people who LOST weight eating MORE
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thanks for sharing your story! Another reminder that i need to focus on how clothes fit and inches lost rather than freaking about the scale all the time...hard to do sometimes, but I am trying! Gonna take a look at that book too!0
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Bumpy!:bigsmile:0
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Then you are probabaly already at the weight where they get you to eat your calories back.
I love this thread - and am subscribing.
I've tried all the fad diets offered from Cambridge powders through Weight Watchers, and ultimately had gastric bypass surgery in 2004, when my weight was at 365 - resulting in 100 pounds falling off because it had no choice. As time went on, I started to graze -- and slowly the weight came back on. Back at 302, I re-joined Weight Watchers this past March, and faithfully tracked for a couple of months, but found it unrealistic as I felt I was spending too much time converting foods to point plus values - and not completely understanding the caloric values of food. I was frustrated. So, I bagged it - again. Then, my fiance and I started working out at the gym in March, thinking if we incorporated exercise in our lives things would get better. We simply never really understood "how much and what types of foods to eat," and although we felt better due to increased activity, the weight loss didn't really occur. We met a gentleman at the gym who referred us to MFP - and started using in October.
When I started MFP, I was "up there again," - and can't honestly recall at this moment what the weight was - because I hated the scale, but I gained back the little bit of weight lost at WW. Since joining MFP, I have struggled with the amount of calories to eat - and was trying to lose 2 pounds a week, but then I foolisly only ate 1,000 to 1,500 - fluctuating - largely because I don't know what I'm doing - (thinking eat less, lose more) - but the weight really won't come off with the vigor it should at that rate? At any rate, I slowly felt to feel more tired, sluggish, and wasn't able to complete hour long weight lifting and cardio sessions at the gym - I'd go through the motions but things just didn't feel right - I think I was starving myself!
So, just yesterday - after reading some others' posts here - and following the Biggest Loser (BL) guideline of current weight x 7 to determine target daily calorie goal- I've just reset to 1,850 - (45% percent of the total calories come from carbohydrates, 30% from protein, and 25% from fat). I think I'm going to stay off the scales for a few weeks to see how the adjustment works.
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This is a great thread! thanks to everyone who put their helpful information on here for us to use.:flowerforyou:0
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When I first lost weight, I was doing moderate exercise (mostly walking) and it seemed to work to only eat a small portion of the exercise calories. However, I am doing weight training and running now, and I stopped losing after the initial 30 lb loss. By adding back most of the exercise calories, I have not only gained the stamina I need to function at work (I work in a hospital lab where I am frenetically busy and on my feet all day), but I also am having better exercise sessions. I have lost 4 lbs in a little under a week, and am hoping this continues.0
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Bumping again to get more input!0
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Isn't it a revelation knowing humans are able to eat reasonably and not be unhealthy?0
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I need to have some serious thinking, research and calculating done and come back here with more questions.
But my first ones are:
Anyone can refer me to and article or write some encouraging thoughts about how can you actually convince yourself to up your calories? It seems I'm freakishly under eating, but if I consider upping my intake my mind freaks out... How can I overcome that?
How did you overcome that?
How long should you give to this "experiment" (I'll call it that until it proves itself)? A month? Two months? If I start eating more and gaining more weight (as I know I will) how can I keep myself from going back under 1200 just to lose something again?
How can you "lose" the scale? I'm a card carrying member of the SWS (Scale *kitten* Society) and start each and every day by stepping on the scale... How do you change this? What if I start gaining A LOT while eating more, but because I do not know I have no way to adjust??
I know you might point out that I have some major control-issues. I know that, but I'm currently working on my weight loss in which my control-issues are actually helpful sometimes (like making me going to the gym 4 times a week, or keeping my eating under 1200...)
I've rocking a gastric band since June 2011, and so far have lost over 40lbs. Because of the band I do not feel hungry even on my very low food intake. I started running in July and now I run 3*5K every week, plus do 2 zumba-type classes. I'm wearing a BodyMedia Fit, which keeps telling me I burn over 2000kcal even on a resting day... so I clock well over 1000kcal deficit EACH DAY - I still put on 3 pounds in the last 10 days... I need some major adjustments - both on food level and head level...
Thank you all in advance for helping me out with your thoughts - I appreciate every and all response (including PMs).0 -
Bump...
I need to have some serious thinking, research and calculating done and come back here with more questions.
But my first ones are:
Anyone can refer me to and article or write some encouraging thoughts about how can you actually convince yourself to up your calories? It seems I'm freakishly under eating, but if I consider upping my intake my mind freaks out... How can I overcome that?
How did you overcome that?
How long should you give to this "experiment" (I'll call it that until it proves itself)? A month? Two months? If I start eating more and gaining more weight (as I know I will) how can I keep myself from going back under 1200 just to lose something again?
How can you "lose" the scale? I'm a card carrying member of the SWS (Scale *kitten* Society) and start each and every day by stepping on the scale... How do you change this? What if I start gaining A LOT while eating more, but because I do not know I have no way to adjust??
