diet soda or no diet soda

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  • MattGetsMad
    MattGetsMad Posts: 429 Member
    This whole thread has kind of taken a strange turn. It has turned into people being told what is right and what is wrong. After reading my previous post, I realize how brash I sounded and I apologize for that but my point is this:

    Diet soda drinkers shouldn't have to defend themselves, but they shouldn't lie to themselves either. Diet soda is not a healthy alternative to soda. It is a sugar free alternative to soda. That's it. A healthy alternative to soda is water. Period, point blank, simple.

    Now, please assault me with endless comments and website links.

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  • 3GKnight
    3GKnight Posts: 203
    Perspective is overrated.
  • What is wrong with caffeine?

    nothing

    Exactly! Not sure why the caffeine is now bad in the soda too xD I get LOTS of caffeine everyday.
  • mommamuscles
    mommamuscles Posts: 584 Member
    Personally, I think diet pop is of the DEVIL!!!! LOL. But I was really addicted to it, and for me I needed to cut it out. I don't know if 3-4 a week will derail your efforts to lose weight but it is full of chemicals and unnatural stuff that is not good for anyone. Plus, most are high in sodium and will cause you to drink less water. Cutting it out of my diet was one of my first steps in winning the battle over my weight. I'm sure people have differing opinions, but its just my experience.
  • This whole thread has kind of taken a strange turn. It has turned into people being told what is right and what is wrong. After reading my previous post, I realize how brash I sounded and I apologize for that but my point is this:

    Diet soda drinkers shouldn't have to defend themselves, but they shouldn't lie to themselves either. Diet soda is not a healthy alternative to soda. It is a sugar free alternative to soda. That's it. A healthy alternative to soda is water. Period, point blank, simple.

    Now, please assault me with endless comments and website links.

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    I don't see how they are lying to themselves. It can be a better alternative. Zero calorie soda while losing weight or 170 calorie soda..hmmm..
  • Jeff92se
    Jeff92se Posts: 3,369 Member
    This whole thread has kind of taken a strange turn. It has turned into people being told what is right and what is wrong. After reading my previous post, I realize how brash I sounded and I apologize for that but my point is this:

    Diet soda drinkers shouldn't have to defend themselves, but they shouldn't lie to themselves either. Diet soda is not a healthy alternative to soda. It is a sugar free alternative to soda. That's it. A healthy alternative to soda is water. Period, point blank, simple.

    Now, please assault me with endless comments and website links.

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    I think everyone already knows this. Question is knowing and doing are two very different things.
  • BobbyClerici
    BobbyClerici Posts: 813 Member

    What is wrong with caffeine?
    It's POISON. Google it and you'll find TONS of articles, blogs and opinions on how bad it is for you...................:laugh:

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    Finally; we agree - lol
    It's a drug too- highly addictive, and I weaned down to green tea.
    The amount of caffeine here is not that great. I just don't like being addicted.

    No harm though; let's not get too dogmatic about the good things of life.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member

    Exactly! Not sure why the caffeine is now bad in the soda too xD I get LOTS of caffeine everyday.

    I suppose the things people find unhealthy about soda are the acid, caffeine, and artificial sweeteners.

    I don't think anyone with moderate soda habits will have any issues with the above. I do have concerns, perhaps unfounded, for people who are drinking 60+ oz of diet soda on a daily basis. (teeth, GI tract, etc)

    For me, it's simple. I hate the taste, and know that diet soda has no redeeming nutritional value. I think for others, it is a successful strategy for replacing sugary drinks.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    Study: Drinking diet soda actually causes weight gain, blood sugar spikes

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033110_diet_soda_weight_gain.html#ixzz1gMWBgUkr

  • Exactly! Not sure why the caffeine is now bad in the soda too xD I get LOTS of caffeine everyday.

    I suppose the things people find unhealthy about soda are the acid, caffeine, and artificial sweeteners.

    I don't think anyone with moderate soda habits will have any issues with the above. I do have concerns, perhaps unfounded, for people who are drinking 60+ oz of diet soda on a daily basis. (teeth, GI tract, etc)

    For me, it's simple. I hate the taste, and know that diet soda has no redeeming nutritional value. I think for others, it is a successful strategy for replacing sugary drinks.

    I think if it helps them then I see no problem. Just need a good tooth brush xD
    I actually rarely drink diet soda, but i stick up for it :] Just because the "poison" thing bugs me to no end
    I like some ginger ale or 7up when I am sick, but coffee is my regualr drink. I get over 1g of caffeine per day now :indifferent:
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member
    Study: Drinking diet soda actually causes weight gain, blood sugar spikes

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033110_diet_soda_weight_gain.html#ixzz1gMWBgUkr

    Now this just frustrates me. If you'd taken the time to read the thread, you'd see that people have already referenced this study. Other posters have also debunked this study, noting that it was not controlled by diet. Not controlling for diet invites all kinds of confounding variables, that prevents this correlation from being anything like "causation." The correlation is practically meaningless in this study...
  • RaeN81
    RaeN81 Posts: 534 Member
    bump--so many responses here! I personally enjoy diet drinks but I am aware that they add to my daily sodium and caffeine and if I drink too much it does have side effects. I'm sure the debate will rage on about them for some time to come.
  • christibear
    christibear Posts: 93 Member
    As long as your not counting it as fluid intake. Drink as much water and more for every can you drink.

