlering62 What @mtaratoot said! Come on, you know you wanna tell the whole story 🤪5
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@springlering62, if not the whole story, at least please just explain "the Endless Hallway of Doom". I'm intrigued.6
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There’s a very long, little used hallway in the gym that trainers use for lunges, bear crawls, sidesteps with bands, etc. you can get 25 in each direction if you go to the end.
Mine had me squat all the way down on my haunches and frog leap up and back to super low squat, half the hall and back.
When I finished, I got cocky and said,”oh that wasn’t so bad, we do those in yoga all the time”.
I know her Evil Grin mode by now, and immediately knew I’d made a mistake. She doubled the next two rounds, to the end and back.
It was a matter of pride to mack it off and not complain, but she knew, oh, she knew.
Some of the noises that come from that hall make the whole gym stop and stare. Some poor fella was doing bear crawls and was gasping so loudly that we all tiptoed over to see what was going on, while I saw a couple of the cardiac rehab personnel eyeing the defib machine was close by. The crowd tactfully melted away when he headed back down the hall. He did it, though, so bully for him.
Getting back into shape is no playjoke! 😱13 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
Statistically you are not wrong, about 80% get back to the starting weight and then some more.
I think the key is to define how life should be after you have lost weight, because if you return back to your life before weight loss the weight WILL COME BACK.
But living like when you lose weight is no option either, not for life.
So adding a list of life requirements and then calculate a weekly calorie budget could be the key. If you want wine on a friday you cannot have pizza on a weekday etc.
Keeing the fat-clothes will bot clutter my home AND tell myself that I didn't believe in myself enough. I will rather pay the price if I fail.10 -
springlering62 wrote: »There’s a very long, little used hallway in the gym that trainers use for lunges, bear crawls, sidesteps with bands, etc. you can get 25 in each direction if you go to the end.
Mine had me squat all the way down on my haunches and frog leap up and back to super low squat, half the hall and back.
When I finished, I got cocky and said,”oh that wasn’t so bad, we do those in yoga all the time”.
I know her Evil Grin mode by now, and immediately knew I’d made a mistake. She doubled the next two rounds, to the end and back.
It was a matter of pride to mack it off and not complain, but she knew, oh, she knew.
Some of the noises that come from that hall make the whole gym stop and stare. Some poor fella was doing bear crawls and was gasping so loudly that we all tiptoed over to see what was going on, while I saw a couple of the cardiac rehab personnel eyeing the defib machine was close by. The crowd tactfully melted away when he headed back down the hall. He did it, though, so bully for him.
Getting back into shape is no playjoke! 😱
So awesome you did it. Gawd, I need a gym like that to kick my butt even more, cept' I can't afford a trainer. Guess I have to kick my own butt
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It's a whole different emotional / physical ball game over 60. So much more maintenance, less energy, less motivation. Still, we gotta do, what we gotta do!
Feeling so much better when I just accept it's a daily chore. Keep it moving.7 -
Schwellness wrote: »It's a whole different emotional / physical ball game over 60. So much more maintenance, less energy, less motivation. Still, we gotta do, what we gotta do!
Feeling so much better when I just accept it's a daily chore. Keep it moving.
I think it’s more a matter of getting the ball rolling, once you’ve started it moving. Gaining velocity, so to speak.
I’m 62, motivation gave way to habit ages ago, I find it hard to sit still now for extended periods when, before, I found it hard simply to get up, unless it was to fetch more Cokes, more snacks.
I try not to feel like it’s all a chore - it’s things I look forward to, otherwise it would be a drag. And I try to keep it a challenge. Can I use a bigger dumbbell today? Go up on a machine? Knock a stroke off a swim lap? Can I insert a more difficult pose in a yoga flow? So what if I fall on my face? I was the one who tried.
Making it a game and keeping myself challenged. A.) I’m not the obese “I could never do that” person of six years ago and B.) it keeps me entertained and in the game
I like to think the ladies in this morning’s muscle madness- mostly over 60- aren’t there because it’s a chore, but came because they looked forward to it.
