Child-Free? Negativity from others?

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  • ckroys
    ckroys Posts: 219 Member
    I always said I didn't want kids (ok - always as in when I was in high school). Having my sister and her baby boy live with us made me the live-in babysitter, and I was just a preteen/teen who didn't want to be raising my nephew. (I do love my nephew, by the way - more like a brother since I was so young when he was born.)But when I met my husband, that changed. We talked about a family, and then we had an unexpected surprise, it was scary, but we were happy. We planned our second. I realized for me it wasn't that I never wanted to have kids. I just wasn't ready yet.

    That being said - being a parent is just not right for everyone. Look at all the child abuse out there. The majority of those people didn't want kids either - and should have given them up for adoption (I'm not an abortion fan, but to each their own opinion.) There are plenty of people out there who do want kids and can't have them for whatever reason that would love to adopt those children.

    I don't think it's selfish to want kids or to not want kids. It's great that you know yourself well enough to know you don't want children. And for those that know that they want them, that's great, too. But being a parent is a huge responsibiltiy, and to take it lightly or have kids just because you're "suppose" to is absurd.

    Live life your way, and don't worry what others think.
  • SuperCork
    SuperCork Posts: 192 Member
    Great responses from all! I personally have waffled from definitely do NOT want to maybe if I'm with the right person and we both want to, etc. As a result of my last relationship where my ex talked about our having kids as being a foregone conclusion and my not constantly pointing out that I am not positive I want that, I really had to sit myself down and think things over and...while I love children (most of the time) and do think having half my DNA make up another person would be a mindeff in an amazing way, I just don't think I really want to be a PARENT: I don't want that responsibility, I don't want to (rightfully so) put someone else first for at least 18 years, I don't want to worry about ruining them, or passing on my brain chemistry (simple things in life have been a real challenge at different times), etc. But mostly, when I give thought to the two different lives this is what I come up with: sure, without kids I might occassionally pine and feel sad but that's what biology and evolution have conspired to make me feel, it's part of the survival of our species (though evolution has not caught up to human civilization, but that's a whooooole other topic) but I would be able to do the things that set my soul on fire. With kids, I would LOVE them and be happy with them but there would ALWAYS be something missing that wouldn't be without kids.

    As far as people's reactions and judgements, it's ****ty but it's not entirely their fault: most people feel an overwhelming urge to procreat because of the things I've mentioned above, and that's okay. Because of a number of reasons, people like you and I don't feel the same, and that's okay too. I am also an atheist and get some flack about that but basically I feel that the more threatened someone is by a lifestyle that is different than their own, the LESS secure they are in their own lives--what a pity. That doesn't excuse ignorance and nosiness, so I will include a link to an article that addresses this BRILLIANTLY: enjoy!

    http://galadarling.com/article/i-dont-want-children-am-i-a-freak-why-wont-everyone-leave-me-alone
  • NiciS72
    NiciS72 Posts: 1,043 Member
    Personally I love children. I don't have any and will be happy if I'm blessed with one or more. I have waited (maybe too long) until I was ready. I had my urge when I was 16, which is WAY TOO early! I always thought I'd have one by 28, but that didn't happen. I haven't been in the right spot until most recently. So what happens, happens. If not naturally, then maybe adoption/foster.

    That said, I applaud you for your decision. There are WAY TOO MANY folks out there having children because they think they should, are told they should, or are pressured into it. I see a lot of parents that really don't want them, but what can you do when you have a child you don't want? You can't just give them away like an unwanted puppy! I'd tell people that ask what about if you change your mind that there are other ways to have a child i.e. adoption and fostering and you'll do that. Or, you could just say it's none of their damn business. That's pretty much what I say when people get in my face about it.
  • _SusieQ_
    _SusieQ_ Posts: 2,964 Member
    I preach to my two youngest that there is no "rule book" that states you have to get married, or that you have to have children in life to be happy and successful!

    My oldest on the other hand seems to think nothing of going and being fruitful and multiply ( he is 22 and has three babys from three different baby mommas) I love my grand daughters they are awesome and bring me a lot of joy!

    I often get judged because if I knew now, what I didn't understand 22 years ago and 9 months, I would of opted for sticking with the four legged babies!