I know you might point out that I have some major control-issues. I know that, but I'm currently working on my weight loss in which my control-issues are actually helpful sometimes (like making me going to the gym 4 times a week, or keeping my eating under 1200...)
I've rocking a gastric band since June 2011, and so far have lost over 40lbs. Because of the band I do not feel hungry even on my very low food intake. I started running in July and now I run 3*5K every week, plus do 2 zumba-type classes. I'm wearing a BodyMedia Fit, which keeps telling me I burn over 2000kcal even on a resting day... so I clock well over 1000kcal deficit EACH DAY - I still put on 3 pounds in the last 10 days... I need some major adjustments - both on food level and head level...
Thank you all in advance for helping me out with your thoughts - I appreciate every and all response (including PMs).
wow, a 1000 deficit each day? That must be so hard on your body. I know many on here can help you as it sounds like you are not eating anywhere near enough. x0 -
Lots to read, marking for later.0
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Bump...
I need to have some serious thinking, research and calculating done and come back here with more questions.
But my first ones are:
Anyone can refer me to and article or write some encouraging thoughts about how can you actually convince yourself to up your calories? It seems I'm freakishly under eating, but if I consider upping my intake my mind freaks out... How can I overcome that?
How did you overcome that?
How long should you give to this "experiment" (I'll call it that until it proves itself)? A month? Two months? If I start eating more and gaining more weight (as I know I will) how can I keep myself from going back under 1200 just to lose something again?
How can you "lose" the scale? I'm a card carrying member of the SWS (Scale *kitten* Society) and start each and every day by stepping on the scale... How do you change this? What if I start gaining A LOT while eating more, but because I do not know I have no way to adjust??
I know you might point out that I have some major control-issues. I know that, but I'm currently working on my weight loss in which my control-issues are actually helpful sometimes (like making me going to the gym 4 times a week, or keeping my eating under 1200...)
I've rocking a gastric band since June 2011, and so far have lost over 40lbs. Because of the band I do not feel hungry even on my very low food intake. I started running in July and now I run 3*5K every week, plus do 2 zumba-type classes. I'm wearing a BodyMedia Fit, which keeps telling me I burn over 2000kcal even on a resting day... so I clock well over 1000kcal deficit EACH DAY - I still put on 3 pounds in the last 10 days... I need some major adjustments - both on food level and head level...
Thank you all in advance for helping me out with your thoughts - I appreciate every and all response (including PMs).
Below are some great resources and success stories. The biggest thing that you need to understand is stuff like basal metabolic rates (your metabolism) and total daily energy expended (the amount of energy expended throughout the day). You will want to research under eating and muscle loss. Bodyrecomp is a good research as noted below with some good research articles.
Also, i did a study on MFP (collected 88 participates) and everyone with lower body fat, ate more calories. Also, if you know you gained 3 lb (which is water weight) by eating very little, why not try to eat 500 more calories for 1 month to see if it provides different results? But below are some good articles.
http://www.shapefit.com/basal-metabolic-rate.html
http://www.cordianet.com/calculator.htm
http://www.bodyrecomposition.com/fat-loss/adding-muscle-while-losing-fat-qa.html
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/384720-working-out-and-eating-back-calories?page=2#posts-5268008
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/392784-skinny-fat-vs-fit-photo?hl=skinny+fat&page=2#posts-5441852
http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2011/07/21/meet-staci-your-new-powerlifting-super-hero/
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/395948-caloric-intake-results0 -
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OK I think my NET calories have been running low - if anyone can check out my diary and confirm, I'd appreciate it. I've been bouncing around the same 2-3 pounds for about a month. So I was thinking my net was low, and I should add 200 back in... I should just go ahead and add 200 per day in or 100 this week and another 100 next week, or what is the best way to go about it.
Last month I make a big effort to try to get closer to my daily allowance, even tho it slowed me down while KNOCKING on the door to ONEderland - I figured it wasn't going to get any easier, so I might as well get her done - but I think I did not do ENOUGH yet.
It's possible I'm taking a bit of a break from working out this month too as I have an injury anyway. Should I just not worry about it until January when things get more on a routine schedule? I don't know why I can't just make up my own mind about this stuff, but I've been reading a lot and I think my brain is tired.0 -
Yes, MFP started me at 1200 calories, and I hardly lost any weight after the first couple weeks. I tried eating calories back, not eating them back...but I couldn't lose much of anything as long as my net was under 1200.
So, a friend suggest adding a couple hundred. I raised mine to 1380 (0.5 lbs per week goal), and always eat my calories back to net above 1200, and I have been consistently losing ever since.
This is pretty much what happened with me, too. Then I had gallbladder surgery the day before Thanksgiving and haven't been able to exercise since. I've been eating about 1600 calories a day with no exercise, and I lost 3 pounds last week! Strangest thing. I'm curious what will happen when I start exercising again (just waiting for the doc to give me the all-clear, hopefully at my appointment today!).0 -
Take a look at my result
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Thanks Lemon - again.
