Cutting dairy from diet? Your thoughts...

I hate seeing these ancient artifact papers being picked clean for facts that support an argument by people who don't understand how to choose or read a research article.

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At least I have studies. I'm sure you did a ton of research before deciding dairy was good for you, right? You didn't just...I don't know...hear it at school or EVERYWHERE?

I've never really had any class that told me what food was 'good' or 'bad' for me. I certainly understand digestion, though. And how to properly support an argument. Give me 10 minutes and I can pick clean a bunch of papers that WILL say calcium is good for you, etc. etc.

Yes....calcium IS good for you. When packaged with dairy, however, it causes the blood to become slightly acidic, which the body deals with by pulling calcium from the bones.

Don't take my word for it, look it up yourself! I used to love milk and now I think it's the most disgusting fluid...full of blood, pus, muscus...ew. Not to mention the fact that it's horrible for your body.

Just a thought here... so the milk we produce for our children to nurse them on, is that somehow completely fundamentally different from cow's milk? I mean, both milks serve the same purpose, don't they? I'm sure what they're comprised of can vary widely depending on the mother's diet, but human milk probably has some of those same nasty and horrible things you mentioned. I just don't get your argument at all.

That's a great question you brought up. Yes, human milk and cow milk are very different. Human milk is meant for human infants, (duh), who develop slowly and whose main nutritional needs are for the brain. Cows, on the other hand, make milk to facilitate the massive physical growth calves go through. Hence, cow's milk is much higher in protein than is human milk, amoung other things.

As far as blood, pus, and muscus being in human milk...I don't know. But I don't plan on giving my infant a jug of breast-milk that has been milked from dozens (or more) different females. It'll be straight from me to her, just like nature intended.

I just want to say something, since everyone always gets so worked up whenever I express my opinion that cow's milk is meant for baby cows, and not as a necessary part of the human diet. I'm not trying to be contrary or stomp all over everyone's beloved milk. It took several years of relunctant open-mindedness and skepticism before I gradually came around to my current stance. Here in America, we are taught our entire lives, through school and the media, that dairy is very healthy and we should eat a ton of it. The facts are different. The dairy industry is powerful, and they have influence in the government. I encourage everyone to do their own research and decide for themselves.

That is all.

I just want to say something, since everyone always gets so worked up whenever I express my opinion that cow's milk is meant for baby cows, and not as a necessary part of the human diet. I'm not trying to be contrary or stomp all over everyone's beloved milk. It took several years of relunctant open-mindedness and skepticism before I gradually came around to my current stance. Here in America, we are taught our entire lives, through school and the media, that dairy is very healthy and we should eat a ton of it. The facts are different. The dairy industry is powerful, and they have influence in the government. I encourage everyone to do their own research and decide for themselves.

That is all.

Not so much worked up - who doesn't like to debate right?
I'm reading as I study ^-^ If we didn't debate all these studies wouldn't be posted.

Ron has some awesome ones!

Cutting dairy out of my diet?

Best thing I've ever bloody done when it comes to my eating habits.

I just want to say something, since everyone always gets so worked up whenever I express my opinion that cow's milk is meant for baby cows, and not as a necessary part of the human diet. I'm not trying to be contrary or stomp all over everyone's beloved milk. It took several years of relunctant open-mindedness and skepticism before I gradually came around to my current stance. Here in America, we are taught our entire lives, through school and the media, that dairy is very healthy and we should eat a ton of it. The facts are different. The dairy industry is powerful, and they have influence in the government. I encourage everyone to do their own research and decide for themselves.

That is all.

Not so much worked up - who doesn't like to debate right?
I'm reading as I study ^-^ If we didn't debate all these studies wouldn't be posted.

Ron has some awesome ones!

I guess it's just me that gets worked up, then.

Eh watching debates entertains me through finals week
Some get me worked up, can't deny it tho xD

Even though I study nutrition in school and am always reading up on articles as much as I can... milk hasn't came up yet xD SO it is more reading material for me later!

My opinion: If milk isn't doing you any harm and you enjoy it - drink up! If you experience problems then don't
It will not have a more positive effect on fat loss if you remain in the same calorie deficit in most cases.

Personally I like coconut milk best. SO creamy and yummy! Taste preference for me. If it was cheaper I would buy it more

Edit: Spelling - sounded dirty xD

i wouldn't suggest cutting out dairy completely but i know i switched over to almond milk and i love it.

Personally I like coconut milk best. SO creamy and yummy! Taste preference for me. If it was cheaper I would buy it more

550 calories pre cup...just sayin

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550 calories pre cup...just sayin
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So Delicious has 50 calories per cup

550 calories pre cup...just sayin
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So Delicious has 50 calories per cup
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true...so delicious removes 4 of the 5 grams of protein and most of the carb calories

550 calories pre cup...just sayin

So Delicious has 50 calories per cup

true...so delicious removes 4 of the 5 grams of protein and most of the carb calories

I drink so delicious in my protein shakes a lot

But use the high calorie stuff in my oatmeal and in other things ^-^ Easy way to get calories on those days i'm not hungry!
Or sometimes get the light organic kind.

SoOoOo much yumminess.
550 calories a cup yes - but half a cup some days isn't bad ^-^

550 calories pre cup...just sayin

So Delicious has 50 calories per cup
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Yes by adding water. I use it in my protein smoothies

Give up my beloved cheese? Never! Horrors!!

I just want to say something, since everyone always gets so worked up whenever I express my opinion that cow's milk is meant for baby cows, and not as a necessary part of the human diet. I'm not trying to be contrary or stomp all over everyone's beloved milk. It took several years of relunctant open-mindedness and skepticism before I gradually came around to my current stance. Here in America, we are taught our entire lives, through school and the media, that dairy is very healthy and we should eat a ton of it. The facts are different. The dairy industry is powerful, and they have influence in the government. I encourage everyone to do their own research and decide for themselves.

That is all.

I get worked up when I see outrageously false things, like cow's milk being filled with blood and pus. Then your powers of comprehension and critical thinking are brought into question and your whole argument looks ludicrous.

Just as an fyi....

I am severly allergic to any and all dairy products my whole life. I am still here working on losing weight.

I think a calorie is a calorie and that you shouldn't be depriving yourself of an entire food group needlessly. If you eat under your TDEE you will lose weight, wether it is from dairy free food or not.