    I love my children deeply and would do anything with in reason for them, but if I had a redo I would of opted for a childless life! I am sure there are a few others out there who feel the same way I do, but are afraid to admit due to the harsh judgement from others! People shouldn't be so quick to judge. Sometimes if people could walk in someone elses shoes they would understand, this applies to several things!

    You are the only one that can answer what you want in life. You should not be judged for it.

    If it's easier after you get sterilized, just tell people you simply can't have children. They don't need to know it was your choice!

    Best wishes~

    I seriously love honesty like this! :flowerforyou: My grandmother had 5 kids. I remember one time her telling me, I love my kids, every one. But if birth control had been as easy to come by then as it is now, I would have stopped at 2! Granny rocked!
  • withchaco
    withchaco Posts: 1,026 Member
    I'm pro-life but I have seriously considered (and am still considering) going child free for life. For me, it's not the process of pregnancy or childbirth... It's the whole thing of raising your child and making sure he/she becomes a decent human being. That **** is NOT easy, and can go horribly, horribly wrong, as we all know.

    It's definitely a personal decision.
  • MB_Positif
    MB_Positif Posts: 8,897 Member
    haha, I just saw your most recent post in the thread...the experience of pregnancy was realtively horrific for me. that said, I was always wishy washy about whether or not I wanted children, but eventually decided that I did. now I have one son, 5 years old and he's awesome. i would like to have more, but consider adoption because of how difficult my pregnancy was. but...in response to your first post, a absolutely have a friend who insisted she was never having children who actually did change her mind when she was in her early 30's. So...I don't know how old you are, but might you consider waiting at least until you are out of prime child bearing years just in case you do change your mind?
  • Trechechus
    Trechechus Posts: 2,819 Member
    Yeah. I'm pretty sure I do. not. want. kids either. People do react to it when I tell them, but mostly it's like "Really!?" and not something that's really insulting. I think it's unexpected, especially in women. Not sure why.

    I'd much rather have a dog. :)
  • live2dream
    live2dream Posts: 614 Member
    I'm child-free and I plan to adopt older children some day, once I have established a nice career for myself.

    Where I live, it's pretty unheard of to be my age (27) and not only never been married but have no children. I can't wait to move somewhere that waiting until your mid to late thirties for kids is the norm.

    I never thought that I wanted pregnancy, but lately I've thought that I may be ready for that step in about 10 years, even though I mostly want to adopt older kids, probably in my 40's or 50's. Time will tell, and there is no rush, especially since I've never really wanted pregnancy, so if it doesn't happen for me, I won't be sad.

    I'm ridiculously pro-choice about children. Have them or don't, but do it on YOUR TERMS only.

    ^^^ Same here. May adopt someday, but we'll see.

    I'm perfectly happy being child-free at the moment- my husband and I travel around the world, do whatever we feel like doing when we feel like it.... and people would LOVE for me to give that up to have a child. Why? Not like they would help me take care of it. I don't have family to watch the kids like some do. I can't just drop the kids off at the grandparents when I feel like going out. Not an option. So yeah, we've thought long and hard about it and still are.

    I always get the 'When are you having kids?'. I just say maybe never. That shuts them up. Although my friends grandma who I haven't seen in years - first thing she said to me is - 'You don't have kids yet? What's wrong with you?' That kind of blew me away, but I didn't want to get into it with her since I was at her granddaughters' funeral who had a ****ty life because her parents were drug addicts who eventually got her on drugs too and she ended up committing suicide. And she asks what's wrong with me? Um I just walked away. I don't get the mentality that 'everyone' must have kids- even poor people and drug addicts. I'm not in that category, but I sure believe I have a choice.
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    I have always known I did not want children. In fact, I'm looking into getting sterilized. But when I tell some people about not wanting kids or wanting sterilization sometimes they look at me like I'm crazy or just act like it's the most absurd thing they ever heard. What really makes me mad is when people are condescending and say "oh you'll change your mind" or ask what I will do if I happen to get pregnant and then that makes me have to go into a discussion about abortion which makes them look at me like I'm not only crazy, but a demon.

    I was just wondering if anyone else gets the same responses when you tell them you want to be be child-free.

    Also, if you do have children, why did you decide to? People often think that people who choose not to have kids are selfish, but personally I see it the other way around. Why bring another person into this world for your own benefit? There are lots of children waiting to be adopted already.

    Have children. 3. Greatest gifts in my life. Couldn't imagine my life without them.

