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  • barell
    barell Posts: 8 Member
    Let me throw my two cents in regarding weight loss. The past week I have been doing A LOT of research on the nutrition side of P90X, and it seems pretty unanimous that if your weight loss stalls (or doesn't begin) and your are bringing it to your workouts your need to take a very hard look at what you are eating. The shocker for me was how much food they want you to consume. Seems to fly in the face of logic, but I added more calories and in three days I can see and feel a difference. They say 65% of this program is the nutrition and I had kind of blown that off, thinking if I just kept my calories low the weight would come off but it is counterproductive with this program. Just wanted to throw that out there for those of us that aren't seeing the results that we thought we would.
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    My weight is all over the place.

    I started out at about 160 (goal weight I'd reached through diet).
    I was up at 167 just before recovery week.
    Weighed in at 164 last Saturday, but that was a dehydrated weigh in as I'd drank alcohol the night before without taking ion enough water.
    By this Monday just passed I was up to 169.
    This morning back at 166.

    All over the place! Still, I'm not too concerned, my goal here isn't to lose any weight or even any size, I'm trying to gain lean mass and get ripped. I reckon realistically I'll have gained a pound of lean mass since starting - I believe that it's physically impossible to grow more than 1.5lb of muscle mass per month without steroids (and there's something I'll never do!).

    How am I eating? Well I'm aiming at 2600 calories a day with a 40/40/20 macro split. My maintenance level of calories (BMR with activity multiplier) is 2130 so this is a modest surplus, although I'm not eating back any exercise calories because I don't have a HRM so that's a surplus of only 470 to account for my workout burn and to supply my body with the building blocks to grow... Hmm... Now I think of it like that, I realise I'm sitting on the fence here... I need to make my mind up whether to go for bulk and eat another 400 or so quality calories daily or start my cut and eat 4 or 5 hundred less.

    Well, this is all a new experience to me anyway. Just getting into the workout routine was enough of a challenge so I accepted from the start that if I tried to do the P90x diet verbatim I'd probably end up failing and that could bring down the whole thing. Maybe now I'm getting the hang of it, my round 2 will include the strict p90x diet...

    Jay
  • Mike523
    Mike523 Posts: 393 Member
    Good morning team! Yoga X completed this morning to put day 39 in the books! It's official, I actually enjoy Yoga X now... Who would have thought?

    My opinion on the nutrition/calories/weight loss topic is that many people eat way too little while doing P90X. This quickly leads to a lack of energy, inability to push hard during the workouts, sub-par performance, and in the end less than optimal results.

    I've had debates on other forums with people who think they need to eat UNDER their BMR to lose weight, all while doing intense exercise like P90X. UNDER my BMR??!?!?? Are you kidding me??!!?! My BMR is probably less than 1800 calories! If I ate less than that I would walk around like a zombie, and would probably be forced to quit at some point. I am eating 2400-2500 calories most days, maybe a little less (2000-2200) on rest days, and so far in 5.5 weeks of P90X I've lost 6 pounds. That is pretty much EXACTLY the pace I'm looking for, although I only want to lose maybe 5-10 more to get to 170-175. More important than weight at this point to me is getting my body fat percentage down to about 10%. It's about 15% right now.

    Jay, if you're looking to add lean mass, you should be up around 3000 calories I would say. Once I get my body fat down to where i want it, I'll probably do a bulking phase at about 3000 calories to add a little more lean mass myself.

    Anyway, the pictures look great guys, the program works and you guys are working it!

    Legs & Back / Ab Ripper for me in the morning!!!

    BRING IT!

    -Mike
  • nikkif87
    nikkif87 Posts: 193 Member
    Happy Thursday all! On day 37 here, ready for it:explode: Burned 802 calories on Core yesterday, felt fantastic! I did take a pic yesterday Drew just to have for comparison as you said. Still made me a little ill to look at it :sick: Thats ok though I can see differences just from pics of me from the fair in early August, my face and waist is slimmer. Had a NSV last night too! Got to move a slot up on the belt :bigsmile: Made my day. Can't wait to see the final results, hope I look 1/2 as good as Dana! You got it going on girl! Great results! Keep on Bringing it everyone!:drinker:
  • drwstown76
    drwstown76 Posts: 185
    Hey Yall!!! Day 31.... Phase Two is underway! BooM!
    Has anyone heard from Sassy? I haven't seen her post in a while... I REALLY hope she i still with us!

