Limiting potatoes in school lunches

Potatoes are a good source of vitamins and minerals, and while I do think it is a good idea to limit the fried potato, I think maybe the focus should be more on changing the preperation of it.

Gosh, I didn't realize so many people wouldn't read the article.

Excerpt:

Potatoes do contain important nutrients—vitamin C, potassium, and vitamin B6, to name a few. But the potato is not the only source of these nutrients, nor is it the best: Cup for cup, for example, broccoli has nearly nine times as much vitamin C as a potato, and white beans have about double the potassium. Yet a cup of potatoes has a similar effect on blood sugar as a can of Coca Cola or a handful of jelly beans. (10) That’s a high metabolic price to pay for nutrients that children can easily get from other sources.

Gosh, actually, I did read the article. I also live in an area where the economy is dependent on the potato crop. I am just trying to say everything in moderation! That is all. Fried=bad, baked=good... You can get lots of vitamins and minerals from grazing on your lawn too, but it does not meen that is the answer to the obesity problem. Just sayin...

I don't understand your posts if you read the article, which is about "limiting" potatoes, not "eliminating" them. That is is what moderation means.

LOL, my point exactly...

Oh sorry. I thought you disagreed with the article. I must have misunderstood.

Funny, you purposely omitted:

3. to mark out or describe as evil or culpable

??? I only omitted the part referring specifically to mathematics as it didn't seem to apply. I still don't see anything about evil. Are you seriously arguing that "limit" and "demonize" mean the same thing? Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?

lim·it  /ˈlɪmɪt/ Show Spelled[lim-it] Show IPAnoun
1.thefinal,utmost,orfurthestboundaryorpointastoextent,amount,continuance,procedure,etc.:thelimitofhisexperience;thelimitofvision.
2.aboundaryorbound,asofacountry,area,ordistrict.
3.Mathematics.
a.anumbersuchthatthevalueofagivenfunctionremainsarbitrarilyclosetothisnumberwhentheindependent variableissufficientlyclosetoaspecifiedpointorissufficientlylarge.Thelimitof1/xiszeroasxapproachesinfinity;thelimitof(x−1)2iszeroasxapproaches1.
b.anumbersuchthattheabsolute valueofthedifferencebetweentermsofagivensequenceandthenumberapproacheszeroastheindexofthetermsincreasestoinfinity.
c.oneoftwonumbersaffixedtotheintegrationsymbolforadefiniteintegral,indicatingtheintervalorregionoverwhichtheintegrationistakingplaceandsubstitutedinaprimitive,ifoneexists,toevaluatetheintegral.
4.limits,thepremisesorregionenclosedwithinboundaries:Wefoundthemonschoollimitsafterhours.5.Games.themaximumsumbywhichabetmayberaisedatanyonetime.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/limit

Rediculious, but not surprised. Now starchy vegetables are evil lol.

??? The article did not say starchy vegetables were evil.

By limiting starchy vegetables at lunch, and setting new requirements for dark green and orange vegetables, the IOM was trying to steer children’s diets in a healthier direction: “The committee anticipates that…with repeated exposures and high-quality food preparation, students will learn to value the vegetable items offered.” (2, p. 170) In other words, over time, kids will get used to eating broccoli, carrots, and other colorful vegetables—and may even start to like them.

Basically their saying they're calorie dense and implying weight gain and poor health and should be replaced. Much like 30 years ago, when fat was evil and needed to be replaced. For any of this article to make any sense health wise, there would need to be a complete absence of all refined starch to begin with in order to start picking on natural ingredients like root vegetables that have a plethera of healthy micronutirents in them..........get what I mean now.

I get where you are going I think, but I don't understand the "if we aren't going to fix everything, let's not make any improvements" attitude.

I agree that cutting gym class is bad. I agree that soda machines in schoool are bad. But none of that changes the fact that replacing potatoes, something served daily in many schools, with lower GI/GL veggies can be a healthy improvement.

Like I said, all starchy carbs including all refined carbs that are now sewved would need to be elimanted before your theory of GI to make any sense.......which it doesn't imo. GL is a different story and basically shows that the GI scale is meaningless, so I don't know why you referred to both. How do they reduce potato's.....if their an option, people will continue to use them and their contention is if they only have veg as a choice they will learn to love them and eat them..lol...are they serious. To me that sounds like elimanating them so the choice isn't there to begin for their theory of liking veg to hold true. They don't know what their talking about and should be looking to nutriently void or defcient foods first and formost and leave healthy options alone.

I think I should be flattered, but I didn't write that article so it's not my theory. The UDSA proposal is to limit how many serviings of potatoes can be offered each week in school and replace those offerings with lower GI foods.

I still say it sounds like a good idea. Not a cure to all school problems, but a step in the right direction.

Funny, you purposely omitted:

3. to mark out or describe as evil or culpable

??? I only omitted the part referring specifically to mathematics as it didn't seem to apply. I still don't see anything about evil. Are you seriously arguing that "limit" and "demonize" mean the same thing? Or are you just arguing for the sake of arguing?

lim·it  /ˈlɪmɪt/ Show Spelled[lim-it] Show IPAnoun
1.thefinal,utmost,orfurthestboundaryorpointastoextent,amount,continuance,procedure,etc.:thelimitofhisexperience;thelimitofvision.
2.aboundaryorbound,asofacountry,area,ordistrict.
3.Mathematics.
a.anumbersuchthatthevalueofagivenfunctionremainsarbitrarilyclosetothisnumberwhentheindependent variableissufficientlyclosetoaspecifiedpointorissufficientlylarge.Thelimitof1/xiszeroasxapproachesinfinity;thelimitof(x−1)2iszeroasxapproaches1.
b.anumbersuchthattheabsolute valueofthedifferencebetweentermsofagivensequenceandthenumberapproacheszeroastheindexofthetermsincreasestoinfinity.
c.oneoftwonumbersaffixedtotheintegrationsymbolforadefiniteintegral,indicatingtheintervalorregionoverwhichtheintegrationistakingplaceandsubstitutedinaprimitive,ifoneexists,toevaluatetheintegral.
4.limits,thepremisesorregionenclosedwithinboundaries:Wefoundthemonschoollimitsafterhours.5.Games.themaximumsumbywhichabetmayberaisedatanyonetime.

http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/limit

1) They were referring to "demonize" and not "limit", 2) you have to scroll down the page, but the third definition is definitely there, and 3) it seems to me that YOU are the one arguing for the sake of arguing, as you've attacked several posters in this thread, including assuming they didn't read the article simply because they didn't agree with it.

Well of course demonize would refer to evil. That was my point (duh!). Limiting potatoes does not = demonizing them.