    However, I see nothing wrong with your logic. If you feel like you don't want children, you shouldn't have children. Good for you. To hell with those that don't agree with you. They should mind their own business anyways.
  • wifeygonzo
    wifeygonzo Posts: 287 Member
    My hubby and I don't have kids either...well we have three 4-legged ones...lol! For us, if it happens then great, but otherwise we aren't trying to having kids our lives are full as is.

    Same here, my husband and I have been married for almost 10 years, no kids but we have two dogs. The dogs keep us plenty busy. We have the same thought, "if it happens great, but we're not trying". We are perfectly happy with our life the way it is. For some reason recently we've been getting a lot of grief from friends to "just do it, you'll be great parents, you'll resent each other if you don't have kids, you can't wait forever, etc". Bottom line is, its your life and nobody else is going to live it for you, so do what you know is best for you.
  • cabaray
    cabaray Posts: 971 Member
    About the pregnancy thing, I enjoyed both times I was pregnant. I never had morning sickness and had tons of energy until around 8 months. There was a little hiccup in the birth of my first (she was over 9lbs 2 weeks early), but I really looked forward to being pregnant again. I've known others that were miserable the entire time they were pregnant. Just the luck of the draw I guess. I certainly didn't want kids just to experience pregnancy, I can't even rationalize that kind of thinking.
  • Tiggerrick
    Tiggerrick Posts: 1,078 Member
    Being a parent is not for everyone. It's perfectly OK. Pregnancy is only 9 months, parenting is for your entire life. It's a comitment, not a fleeting whim.

    I am an unwilling father of one. If I could go back in time, I don't know that I would or would not prevent having him. I mean, I do love my son (even though he frustrates the sht out of me) but knowing what I know now, maybe I would have had a vasectomy at 18.

    Why is it selfish to NOT want to be a parent?
  • Uk_Yogini
    Uk_Yogini Posts: 167
    Having kids I feel is a very personal choice. I am kid free and very happy with my life as it is. I never had a desire to have any and certainly don't feel like I missed out on anything.
  • ItsCasey
    ItsCasey Posts: 4,021 Member
    There's nothing wrong or selfish about not wanting to have children.

    There's also nothing wrong or selfish about wanting to have your own biological children rather than adopting.

    This is not a black-or-white, right-or-wrong issue.
  • slimkitty
    slimkitty Posts: 418
    I have two children and cannot imagine my life without them. I was one to always say I didn't want any kids. Then one day in my thirties I just got this urge to be pregnant and have a baby. It was so strong and I couldn't think about anything else. I had a baby girl and a couple of years later I had baby boy. Then all of a sudden the urge to be pregnant and have more babies was just gone and I know that I am happy with my two kids and don't want any more. I have no explanation of what changed my mind. It just happened
  • loseit4ever
    loseit4ever Posts: 187 Member
    I have three children and always knew I wanted kids, but I have to say...it is a HUGE responsibility that should be thought through very carefully because it's not easy. I love my children to death, but my husband and I often joke about the good old days when we had money, could do whatever we wanted, and didn't have to worry every minute of our lives about if we are being good parents.

    I think it is extremely smart of you to really consider your feelings of not wanting to. It's nobody else's business anyway. I hate that people always pressure others into doing what they think they should do. Children should never be brought into the world just because someone feels they should.

    Having kids changes your life forever, and even though it is very rewarding, it is the biggest challenge of my life! You question yourself and your decisions constantly and you just pray that you raise healthy, happy and well-adjusted kids. I commend you for not just jumping into it because of pressure. There would be nothing worse than having them because of the pressure of others and then being resentful and unhappy...the rest of your life is a long time to go through that!
  • bethdris
    bethdris Posts: 1,090 Member
    I was child free (not couting a step son who didn't live with us and only came to visit from time to time) for the first 9 years of our marriage. Some of it was by choice, (for the first year) and then we decided we wanted a family. My true dream was to be a mother. I know for some, thats NO where on their radar, and thats fine. I don't belittle people for wanting/not wanting children. For some they are very career oriented, and know they don't have the time nor desire to be a parent. Kudos to those who REALIZE this BEFORE having the kids!