I tell ya what. I may be 62, but I feel a darn sight younger than I did at 50. Forty, even. Movement is a gift. Be grateful for it, savour it, and treat it that way.24 -
Sorry, not the Lecture Thread.7
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@springlering62 I personally appreciate your perspective. I’ve managed to make that same paradigm shift, by deciding to look for physical activities that are actually enjoyable to me. It was quite the search 😂 and frankly, there were awful moments along the way. But I went from “I could never do that” and “That looks unpleasant” to “Hmm, looks interesting, let me try” and “I can’t wait to do that again!” and my life has opened up so much. So many fun adventures! I don’t think age matters as much as attitude does.11
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springlering62 wrote: »
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I try not to feel like it’s all a chore - it’s things I look forward to, otherwise it would be a drag. And I try to keep it a challenge. Can I use a bigger dumbbell today? Go up on a machine? Knock a stroke off a swim lap? Can I insert a more difficult pose in a yoga flow? So what if I fall on my face? I was the one who tried.
Making it a game and keeping myself challenged. A.) I’m not the obese “I could never do that” person of six years ago and B.) it keeps me entertained and in the game
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I tell ya what. I may be 62, but I feel a darn sight younger than I did at 50. Forty, even. Movement is a gift. Be grateful for it, savour it, and treat it that way.takinitalloff wrote: »@springlering62 I personally appreciate your perspective. I’ve managed to make that same paradigm shift, by deciding to look for physical activities that are actually enjoyable to me.
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I went from “I could never do that” and “That looks unpleasant” to “Hmm, looks interesting, let me try” and “I can’t wait to do that again!” and my life has opened up so much. So many fun adventures! I don’t think age matters as much as attitude does.
I'm on board with all of this. I think this kind of mindset shift is a big, big NSV.
I was one of those "chosen last in gym class" kids. As I aged, I went into new physical activities with reluctance and self-doubt, if at all. Of course I usually failed, if I even tried.
But eventually, somehow, I found activities that are truly fun to me - so fun that I'd do them even if they weren't good for me. I did them a lot. I got better at them. It happened sloooowwwwly - I still have more athletic enthusiasm than athletic talent.
But I'm fitter at 68 by far than I was at 40 - not just fitter for my age, but actually physically stronger, more flexible, better endurance, better cardiovascular performance, etc. These days, as long as I don't think a new thing actually has high risk of injury (due to pre-existing issues), I'll try it, see if I can do it, see if it's fun. There have been lots of wins along the way.
If a person has to commit to something that's a chore, in order to be healthier, and they do it, I respect that, sincerely. I'm not that kind of mature, disciplined person, unfortunately.
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It occurs to me, at 62, I could probably ace the President’s Physical Fitness Test that I so miserably and publicly failed as an underweight, anemic 13 year old.
The week or two leading up to and during that every year was my very definition of hell.
And, yes, not only chosen last for every thing, but to choruses of “oh, man, do we have to take her?”13 -
JessiBelleW wrote: »Your bum might change shape and none of your underwear will stay put…… you may have to figure out which shape underwear will now suit 🤷♀️
I laughed at this because this is SO true for me. no more boylegs 🤦♀️7 -
Tom59750624 wrote: »
Right? I'm experiencing exactly the same thing. My magic potion is a Kale and Broccoli salad, seems like the 2 of them together (with some other veggies thrown in) are like magic, moves EVERYTHING along very nicely. 4-5 leaves of Kale, 1/2 head of Broccoli, Tomato, Bell Pepper (any color), 2-4 Carrots, 100g Kim Chi, Tbsp Olive Oil, 2-3 Tbsp Balsamic Vinegar and Bob's your uncle.ritaknowles1 wrote: »Big battle with constipation.
I have tried many remedies, kiwi, linseed/flaxseed, magnesium, opti constipation but it seems that it works to start with and then I am back to being constipated. According to my nutritionist, I eat enough vegetables and fibres but still never comfortable and feeling bloated. I suppose if you eat less there is less to pass out.
