I don't care ENOUGH.
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Quote all the stats you want. Until you comment on our OWN blood/urine work, you don't have much to say. I've gotten my blood/urine work done last year or so.
Congrats on your fancy urine.
Congrats on completely ignoring the point and ending what what litle chance a honest discourse there was. You're snarky remarks doesn't invalidate the content of my post or content. You need to READ what I post. If you are fat but healthy, so be it. If you are fat/skinny and unhealthy, then you are unhealghty and need to do something about it. If you dont't know if you are unhealthy, then you don't have much to say on the matter, right?0 -
As for 'feeling healthier', I have severe clinical depression.
Don't you think there might be a link between your weight and your depression? Call me crazy, but I bet your depression would vanish if you got to your goal weight.0 -
Quote all the stats you want. Until you comment on our OWN blood/urine work, you don't have much to say. I've gotten my blood/urine work done last year or so.
Congrats on your fancy urine.
Congrats on completely ignoring the point and ending what what litle chance a honest discourse there was. You're snarky remarks doesn't invalidate the content of my post or content. You need to READ what I post. If you are fat but healthy, so be it. If you are fat/skinny and unhealthy, then you are unhealghty and need to do something about it. If you dont't know if you are unhealthy, then you don't have much to say on the matter, right?
If you are unhealthy, you don't NEED to do anything about it. It is a personal choice.
FYI I'm incredibly unhealthy, which has nothing to do with anything. Especially because my main health issue is a MENTAL illness, and as far as I know my mental illnesses are not caused by my neurotransmitters eating too many cheetos.
My point is that health isn't anyone else's business. Which you don't seem to get because you're too worried about my urine.0 -
As for 'feeling healthier', I have severe clinical depression.
Don't you think there might be a link between your weight and your depression? Call me crazy, but I bet your depression would vanish if you got to your goal weight.
I had severe depression when I was at my goal weight.
Neurotransmitters are not affected by weight.
I also have generalized anxiety and PTSD. When I get to my goal weight, will that make time travel possible so I can go back and change the severe abuse I went through, too?0 -
Quote all the stats you want. Until you comment on our OWN blood/urine work, you don't have much to say. I've gotten my blood/urine work done last year or so.
Congrats on your fancy urine.
Congrats on completely ignoring the point and ending what what litle chance a honest discourse there was. You're snarky remarks doesn't invalidate the content of my post or content. You need to READ what I post. If you are fat but healthy, so be it. If you are fat/skinny and unhealthy, then you are unhealghty and need to do something about it. If you dont't know if you are unhealthy, then you don't have much to say on the matter, right?
If you are unhealthy, you don't NEED to do anything about it. It is a personal choice.
FYI I'm incredibly unhealthy, which has nothing to do with anything. Especially because my main health issue is a MENTAL illness, and as far as I know my mental illnesses are not caused by my neurotransmitters eating too many cheetos.
My point is that health isn't anyone else's business. Which you don't seem to get because you're too worried about my urine.
How do you know your bad health is only mental and not physical also? You haven't gotten your blood/urine work done. My health is my family's business. You aren't on an island by yourself. (as pointed out).0 -
Done with this thread, because in the words of OP's brother who is now my new spirit animal... "I don't care enough"0
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Done with this thread, because in the words of OP's brother who is now my new spirit animal... "I don't care enough"
No one knows how much/little you "care" about yoruself. At least you are HERE on this site.
If broad generalized leaps of assumption were an Olympic event, you'd place 1st.0 -
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Trust me, there's absolutely notthing to hate on in regards to you or your opinion. You fatter yourself.
Keep hiding behind that false sense of victimization in THIS thread.0 -
Trust me, there's absolutely notthing to hate on in regards to you or your opinion. You fatter yourself.
Keep hiding behind that false sense of victimization in THIS thread.
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bamp! loving this thread!0
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Someone wants to go there don't they?
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ANYWHO. As a person who occasionally plays League of Legends with a gamer boyfriend who is also losing weight, I can say that not ALL gamers are possessed by games. Once he cares enough, other things will become more important. I game, but I also get so caught up in schoolwork and life that I don't get much time to game AND don't focus on my eating much. My boyfriend games all the time, and he likes to workout, but he does get lazy from time to time and has to be reminded about what IS healthy and what isn't. He's a foodie, like me, and we love food. It's true. But I'm better at self control lol. It's just a matter of when enough will be enough, or even if it WILL be enough. Some people are okay with themselves, and others simply dont get any sort of message that it's time. So OP, I hope you don't worry too much. My sister eats like crap and she's tiny, but I still freak out on her for never eating properly. Or excercising. Or etc. etc. etc.. It all adds up on the inside, even if it doesn't on the outside. Hopefully he comes to a point where he will do something for himself. Like you said, he DOES care. Even if it's just a little.