    Anyway long story short we had a miscarriage and then coudn't get pregnant. We went through the mill with drs, etc and nothing helped. We gave up on having our own biological children together, and decided we will do foster care, and hopefully would be blessed to adopt some day. Well, the powers that be gave us a big life change...we went from 0 to 2 , kids ages 2 and 4 weeks literally over night (from the foster agency), 3 mos later I got pg(total miracle), and gave birth to healthy baby boy. That same summer we were able to adopt our 2 foster sons. Our little tribe are now 4.5 yrs old, 2.5yrs old and 1.5 yrs old.

    The first year was HARD to say the least, but now that everyone is mobile and almost all talking, its getting a ittle easier! I wouldn't change the way our family came about for anything!! We are blessed!!!
  • conidiring
    conidiring Posts: 230 Member
    Married for 19 years, no kids. Neither my husband or I wanted/had the urge for them. People do tell us all the time that we'd make great parents, but no one has badgered us. My family knew from high school that I didn't want kids (didn't want to get married either!). If it ever did happen (more and more unlikely, as we're 47 now), we'd accept it and move on. It's hard to meet new people. The first question is always, so do you have kids? When we say no the conversation drops and they move on to others that they have children in common with. So be it...there is more to live than your children! I do feel bad for my mom and my sister,, she's always wanted grandchildren and my sister wanted kids as much as I didn't but couldn't have them. My brother has finally had a baby (well of course he didn't, his wife did!) so now mom is feeling a bit better. I just never had the desire. Love kids, just like to give them back to their parents after a few hours! I have my fur babies and that's plenty for me!!!
  • chocolateandvodka
    chocolateandvodka Posts: 1,850 Member
    Wow. Definitely sending you a friend request. It's like i wrote that.

    I take contraception extremely seriously because i DO NOT want a child and never have. I have never once had an ounce of maternal instinct and when people give me the "oh you'll change your mind someday" speech i want to punch a kitten.

    Where i live, sterilization is not an option unless there is medical justification or you have at least one living child. I have looked into it and it angers me that i do not have the option to make this choice.

    I've received a lot of negativity for this decision, but in my opinion, the worst thing i could do to a child is bring one into the world when i am neither ready nor willing to be a parent.
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    A few years ago, someone asked me if I had kids, and I said no and that I don't want any.

    "Oh, you'll change your mind once you hit 30."

    "I'm 37."

    I just don't have a biological clock. I have no maternal instincts. I think babies are cute and amazing, but I feel the same way about those little tiny cassette tapes for answering machines.
  • april_beth
    april_beth Posts: 616 Member
    Yea I'm not sure I get the whole "experience of pregnancy" bit either.

    I hate going to get an annual exam, I can't imagine a watermelon coming out of there. I have had friends who have had kids and I ask them how delivery was and they're usually honest, but I wasn't aware that they have to cut your genitals sometimes so the baby can come out and they have to sew it back up, or they get torn in the process. That is just horrifying!

    wait, im going to assume that this is not the total reason why you dont want children...this is just the extra right? cause i mean christ, ill never forget the pain and **** but it wasnt like i wouldnt have another one cause of it...but for the record, im effin DONE!! :) and i didnt have to get cut at all...not even the tiniest bit and i never tore so not everyone goes through that kind of torture - that normally you dont feel anyways cause youre all doped up and numb :)

    now ill take the doped up part any time, any day as long as i didnt have to come home with a newborn...:)
  • FairyMiss
    FairyMiss Posts: 1,812 Member
    If people ask you why you don't have kids, it is none of their business, so burst into tears and tell them that you can't. That'll shut them up. :wink:
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    or better yet , if you have pets and they ask about kids, say oh i do , and whip out pics of the furbabies. not only will they shut up they just might run :laugh: :laugh:
  • Iamfit4life
    Iamfit4life Posts: 3,095 Member
    I can't stand people who get judged for not having children, or wanting them.

    People can do whatever they'd like in that regard. Somebody who doesn't think they want to be a parent... SHOULDN'T BE.
  • Qarol
    Qarol Posts: 6,171 Member
    The only person who really made a minor fuss over my husband and my decision not to have kids was his mother. But that was once, and I set her straight. I've never really had anyone accuse me of being selfish, although I have heard of others having that experience. I find that sad. Some of my friends have been surprised by my decision, but only momentarily. I think I just have a face that says don't *kitten* with me.
  • april_beth
    april_beth Posts: 616 Member
    I was child free (not couting a step son who didn't live with us and only came to visit from time to time) for the first 9 years of our marriage. Some of it was by choice, (for the first year) and then we decided we wanted a family. My true dream was to be a mother. I know for some, thats NO where on their radar, and thats fine. I don't belittle people for wanting/not wanting children. For some they are very career oriented, and know they don't have the time nor desire to be a parent. Kudos to those who REALIZE this BEFORE having the kids!