You can try taking taking a probiotic that has at least 10 billion active bacteria. It was life changing for me. And fair warning, the first couple of weeks you may have bloating, gas, diarhhea as your stomach adjusts but it will adjust and you will feel a marked difference.3 -
No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.No one wants to hear this, but don't get rid of your fat clothes. Only 5% of those who lose weight are going to maintain the loss long term. Nothing is worse than having to go shopping and have to spend $$$ for larger sizes after you start to regain. Its easier to go shopping in the back of your closet or in the box in the cellar. It does not mean you don't have faith that you will maintain. It means you are being realistic. Wait about 5 years, then you can donate any that don't fit.
Well THAT'S a sobering statistic !!
Following up on @carolpa1's post, here is some data to take comfort in:
JANUARY 13, 2020
8 MIN READ
Unexpected Clues Emerge About Why Diets Fail
The physiology of weight regain still baffles scientists, but surprising insights have emerged
BY DANIEL ENGBER & NATURE MEDICINE
... Just last year, a team of researchers at the University of Alabama at Birmingham, led by David Allison, put out a rodent study of a provocative idea: what if there were lasting benefits to losing weight—even when that weight is almost certain to be regained? The researchers randomized 552 obese, Black-6 mice into four groups: one set of animals ate a high-fat diet at will and remained obese; another two sets received either moderate or more extreme caloric restriction, and stabilized at a ‘normal’ or intermediate weight; and a fourth was put through several yo-yo cycles of restricted and ad libitum feed, losing weight and then gaining it right back.
At the end of the study, the mice that remained obese throughout the experiment had markedly increased mortality: they lived, on average, for just 21 months, as compared to the 26-month average lifespan of the mice that had been put on the most extreme diets and kept at a normal weight. More surprising was the fact that the yo-yo mice also gained longevity, by virtue of their weight cycling: they lived an average of 23 months, about the same as the mice that were kept under chronic, moderate calorie restriction.
In other words—at least for mice—it may be that weight regain doesn’t cancel out all the benefits of dieting. Those who feel they’re going around in circles may take some solace in this notion: even if your fat cells tug and twist your weight loss back to zero, that doesn’t mean that you’ve been pulled back to where you started.
link - https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/unexpected-clues-emerge-about-why-diets-fail/
Did those mice need to buy new clothing, or had they kept their old stuff just in case?
Personally I'm a bit of a hoarder so it's hard for me to throw anything away. My bigger clothing is put aside for now and hope it stays that way. ~ Halfway thru goal of 40 kg loss.6 -
@shemenduk Thanks for posting that, interesting.
I came to this thread today to write about how, due to all of the work I've done to change my mindset, I actually no longer want the things I wanted before I started losing weight, and I also no longer fear the things I feared before I started losing weight.
For example, I used to think about weight loss as a series of efforts and denials. Efforts like exercising, spending extra time preparing healthy food instead of eating convenience foods, or even having to invest extra mental effort on doing whatever would cause weight loss, rather than just doing what comes easily (getting take-out) or feels pleasurable (eating ice cream while watching a show). Denials like missing out on restaurant meals, or having to go without cake or bread or chocolate.
Having changed my lifestyle from the ground up, I find that I don't miss restaurant meals, I enjoy cooking exactly what I want to eat and what will make me feel good, and the joy I get from feeling good far outweighs the amount of mental and physical effort I'm having to invest. Especially now that I'm further down the road -- because tasks like logging my food or preparing nutritious meals have become quick and easy with practice; and exercising is actually a pleasant activity, now that I know what kinds of exercise I like, and I'm also 80 lbs lighter and in better shape.
My entire world view has changed throughout this journey. I no longer think of weight loss as something I have to get done so that I can get back to eating cake later but rather, my new life is so much more fun and enjoyable that "comfort food" has actually lost most of its appeal. I no longer need to eat to make myself feel better, because I already feel good most of the time! And I know that as long as I continue eating the kinds of food that actually make me feel great, I will continue to feel better and better. So I enjoy my veggies & fruit, my healthy fats & proteins, rather than numbing the discomfort for a few minutes with ice cream and then feeling sorry for myself because I gave in again.