    OK... Back and Bis with ARX! WowiE! Man, that workout is a freaking beast. You were right Mike! Halfway into this thing, I was like... "Cmon Boy! Whats the matter with you!!!" hahahahaha... I freaking love it! :explode:

    So starting today, I have decided to incorporate another serving of good carbs into my diet. I still am trying to get under 10% body fat, but like Mike said, my energy has really dropped off. Plus I got sick. I have no doubt that this was not a coincidence. I feel great and strong.

    Wendy... Thanks for the info on the almond milk... I tried some today and I LOVE IT!!!! 4g of non saturated fat per serving is pretty darn good if you factor in the limited carbs and cals.

    Nikki... Way to go on that pic! You are working your butt on this program... fully committed and strong! Keep it up... You rock.

    Jay and Mike... You guys are the backbone of Team X! Thanks so much for getting in here and updating every day! You definitely make my journey more pleasant.

    Ro and msaap.... Ladies.... KEEP THIS THING GOING! YOUR POSITIVITY IMPACTS ME EVERY TIME I SEE YOUR NAME ON THIS MESSAGE BOARD!

    to the newbies.... welcome! We need you! Thanks for joining....

    Bring It yall! Boom!
    out...:explode:
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Ok, so who here has adjustable dumbbells? Can you explain to me how in the hell we're meant to get through this thing in under 2 hours??

    I feel the same way as I did about Core Synergistics the first time I did it. I'm pretty angry at this video for expecting things that are outside most reasonable home users means. 2 hours I spent doing this routine including pausing after every damn move to change my weights. At one point, I'm sure I changed back and forth between the same 2 weights 4 times! Why in the hell would it be structured that way!?!?

    Ok Tony H, so in addition to the hundred odd quid it costs for the DVD's, we're expected to own a full rack of weights for this are we? I didn't even do the strip set curls. I looked at it and thought "Line up 4 weights? Yeah alright Tony, you go line up 4 weights in your Hollywood home gym and I'll sit here on the floor spinning and un-spinning these adjustables with your mug leering down at me on pause from the screen shall I"... I'd do my best and forget the rest but I can't do my best because I'm spending more time changing weights than I am lifting weights.

    I guess I'm also a bit miffed that I can't get unassisted pullups again. Gone, like I never got them in the first place :(

    Grrr... Frustrated!

    Ok, rant over. Normal positivity will be resumed shortly :wink:

    Jay
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Alright alright, I checked my facts and it was actually about an hour and 40 not including arx which I haven't done yet - it's late, I need to eat dinner, I'll do it later. Should be able to speed it up in future by knowing what weight i need to use for each move so I won't be starting a move then having to wind it back to go again with the proper weight.

    Also gonna buy another set of spinlock bars so I can keep a high weight and a low weight ready on the bar all the time. Should work for most moves.

    What a frustrating workout! Oh well, yoga tomorrow to relax me a bit :)

    Jay
  • Mike523
    Mike523 Posts: 393 Member
    Ok, so who here has adjustable dumbbells? Can you explain to me how in the hell we're meant to get through this thing in under 2 hours??

    I feel the same way as I did about Core Synergistics the first time I did it. I'm pretty angry at this video for expecting things that are outside most reasonable home users means. 2 hours I spent doing this routine including pausing after every damn move to change my weights. At one point, I'm sure I changed back and forth between the same 2 weights 4 times! Why in the hell would it be structured that way!?!?

    Ok Tony H, so in addition to the hundred odd quid it costs for the DVD's, we're expected to own a full rack of weights for this are we? I didn't even do the strip set curls. I looked at it and thought "Line up 4 weights? Yeah alright Tony, you go line up 4 weights in your Hollywood home gym and I'll sit here on the floor spinning and un-spinning these adjustables with your mug leering down at me on pause from the screen shall I"... I'd do my best and forget the rest but I can't do my best because I'm spending more time changing weights than I am lifting weights.