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I have friends and family just like your brother... heck, I was just like your brother! I used to have some of the most interesting reasons to STAY fat... "You've never seen a fat person with osteoporosis have you?" "Skinny girls are bony girls" and the list goes on . Of course NOW I see the difference. I am a smoker though and get all the smack talk from those around me about how it's killing me, etc. And you know who is the most determined to tell me this stuff... the reformed smokers. I have tried and failed in the past to quit and I am quite sure that I will suceed when I am ready, just as I am suceeding now in my quest for weight loss. But 'reformed fatties' are just as bad... I could tell many people in my life HOW to get skinny and why they need to, but it isn't going to come off as anything but pompous (sp) because quite frankly the truth hurts. I get what the young lady is saying about 'minding your business' in the respect that NO ONE sees it until they open their eyes. It is sad but true. I think your best option, as others have said, is to lead by example... not that you do these things... but no belittling, or bullying is going to work. Big, small, short or tall, white, black, purple, we do all deserve to be loved for who we are and I am sure that you do love your brother or you wouldn't have cared ENOUGH to say how you felt or post it. I hope that for his sake he does eventually come around... until then, his choices are just that HIS choices . 0
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I started my weight-loss almost immediately after I ended my own WoW-addiction (yes, there are many people that can play the game casually. I was not one of those casual people.).
let me rephrase that:
*I* started my weight-loss immediately after *I* ended my own WoW addiction.
No one can dedicate themselves to changing their entire way of life except, well, themselves. It's great that you're trying to be healthier and happier, but you're not him and you can't make those decisions for him, and you certainly can't undertake a total shift in lifestyle for him. If it ever happens for him, it will be because he wants it and he commits himself to it. If that day comes and you're there to provide support, kudos to you. Until then...get off your high horse and concentrate on your own goals.
If I had someone constantly telling me how I was fat and wasting my life, I can't imagine I'd ever have wanted to leave the imaginary (but accepting) virtual world.0 -
Man. Cheetos sound good. Haven't had any for so long.0
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I started my weight-loss almost immediately after I ended my own WoW-addiction (yes, there are many people that can play the game casually. I was not one of those casual people.).
let me rephrase that:
*I* started my weight-loss immediately after *I* ended my own WoW addiction.
No one can dedicate themselves to changing their entire way of life except, well, themselves. It's great that you're trying to be healthier and happier, but you're not him and you can't make those decisions for him, and you certainly can't undertake a total shift in lifestyle for him. If it ever happens for him, it will be because he wants it and he commits himself to it. If that day comes and you're there to provide support, kudos to you. Until then...get off your high horse and concentrate on your own goals.
If I had someone constantly telling me how I was fat and wasting my life, I can't imagine I'd ever have wanted to leave the imaginary (but accepting) virtual world.
Agreed.
I'm assuming she's not constantly fat shaming him though. She pointed out that she chose not to push the matter, so kudos to her for that.0 -
Man. Cheetos sound good. Haven't had any for so long.
I could definitely go for some of those natural white cheddar cheetos.
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Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
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I googled "fat shaming" just because I think it's a funny expression and got this (even funnier) link.
http://www.xojane.com/fun/how-do-you-put-a-cat-on-a-diet0 -
I googled "fat shaming" just because I think it's a funny expression and got this (even funnier) link.
http://www.xojane.com/fun/how-do-you-put-a-cat-on-a-diet
That is one adorable fat cat.0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
And turned the thread into something else entirely. >.<0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
BS. You made it about yourself and the OP.0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
And turned the thread into something else entirely. >.<
Pretty sure the people who started trying to discount my points by personally attacking me did that far before I derailed what little was left of this thread.0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
BS. You made it about yourself and the OP.
Who started asking about my urine again?0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
BS. You made it about yourself and the OP.
Who started asking about my urine again?
Who is being troll again?
I started out by stating if people are fat but have good blood/urine/phsyical shape, then so be it. Nothing anyone can say about it.
Then you started in with the rants and making it about YOURSELF. So I asked if YOUR numbers were good, then you can have that stance. If you numbers are BAD or if you DON'T KNOW your numbers, you ain't got jack to say. Plain and simple. Sorry to be direct but you're acting like a blame diverting troll.0 -
Ume, I love you, but now you're just being flat out antagonistic. We get it, okay? But she's not making fun of her brother for being obese.
The majority of my posts have had approximately nothing to do with OP.
And turned the thread into something else entirely. >.<
Pretty sure the people who started trying to discount my points by personally attacking me did that far before I derailed what little was left of this thread.
I'm not saying it's YOUR fault. I'm saying that everyone not referring to the original post is doing the same thing (including me right now).0 -
Ignoring all the middle-thread arguments: one of the things that did contribute to my own "wake up" moment were my awesome husband and amazing kids. I wanted to make myself better as a person, partially to contribute more and set a better example for them.
Maybe the OP could gently show her brother there are other things in life? Get him out of the house without making it weight-loss oriented, get him to visit a park with nice (and gentle) walking trails and chitchat about other things, or even go out to the movies once every other week (and don't park as close as you can to the theatre, lol). Spend time with him as a person, give him a support instead of judgement, maybe even get him to play an offline 2player game with you. Challenge him to chess! Work on your relationship, not his girth.
Maybe he will realize in his own time that there are people who love him and value him, and worry about him, and just maybe it will inspire him to live a longer, healthier life.0
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