I have come to the conclusion that this process of re-thinking things is really why I managed to stick to this round of weight loss, and will continue to improve my life going forward, rather than failing like I have failed every time I tried before. I no longer think, feel, or act the way I used to, and therefore I will never have to go back to how I used to live. That is the other benefit of not giving up: it may not work out the first time, or even the third or sixth time. But we learn something every time we try, and if we keep going, eventually we really can change.15 -
takinitalloff wrote: »@shemenduk Thanks for posting that, interesting.
I came to this thread today to write about how, due to all of the work I've done to change my mindset, I actually no longer want the things I wanted before I started losing weight, and I also no longer fear the things I feared before I started losing weight.
For example, I used to think about weight loss as a series of efforts and denials. Efforts like exercising, spending extra time preparing healthy food instead of eating convenience foods, or even having to invest extra mental effort on doing whatever would cause weight loss, rather than just doing what comes easily (getting take-out) or feels pleasurable (eating ice cream while watching a show). Denials like missing out on restaurant meals, or having to go without cake or bread or chocolate.
Having changed my lifestyle from the ground up, I find that I don't miss restaurant meals, I enjoy cooking exactly what I want to eat and what will make me feel good, and the joy I get from feeling good far outweighs the amount of mental and physical effort I'm having to invest. Especially now that I'm further down the road -- because tasks like logging my food or preparing nutritious meals have become quick and easy with practice; and exercising is actually a pleasant activity, now that I know what kinds of exercise I like, and I'm also 80 lbs lighter and in better shape.
My entire world view has changed throughout this journey. I no longer think of weight loss as something I have to get done so that I can get back to eating cake later but rather, my new life is so much more fun and enjoyable that "comfort food" has actually lost most of its appeal. I no longer need to eat to make myself feel better, because I already feel good most of the time! And I know that as long as I continue eating the kinds of food that actually make me feel great, I will continue to feel better and better. So I enjoy my veggies & fruit, my healthy fats & proteins, rather than numbing the discomfort for a few minutes with ice cream and then feeling sorry for myself because I gave in again.
I have come to the conclusion that this process of re-thinking things is really why I managed to stick to this round of weight loss, and will continue to improve my life going forward, rather than failing like I have failed every time I tried before. I no longer think, feel, or act the way I used to, and therefore I will never have to go back to how I used to live. That is the other benefit of not giving up: it may not work out the first time, or even the third or sixth time. But we learn something every time we try, and if we keep going, eventually we really can change.
Great post, IMO. Both insightful and inspiring. :flowerforyou:6 -
"What nobody tells you about losing weight"
1. That the (non-degreed) food police are everywhere and feel their opinion is the only opinion that matters. I rarely go into the bariatric groups because I don't need anyone who doesn't know me or my journey to feel they may judge me or try and shame me because I ate something that's not on their eating plan but is on mine.
2. That just because it's a healthy food, doesn't mean it's a weight loss food.10 -
Food police.
OMG, ain’t that the truth. And let’s not forget the food SS, the ones who silently watch and radiate disapproval of everything you eat, too.
Sometimes I think the silent watchers are worse than the intrusive “You can’t/shouldn’t eat that!” crew.4 -
Silent watchers are absolutely the worst. They wield emoticons like a weapon and that is as hurtful as words.5
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The closer you get to your goal weight the small losses are much more noticeable. Intellectually I knew this but it is still driving me crazy. Case in point, I bought a new pair of jeans online and when they arrived they seemed a little big (not much just didn't fit quite the way I had hoped) I reordered a size smaller but wasn't sure they would fit so I kept the first pair thinking I'll return one pair after I see which fits best. Smaller size arrives and fits better so I keep the second pair and return the first. I launder the jeans and hang in my closet. Fast forward maybe 2 weeks (maybe less) and I put them on and had to take them right off to double check the size. Did I return the wrong pair? No, they are the smaller pair but now fit looser than I prefer. I have only lost about 3lbs in the last 2 weeks!! I am close to goal (only about 3lbs from my goal) and wasn't going to buy anything until I hit my goal but darn it I had nothing that fit and a few holiday functions plus a trip in early December and wanted to wear clothes that fit, Wonder if hot water and a dryer will shrink them a little?5
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ConnieSTanner wrote: »"What nobody tells you about losing weight"
1. That the (non-degreed) food police are everywhere and feel their opinion is the only opinion that matters. I rarely go into the bariatric groups because I don't need anyone who doesn't know me or my journey to feel they may judge me or try and shame me because I ate something that's not on their eating plan but is on mine.