    Just wanted to say that these are the best things I ever bought:

    http://www.amazon.com/Bowflex-SelectTech-Adjustable-Dumbbells-Pair/dp/B001ARYU58

    They're not cheap, but they eliminate this problem.
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Mike, those look awesome! No way i'm affording a set of them though :( got a wedding to save for! :)

    Jay
  • dshalbert
    dshalbert Posts: 677 Member
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    I looked back at my beginning photos from round 1 and I was so angry at the pictures! I looked AWFUL!! I couldn't believe that I let myself get to that point. I started at 240lbs and ended at 197lbs, doing lean. My friends that were obese like me complained about it being to hard, but like most people, I made modifications and kept pushing. If you really want it, you'll do what it takes to lose the weight through exercise and healthy diet.

    I started round 2 at 176lbs, and I hope to lose between 20-30lbs. I'm really loving this new adventure with you guys!!

    Wow! You are an inspiration! I'm just lurking here to see how everyone does. I'm currently doing the Jillian Michaels 30 day SHred and have been thinking about buying P90X but thinking that may be beyond my curren abilities. You all are making me think that I may be able to do it.
  • Sassy_Cass
    Sassy_Cass Posts: 408 Member
    Hey guys I'm alive haha - it's been a rough few days (week almost) I haven't gotten in many workouts as I have been in training with loads of team dinners. I am back home and back at it tonight and planning on getting in day 3 week 4 an bringing it like I did at the start.

    Want to say a huge THANKS to drew Nikki and Wendy for checking in and saying hi. I will update tonight after reading the two pages of posts I missed and how it felt to do back and biceps!

    Thanks again and I'm looking forward to bringing it!
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Sassy! Welcome back! Way to jump straight back into it :)

    Boom!

    Jay
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Wendy - Good Yom Tov for Yom Kippur tomorrow. My fiance is Jewish, although not strict so won't be observing the fast.

    I'd say switch your rest day around and do chest/shoulders/tri's today and rest on fast day. That's what I'd probably do.

    I'm away to Tennessee next week. I fly out on Friday and fly back on Monday. The itinerary is pretty hectic so there's no way I'll be able to do any P90x while out there. My plan is to do a double on Thursday with Back & Biceps in the morning and Yoga X in the afternoon to get one day ahead. Then when I get back on Monday, if I'm not too wiped, I'll do legs/back and do a double of Kenpo and chest/shoulders/tri's on Tuesday. Worst comes to worse, I'll have to skip a day or 2 and I'll call in a couple of the bonus workouts I did the week before I started the round proper.

    Jay
  • nikkif87
    nikkif87 Posts: 193 Member
    Good morning! Glad to see you are back Sassy! We missed you!

    Day 38 today, yoga :indifferent: I haven't decided if I am excited or not about this. I have such a busy day today, guess I will be getting to bed late tonight. I can't complain too much though, looks like Jay has a super busy week, hope it goes smoothly for you! I am glad that Drew and Wendy are on the almond milk kick too. I have been having it with my breakfast for the last month or so and I am addicted. Can't beat 60 calories a cup!

    I hope everyone has a great Friday and a fantastic workout. Don't forget to bring it this weekend, I know I am going to try my best this weekend.
  • msaap
    msaap Posts: 89 Member
    It's FRIDAY!!! Although I'm loving the Doubles, I'm happy for the weekend and 2 days of just cardio. I can't remember who it was that recommended using leg weights with Cardio X, but THANK YOU!! I also use a leg band during Plyo that was recommended to me by a friend. I'm really feeling the workouts in my legs now. THANK YOU GUYS SO MUCH!! :flowerforyou:
  • lukychic04
    lukychic04 Posts: 5
    Hey everyone I am new to this! I am on my first week of p90x! I absolutely LOVE it! I am needing to know what kenpo is compared to so I can put it on my exercise? I have lost 6 lbs. now so I am hoping for great results at the end of my 90 days!!!
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Happy Friday everyone!