    Anyway long story short we had a miscarriage and then coudn't get pregnant. We went through the mill with drs, etc and nothing helped. We gave up on having our own biological children together, and decided we will do foster care, and hopefully would be blessed to adopt some day. Well, the powers that be gave us a big life change...we went from 0 to 2 , kids ages 2 and 4 weeks literally over night (from the foster agency), 3 mos later I got pg(total miracle), and gave birth to healthy baby boy. That same summer we were able to adopt our 2 foster sons. Our little tribe are now 4.5 yrs old, 2.5yrs old and 1.5 yrs old.

    The first year was HARD to say the least, but now that everyone is mobile and almost all talking, its getting a ittle easier! I wouldn't change the way our family came about for anything!! We are blessed!!!

    i hear this story quite often and i believe that you got pregnant because the powers to be saw how unselfish you were and took in one that needed you; so now here is your thank you gift, finally getting pregnant :) you were meant to adopt that child for a reason, he/she was meant to have YOU...i love this.
  • vim_n_vigor
    vim_n_vigor Posts: 4,089 Member
    It sounds like sterilization is for you, especially if you are ready to jump into an abortion.
  • Sh1tsRainbows
    Sh1tsRainbows Posts: 1,227 Member
    I think its your choice and you probably get the negativity cause its not the "norm"...but thats your decision. CONGRATS on making that choice and dont let anyone change your mind!!!

    As for the pregnancy thing..i have 2 kids and HATED being pregnant.

    and to choose not to have kids is much better then the a**hats that have 4, 5, 6 kids and cant afford them...get food stamps, eat steak
    ON MY DOLLAR
  • Iamfit4life
    Iamfit4life Posts: 3,095 Member
    The only person who really made a minor fuss over my husband and my decision not to have kids was his mother. But that was once, and I set her straight. I've never really had anyone accuse me of being selfish, although I have heard of others having that experience. I find that sad. Some of my friends have been surprised by my decision, but only momentarily. I think I just have a face that says don't *kitten* with me.
    I'm not sure how you would be considered selfish for not wanting to procreate.
    IMO it's more selfish to have a child due to pressue from outsiders and give that child a so so existence because you never wanted kids.

    But that's just my opinon.
    I hate people getting judged on this.
  • redraidergirl2009
    redraidergirl2009 Posts: 2,560 Member

    Also, if you do have children, why did you decide to? People often think that people who choose not to have kids are selfish, but personally I see it the other way around. Why bring another person into this world for your own benefit? There are lots of children waiting to be adopted already.

    I think I just always knew I wanted kids. when I was a teenager, my older sisters were having kids and that sealed it for me. I just wanted to be a mom. As for my childless -by -choice friends, I don't consider them selfish at all. I think it would be much more selfish to have a child just to conform to society's idea of the norm.

    When you mention about the sterilization, I'm curious if you've had problems finding a doctor to do it. I know several friends who wanted to have their tubes tied following a c-section and if they're under 30 or only have one child, the doctor will often turn them down, in case they change their minds later. It surprises me but this has happened to more than one of my friends.

    I talked to my doctor about it and she didn't raise any concern, however I was asking about the essure procedure which doesn't require surgery, it can be done there in the office. They insert two coils that block off your fallopian tubes. It's cheaper and there's not really any down time. I have yet to check if my insurance covers it though.
  • AngelikaLumiere
    AngelikaLumiere Posts: 862 Member
    If people ask you why you don't have kids, it is none of their business, so burst into tears and tell them that you can't. That'll shut them up. :wink:

    Don't do this, cancer took my chance of motherhood away, so I don't think it is something you should joke about. It also wouldn't work, because people are always tell me to adopt. My best friend knew in high school she didn't want to be a mother and she has been very happy in her life and grateful that she never did have kids, because her marriage failed, due to his chemical dependencies. She just tells people in a matter of fact way, I don't think I would be a good mother. And she is so firm in her tone of voice no one argues with her.
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