OMG this is sooo frustrating, there are carbs EVERYWHERE

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  • robin52077
    robin52077 Posts: 4,383 Member
    But he's not obese. He is 6'1" 190 lbs, that is teetering between healthy and overweight. Hence why I said to not have more than 1000 deficit.:wink:

    Wow, that is some messed up numbers to put 190 for 6'1 within an overweight category. Being 6'1 and currently at 188lb, I am skinny enough to hula hoop thru a cheerio! To each their own I guess...

    all I did was put 6'1" 190 into the BMI calculator...not my fault it said it's borderline overweight. Those calculators are stupid anyways...
  • jewelzz
    jewelzz Posts: 326 Member
    CARBS ARE GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! of course they have to be the right carbs and eating them first thing in the morning is best so you have all day to burn them:bigsmile:
  • ladyhawk00
    ladyhawk00 Posts: 2,457 Member
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  • PB67
    PB67 Posts: 376
    CARBS ARE GOOD FOR YOU!!!!!

    Truth
    of course they have to be the right carbs and eating them first thing in the morning is best so you have all day to burn them:bigsmile:

    Myth
  • rbryntes
    rbryntes Posts: 710 Member
    Try gluten free products as well..

    I'm sorry, I'm not sure what GF has to do with low carb? Gluten free does not necessarily mean low carb. It just means gluten free.
  • chocolateandvodka
    chocolateandvodka Posts: 1,850 Member
    what the fudge.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    CARBS ARE GOOD FOR YOU!!!!! of course they have to be the right carbs and eating them first thing in the morning is best so you have all day to burn them:bigsmile:

    It doesn't matter which time of the day you should eat carbs.
  • Rae6503
    Rae6503 Posts: 6,294 Member
    what the fudge.

    Fudge has a ton of carbs in it. Just sayin'
  • DizzieLittleLifter
    DizzieLittleLifter Posts: 1,020 Member
    Carbs are essential to the body. ESSENTIAL to some areas of the brain and red blood cells, as well as the primary source of energy for your muscles and the entire brain. I could go on and on about this giving way too much detail but I will spare you. The point is to stay away from refined carbs (bread, chips, refined pastas, cake etc ) and eat 100g (min) to 130g of healthy carbs (veggy's, some fruit and some whole grain). Make 1/2 your meals veggies. :flowerforyou:

    CHO is not an essential macronutrient to the body.

    Yes it is
  • DizzieLittleLifter
    DizzieLittleLifter Posts: 1,020 Member
    Carbs are essential to the body. ESSENTIAL to some areas of the brain and red blood cells, as well as the primary source of energy for your muscles and the entire brain. I could go on and on about this giving way too much detail but I will spare you. The point is to stay away from refined carbs (bread, chips, refined pastas, cake etc ) and eat 100g (min) to 130g of healthy carbs (veggy's, some fruit and some whole grain). Make 1/2 your meals veggies. :flowerforyou:

    CHO is not an essential macronutrient to the body.

    Yes it is.
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Carbs are essential to the body. ESSENTIAL to some areas of the brain and red blood cells, as well as the primary source of energy for your muscles and the entire brain. I could go on and on about this giving way too much detail but I will spare you. The point is to stay away from refined carbs (bread, chips, refined pastas, cake etc ) and eat 100g (min) to 130g of healthy carbs (veggy's, some fruit and some whole grain). Make 1/2 your meals veggies. :flowerforyou:

    CHO is not an essential macronutrient to the body.

    Yes it is.

    Sorry but you are incorrect. Let's quote Lyle McDonald shall we:
    Despite oft-heard claims to the contrary, there is no actual physiological requirement for dietary carbohydrate. Even the RDA handbook acknowledges this, right before recommending that a prudent diet should contain a lot of carbohydrates.

    An essential nutrient is defined as:

    1. Any nutrient that is required for survival.
    2. Can’t be made by the body.

    The second criterion is the reason that dietary carbohydrate is not an essential nutrient: the body is able to make as much glucose as the brain and the few other tissues need on a day-to-day basis from other sources. From the standpoint of survival, the minimum amount of carbohydrates that are required in a diet is zero grams per day.
  • Avalonis
    Avalonis Posts: 1,540 Member
    Seriously, I can't believe the mods haven't removed this obvious troll post yet.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    Seriously, I can't believe the mods haven't removed this obvious troll post yet.

    They seem to be a little more sporadic these days.
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,261 Member
    Personally i don't think you know enough about nutrition to worry about whether an egg has a trace amount of carbs in it, or the fact that you think carbs make you fat...............plus the fact you want to lose 1/4 of your total body weight without even worrying about body composition......try eating in a moderate deficit, about 20% and a balanced diet, go from there.
  • DizzieLittleLifter
    DizzieLittleLifter Posts: 1,020 Member
    Carbs are essential to the body. ESSENTIAL to some areas of the brain and red blood cells, as well as the primary source of energy for your muscles and the entire brain. I could go on and on about this giving way too much detail but I will spare you. The point is to stay away from refined carbs (bread, chips, refined pastas, cake etc ) and eat 100g (min) to 130g of healthy carbs (veggy's, some fruit and some whole grain). Make 1/2 your meals veggies. :flowerforyou:

    CHO is not an essential macronutrient to the body.

    Yes it is.

    Sorry but you are incorrect. Let's quote Lyle McDonald shall we:
    Despite oft-heard claims to the contrary, there is no actual physiological requirement for dietary carbohydrate. Even the RDA handbook acknowledges this, right before recommending that a prudent diet should contain a lot of carbohydrates.