    Yoga - Love love love this today. I swear, my feelings on Yoga change more often than I change my socks. Feel like I could do 2 Yoga's today! :)

    The yoga blocks I got the other day reeeaaallly help me a lot for the likes of right angled pose and I even managed to get through most of the one legged warrior 3 and onward section.

    For you guys who are seriously struggling to find time for Yoga X, I would very much recommend the Tony Horton One on One 'Fountain of Youth' Yoga. It's intense but cut back to about 48 minutes. A very good yoga routine with all the essentials in there. It's available on the Beachbody site for like $20. Wouldn't recommend subbing it out completely but it's a great backup option when you're struggling for time.

    I think I'm going to have to get me some of that almond milk, it sounds delish! Thanks for the recommendation Nikki!

    msaap - you're KILLING this! Great job!

    Lukychic - welcome on board. Looking forward to reading your check ins :)

    Make it count today guys. Let's hear how it went for you.

    Jay
  • drwstown76
    drwstown76 Posts: 185
    HeyYall!!!

    Day 32! Over 35% finished... this thing is FLYING BY! BooM!

    I am pretty darn sick... Im having a hard time shaking it. I still managed to get up and push play today... as I will tomorrow!

    Have a GREAT EVENING EVERYONE...

    Drew

    Lucky... welcome to our group.
    sassy... welcome back!
    Msaap! Your a beast! keep it up!
  • Mike523
    Mike523 Posts: 393 Member
    Hey all, Legs & Back & Ab Ripper done today for day 40. Feeling very tired today and kind of under the weather today, but there's no way I'm skipping. I think I was just up too late last night watching the Yankees lose.

    Anyway, it's going to be another late night tonight, I'll be rockin' out with the band until about 1am... So I'll try to sleep in a little tomorrow, and then rock Kenpo X.

    Hope you're all doing great, and have a great weekend!


    -Mike
  • queenfresh
    queenfresh Posts: 32 Member
    Just completed Yoga in week 5 today! I'm 27 years old, 5'1'', and 126 lbs. I haven't seen the scale move too much, so I should be building muscle!
  • queenfresh
    queenfresh Posts: 32 Member
    Also, feel free to friend me!
  • roballesteros
    roballesteros Posts: 140
    Hello Team X,

    I have been buried under a pile of paper work at work...I worked until 10:30 PM last night...needless to say I did not workout yesterday. BUT to day is a completely different story...I started my day with a vengence! I ran 7 milee came home and did Chest, Arms and Tri then tonight I finished it off with YogaX. I am determined not to fall behind, I gotta get it all in even if it means double or tripple workouts! (I may be dead by Dec...but you people will come to my funeral I'm sure ;-))

    I have to say that Chest, Arms and Tri is NOT my favorite...I do not like push ups and this whole damn DVD is about push-ups! Geeeez, I think T. Horton is insane if he thinks I am going to do a one handed push-ups.... who does he think I am??? Demi Moore?? My arms were on fire after this work out and I am sure I will be feeling it tomorrow.

    Sassy - I am so glad you are back!

    Jay - I love the T.Horton graphic....that is exactly what I was thinking of him after the 100th set of push-ups (slight exaggeration) today!

    Mike - Sorry the Yankees lost...I watched the game...what the hell is wrong with A-Rod??

    Everyone else on TEAM X, YOU ROCK!!!

    It's the weekend people, BRING IT!

    Make it count!

    Ro
  • MrsBooker
    MrsBooker Posts: 17 Member
    Hello everyone,

    I really enjoy reading all the posts on here. Very inspiring and motivational.


    Drew and Jay, thanks for posting your 30 day pics! Your results are amazing so far.

    Thanks for all your input about calories and diet. I have been trying to find a balance on this. I upped my cals from 1200 to 1500, and have been eating back some of the workout cals from P90X, but trying to go by P90X suggestions for my macros is tough! I can never seem to eat enough protein, and am ALWAYS over on my cals.