2. That just because it's a healthy food, doesn't mean it's a weight loss food.
I just came here to say
That after losing 90 pounds and effectively being in maintenance for about a year (I'm still at 25.3? Bmi last week at annual Dr. Appointment, with goal of 24.99. No hurry. It'll happen.) Someone on MFP will still tell me I am eating wrong. I should eat like them.
Lol. Gotta laugh.6 -
Corina1143 wrote: »ConnieSTanner wrote: »"What nobody tells you about losing weight"
1. That the (non-degreed) food police are everywhere and feel their opinion is the only opinion that matters. I rarely go into the bariatric groups because I don't need anyone who doesn't know me or my journey to feel they may judge me or try and shame me because I ate something that's not on their eating plan but is on mine.
2. That just because it's a healthy food, doesn't mean it's a weight loss food.
I just came here to say
That after losing 90 pounds and effectively being in maintenance for about a year (I'm still at 25.3? Bmi last week at annual Dr. Appointment, with goal of 24.99. No hurry. It'll happen.) Someone on MFP will still tell me I am eating wrong. I should eat like them.
Lol. Gotta laugh.
You are flipping awesome! You eat to win, your way!2 -
You seem to smile and laugh a bit more.4
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It seems like only women are commenting here, and that's okay, but I'm going to make a comment from a man's perspective. It is truly delightful to look down in the shower and see more than your gut, if you know what I mean. And that profile you see when you're standing sideways in front of the full-length mirror. Wow! It's true what the urologists say. You will look like you have more when it's not surrounded by fat. It's not my intent here to offend anyone, but if you're a guy, you'll know what I mean.15
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Even when it’s colder in Minnesota?
Sorry, couldn’t resist. 😇8 -
I've seen wrinkly tummy rolls on photos of others who've lost a bunch but it's actually happening to me now
Does it ever go away?
The final, spare tire, donut, roll, that does not seem to want to ever ever go away, is also definitely very very very noticeable... 5 -
Important to know but not talked about often:
At the end of your dieting phase (your cut), you will need to go back to maintenance for a while to let your metabolism reset. This involves carefully tracking your calories as you increase how much you're eating.
During this, you're expected to gain about 2% in water weight (1.5%-2.5% variance day to day). I didn't know this number, so I was sort of fishing in the dark and never quite hit my maintenance in the last phase. I worried that any regain was bad, but a bit of regain is expected and good as long as you don't go beyond it!
It's important to return to maintenance because your metabolism slows over time when dieting, which means at the same calorie deficit, you'll see worsening results. So good to take a break and reset (for about the same time as you dieted).
I think outside of the weightlifting world, I've never seen the idea of 'maintenance' discussed, or 'cutting phases'. I only know now because of my musclehead boyfriend, lol, but I've managed to lose about 70 lbs so far in less than a year without going insane!
better than my last attempt where i lost like 20 lbs over 3 months and then fell flat on my face and gained it all back.6 -
Colderinminnesota wrote: »It seems like only women are commenting here, and that's okay, but I'm going to make a comment from a man's perspective. It is truly delightful to look down in the shower and see more than your gut, if you know what I mean. And that profile you see when you're standing sideways in front of the full-length mirror. Wow! It's true what the urologists say. You will look like you have more when it's not surrounded by fat. It's not my intent here to offend anyone, but if you're a guy, you'll know what I mean.
brave comment.. and being female; and now thinking from your perspective.. ? I can understand how that would matter.. a lot!4
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