I'm saving and going through the links right now.0 -
I used to net (i.e. exercise calories all eaten) 1200-1300 and was losing weight just fine. I'm only 5' 1.5", so I figured that was fine.
HOWEVER... recently I started getting more serious about weight training, and started to eat a lot more to help my muscles. These days I net 2100+ calories on a training day and 1700-1800 calories on rest days. AND I'M STILL LOSING. Somewhat more slowly compared to before, but still. Between eating 1200 net and losing semi-fast, and eating 1900+ net and losing a tad slower, I know which one I prefer!
This has only gone on for a month though. I'll need to keep it up for a few more weeks to ascertain the trend.0 -
This is really screwed up anecdotal evidence. People usually say something like "I ate low calories for a week and didn't lose weight. Then the next week I ate more and lost weight blah blah"
Well, for one, you can't gather data based on ONE WEEK. So you held on to some water weight? Second, the longer you are on a deficit the more you will see results. Just because you ate x calories more doesn't mean anything, you still had a calorie deficit so you lost weight.
Lets see anyone, I challenge anyone to prove they ATE 1200 calories a day for a month and tell me they didn't lose weight? (Assuming you aren't 4 feet tall).
Eating MORE calories is easier to stick to long term, so that is why more people lose weight eating more. If you are hardcore working out, eating a lot and still have a deficit you will burn fat. This is hard for most people to do which is why I say focus on diet first.0 -
So I started with eating 1200 only for like 8 months. Lost weight, then stopped. Most of that time I exercised 5-6 days per week, so most of the time my net was only like 500 calories. 3 months ago, I started upping my calories. I now eat back most of my exercise calories. Sometimes all, but sometimes I can't eat that much. I plateaued about 7 weeks, then finally started losing. I oly lost for 2 weeks, which was like 4 lb, but then plateaued again. Been here (up a pound) for 3 weeks again. I can't stay here for another 7 weeks, I'll go crazy. Do you think I should try to net more? Maybe try to make my weight loss at 1.5 lb per week or something. I have a BMF and most days I'm still pretty over a 1000 calorie deficit. I was thinking maybe a jar a peanut butter, since sometimes I'm not as hungry. I do eat nuts, but I figure if at the end of the day, I'm low, I can just eat 2 tbsp of PB and up my calories quickly.
What do you guys think? These plateaus are killing me!!0 -
Since I have been replacing my Calories with food, the # on the scale has been dropping
It's going to be different for everyone.
For me, I was very sceptical. "eat MORE to lose weight"?? It didn't make sense Still doesn't lol, But since I started eating more Its doing the trick.0 -
Lets see anyone, I challenge anyone to prove they ATE 1200 calories a day for a month and tell me they didn't lose weight? (Assuming you aren't 4 feet tall).
There are people in this thread that have proven to eat 1200 calories and not lost. Plus I have worked with a ton of people on this board with the same issue. Heck, look in half the threads about plateaus and you will see this. Hell in fact, I did 90 days of p90x and ate 1800 calories and didn't lose but when I upped my calories to 2600, I lost 3% body fat in 3 months and 7 lbs.0 -
Found my reading for tonight.0
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4'11" here, lost about 7 lbs at 1200 cals a day then stalled (plus I felt like CRAP). Upped to 1395 (1/2 lb week loss) and have been slowly and steadily losing since :drinker:0
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I was undereating for a while and over-exercising. At my worst point, I was eating anywhere from 800-1,200 calories and working out every day and burning about 300-400 calories! I slowly upped my calories at first and still managed to maintain. HOWEVER, now that I'm not nearly as active and I'm eating about 1,700 calories, I have gained about 5-10 pounds, but have managed to maintain at my current weight for about 2 months now and I'm ok with it as this was my ultimate goal anyway and I was starting to look scary skinny and "sick" at my lowest weight (which was 114 - I'm now 130!).
Undereating, will definitely do more damage than good in the longrun. I knew this while I was doing it and yet I continued to to do it and I knew I was ruining my metabolism. I was also well aware that once I started to eat normally, I would gain.0 -
But still under limit.0
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Eating not enough without realizing it and not exercising for way too long got me to my high weight. Watching what I ate, but still not eating enough, and over exercising got me a few lbs lost, but then I started gaining again. This month my two biggest weight loss weeks were after Thanksgiving weekend and this week after attending TWO christmas parties...go figure! Forcing myself to eat just a little more has made a huge difference!
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Thats awesome. Congrats on the weight loss!0
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The theory is not to eat so much that you eat more cals than you burn. The meaning is to keep you body fueled properly. When you lose weight your loosing fat and muscle. Eating the right amount of protein, carbs and fat will reduce your muscle loss and speed up your fat loss. When you eat your bodies temp rises. This burns cals. Eating more times a day keeps the fluctuating fat/muscle loss/storage at a slower pace.
I'm sure that some people may disagree with this based upon a 10 person scientific test. P90X and Insanity follow these guidlines. We've all seen the results.0
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