    I also am rounding out week 2, and have not had a consistent 6 day stretch yet. I have not seen any noticeable changes in the scale, but I can do more unassisted pushups and pullups than I ever have in my life, so I guess I am getting stronger.

    I am going to try my best to push play every day for Week 3.

    Hope everyone has an awesome weekend!
  • Mike523
    Mike523 Posts: 393 Member
    Happy Saturday team!!!! Day 41 completed, Kenpo X!

    Had a few cocktails last night, and slept in the morning (the family all went out so the house is quiet...). Got up feeling good and rested, and banged out Kenpo X.

    How's everyone doing?? We need to keep this thread going strong!!! Welcome to the new people, and to everyone else, KEEP IT UP!

    BRING IT!!!!


    -Mike
  • drwstown76
    drwstown76 Posts: 185
    Ro... hahahaha@the demi moore comment! Truth is... you ARE like G I Jane! BooM! Keep at those push ups AND great job today!

    Mike... I totally agree man. We gotta keep this thing going! You are crusing it bro.... Its nice to have a rested feeling when you wake up in the morning!

    LETS HEAR FROM EVERYONE.... KEEP CHECKIN IN! WE NEED YA! :explode:

    Mrs Booker... Dont worry about that scale. Its misleading. You are blowing this thing out of the box! 2 weeks done... ALMOST THERE! BOOM!

    Queenfresh! Week 5 complete! POW!! You are slightly ahead of us... welcome to the group and thanks for paving the way.

    Just an update on me... They cancelled the weigh in this week. Im not sure how I feel about that. I think I lost another lb this week, i guess we will find out next week. Also, I didn't make my week 5 video yet bc I have been pretty sick. Voice is all messed up... Hopefully monday.

    Have a great weekend yall.... Go Eagles.... E.A.G.L.E.S. EAGLES!!!!
    Drew
  • MrsBooker
    MrsBooker Posts: 17 Member
    I forgot to add my 2 cents about almond milk. It is DELISH!! I highly recommend it. I use it for everything except things like scrambled eggs (whites of course) and casseroles. If you can get your hands on the unsweetened variety it is only 35-40 cals per cup (depends on which brand)! And for an extra treat the chocolate milk is pretty tasty too. :)
  • Mike523
    Mike523 Posts: 393 Member
    I forgot to add my 2 cents about almond milk. It is DELISH!! I highly recommend it. I use it for everything except things like scrambled eggs (whites of course) and casseroles. If you can get your hands on the unsweetened variety it is only 35-40 cals per cup (depends on which brand)! And for an extra treat the chocolate milk is pretty tasty too. :)

    Yep, I use the unsweetened one too. I mix my whey protein with it.
  • kriots
    kriots Posts: 375 Member
    lean is an easier version of the program, you usually do the reverse, lean then classic.

    to get leaner, the version is called doubles, and it adds a lot of extra cardio on top of the regular workouts (depending of the weeks, I think it is up to three extra workouts)

    thanks!
  • ricardorides
    ricardorides Posts: 10 Member
    Tomorrow I'll start my THIRD attempt at P90X, on both of the previous attempts I got sick about 30 days in. Have just got over the flu so I'm hoping that's me done with illness & can complete the programme by Christmas Day (will drop a week from the first part of the programme). Any support would be much appreciated!
  • jayb0ne
    jayb0ne Posts: 644 Member
    Why do I do it? Yet again I managed to miss Saturday's workout so I did Legs/Back today instead. I'll pick up Kenpo tomorrow. Pretty lame to be fair, maybe I just try and fit too much other stuff into my Saturdays...

    Anyway, legs back was good to get back onto. I got my pullups back :) Managed 17 unassisted over the workout and 5 in a row being my max consecutive. Everything else was about the same as where I left off. Increased the weight on my calf raises by 2.5kg in each hand but all other weights were the same. I'm finding that my forearms and wrists are really aching when just holding onto weights for squats etc.

    Hope you all had a good couple of days? Be back on tomorrow for the usual update, off to bed shortly. Early night for me, I'm wiped.

    Drew - Can't believe how much you're pushing on through a sick time! You're a workout machine!

    Jay
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