    An essential nutrient is defined as:

    1. Any nutrient that is required for survival.
    2. Can’t be made by the body.

    The second criterion is the reason that dietary carbohydrate is not an essential nutrient: the body is able to make as much glucose as the brain and the few other tissues need on a day-to-day basis from other sources. From the standpoint of survival, the minimum amount of carbohydrates that are required in a diet is zero grams per day.

    You can quote who ever you want. Your wrong. I know what the technical term for an essential nutrient is. Doesn't change the fact that not only do the majority of the MICRO nutrients come from the MACRO CHO, but Glucose is essential to many areas of the body. When the body is FORCED to make glucose it does so by converting protein or fat. This takes protein away from the areas including the body's immune defenses. The body can not convert enough fat to glucose to prevent ketosis. But again some areas of the brian will not function on ketones. This is a really stupid argument. Is someone really going to spend their life eating nothing but CHO free protein?
  • joejccva71
    joejccva71 Posts: 2,985 Member
    Carbs are essential to the body. ESSENTIAL to some areas of the brain and red blood cells, as well as the primary source of energy for your muscles and the entire brain. I could go on and on about this giving way too much detail but I will spare you. The point is to stay away from refined carbs (bread, chips, refined pastas, cake etc ) and eat 100g (min) to 130g of healthy carbs (veggy's, some fruit and some whole grain). Make 1/2 your meals veggies. :flowerforyou:

    CHO is not an essential macronutrient to the body.

    Yes it is.

    Sorry but you are incorrect. Let's quote Lyle McDonald shall we:
    Despite oft-heard claims to the contrary, there is no actual physiological requirement for dietary carbohydrate. Even the RDA handbook acknowledges this, right before recommending that a prudent diet should contain a lot of carbohydrates.

    An essential nutrient is defined as:

    1. Any nutrient that is required for survival.
    2. Can’t be made by the body.

    The second criterion is the reason that dietary carbohydrate is not an essential nutrient: the body is able to make as much glucose as the brain and the few other tissues need on a day-to-day basis from other sources. From the standpoint of survival, the minimum amount of carbohydrates that are required in a diet is zero grams per day.

    You can quote who ever you want. Your wrong. I know what the technical term for an essential nutrient is. Doesn't change the fact that not only do the majority of the MICRO nutrients come from the MACRO CHO, but Glucose is essential to many areas of the body. When the body is FORCED to make glucose it does so by converting protein or fat. This takes protein away from the areas including the body's immune defenses. The body can not convert enough fat to glucose to prevent ketosis. But again some areas of the brian will not function on ketones. This is a really stupid argument. Is someone really going to spend their life eating nothing but CHO free protein?

    You said carbs are essential. I said they aren't. I provided proof from Lyle who is pretty much a genius in the nutrition and fitness world.

    What point are you still trying to argue?

    Carbs are NOT essential to survive. Period. Your body makes glucose from other sources like lactate, pyruvate (produced from glucose metabolism), glycerol (from fat metabolism) and some amino acids.
  • ilovedeadlifts
    ilovedeadlifts Posts: 2,923 Member
    looks like i missed a good thread hahah
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,261 Member
    The body can make it's own glucose in the absence of dietary carbs. It a very basic suvival adaption in humans.
  • Elizabeth_C34
    Elizabeth_C34 Posts: 6,376 Member
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  • Gigi_licious
    Gigi_licious Posts: 1,185 Member
    what the fudge.

    Mmmmm....fudge!!!
  • Gigi_licious
    Gigi_licious Posts: 1,185 Member
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    Oh look! A kitty!!!! :love:
  • UsedToBeHusky
    UsedToBeHusky Posts: 15,228 Member
    But he's not obese. He is 6'1" 190 lbs, that is teetering between healthy and overweight. Hence why I said to not have more than 1000 deficit.:wink:

    Wow, that is some messed up numbers to put 190 for 6'1 within an overweight category. Being 6'1 and currently at 188lb, I am skinny enough to hula hoop thru a cheerio! To each their own I guess...

    My bf is extremely high. I don't have genetics like you do.

    150 lbs is the very lowest for you to still be healthy. Regardless of your body fat. You should really be focusing on building muscle if your body fat percentage is to high. Your body will still burn through the fat that you have to help make the muscle. You can't build new muscle in a calorie deficit so I think you might be going about this the wrong way.
  • Acg67
    Acg67 Posts: 12,142 Member
    keto diets have no metabolic advantage...
  • mdmarcha
    mdmarcha Posts: 76
    But he's not obese. He is 6'1" 190 lbs, that is teetering between healthy and overweight. Hence why I said to not have more than 1000 deficit.:wink:

    Wow, that is some messed up numbers to put 190 for 6'1 within an overweight category. Being 6'1 and currently at 188lb, I am skinny enough to hula hoop thru a cheerio! To each their own I guess...

    This makes some since to me. I do lift weights to keep muscle. So I should just eat more? Do you mean I should eat at what my bodymedia tells me I burn?
    My bf is extremely high. I don't have genetics like you do.

    150 lbs is the very lowest for you to still be healthy. Regardless of your body fat. You should really be focusing on building muscle if your body fat percentage is to high. Your body will still burn through the fat that you have to help make the muscle. You can't build new muscle in a calorie deficit so I think you might be going about this the wrong way.
  • Steven
    Steven Posts: 593 MFP Moderator
    Posters,

    We had a bit of a trolling issue this morning, and a lot of the debate in this thread seems to have been provoked by someone who was essentially working hard to stir debate for its own sake. If you'd like to begin another legit debate on the nature of carbs, please start another thread. I'm going to lock this one down, since it's been pretty badly polluted.

    Thanks,
    Steven
    MyFitnessPal Staff
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