    Completely wrong. In terms of hydration soda counts just as much as pure water. Caffeine does not dehydrate you.

    I'm sorry but I disagree, soda does not hydrate the body as much as pure water, no body will ever convince me otherwise.
  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    Study: Drinking diet soda actually causes weight gain, blood sugar spikes

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033110_diet_soda_weight_gain.html#ixzz1gMWBgUkr

    Now this just frustrates me. If you'd taken the time to read the thread, you'd see that people have already referenced this study. Other posters have also debunked this study, noting that it was not controlled by diet. Not controlling for diet invites all kinds of confounding variables, that prevents this correlation from being anything like "causation." The correlation is practically meaningless in this study...

    No need to get frustrated. Everyone is entitled to an opinion or post. Plus, I don't have time to read 11 pages of posts. I, personally, don't agree that diet sodas are the right way to go. I'm sure not everyone who disagreed with the study is an expert other than the fact that they like to drink diet sodas.
  • ShapeUpSidney
    ShapeUpSidney Posts: 1,092 Member

    No need to get frustrated. Everyone is entitled to an opinion or post. Plus, I don't have time to read 11 pages of posts. I, personally, don't agree that diet sodas are the right way to go. I'm sure not everyone who disagreed with the study is an expert other than the fact that they like to drink diet sodas.

    Rehash the same. old. crap. Right or wrong, it's annoying.
  • Puffins1958
    Puffins1958 Posts: 614 Member
    I don't generally drink carbonated drinks

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  • Suzanne106
    Suzanne106 Posts: 149 Member
    If you enjoy it, drink it! I don't smoke, do drugs or drink alcohol so if a diet coke a day makes me happy and makes you happy, then have one. It won't hinder your weight loss. If you deprive yourself of anything eventually you will binge on it or feel cheated and irritated so just have a diet coke and a smile:drinker:
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    I don't generally drink carbonated drinks

    Trying to avoid C02 or what?
  • killagb
    killagb Posts: 3,280 Member
    If you enjoy it, drink it! I don't smoke, do drugs or drink alcohol so if a diet coke a day makes me happy and makes you happy, then have one. It won't hinder your weight loss. If you deprive yourself of anything eventually you will binge on it or feel cheated and irritated so just have a diet coke and a smile:drinker:
    Exactly, no diet soda for me....but a bong hit...why yes please! :smokin:
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    The only real problem with diet sodas is they taste hideous.

    Other than that knock yourselves out. From a weight loss point their effect is de minimis.
  • EricMurano
    EricMurano Posts: 825 Member
    I drink diet soda although I probably shouldn't.

    It's good in that it saves you from drinking nearly 200 calories in a regular soda.

    It's bad because you get addicted, well I do anyway.

    Plus there's a lot of talk about artificial sweetener being really bad for you. I know the claims aren't backed by much but sometimes where there's smoke there's fire.
  • Ind3p3dent
    Ind3p3dent Posts: 11 Member
    Here is a thought... Regular coke is my only vice. I can give up everything but I love my soda. I tried to drink diet sodas to curb the craving but I was concerned about the artificial sugar.
    I went to the store and bout tiny 90 calorie cans of the real stuff. As long as I drink water I find that it is easier to have the little can than to worry about the artificial sugar. I happily cut out other things so I can have my vice.
    Another solution could be to drink sparkling water. 0 calories, 0 sugar, and 0 sodium.

    Good Luck :smile:
  • myofibril
    myofibril Posts: 4,500 Member
    Here is a thought... Regular coke is my only vice. I can give up everything but I love my soda. I tried to drink diet sodas to curb the craving but I was concerned about the artificial sugar.
    I went to the store and bout tiny 90 calorie cans of the real stuff. As long as I drink water I find that it is easier to have the little can than to worry about the artificial sugar. I happily cut out other things so I can have my vice.
    Another solution could be to drink sparkling water. 0 calories, 0 sugar, and 0 sodium.

    Good Luck :smile:

    Portion control innit? I love a nice ice cold coke with ice, lemon and a twist of lime in a tall, frosted glass. A 330ml can is more than enough.

    If I want a sweet sparkling drink I generally have Bottle Green Elderflower Cordial mixed with San Pellegrino sparkling water. Tastes delicious and minimal calories. Low cal doesn't have to mean low taste...
  • diet45
    diet45 Posts: 392 Member
    I stopped drinking soda in July 2010!!! I had a hard time drinking water, but after I quit drinking the diet soda I started craving water. I do have a non-fat iced mocha w/ one pump of chocolate....so I haven't given up everything, but so glad I gave up the soda!!! Do what is best for you!!!
  • iuew
    iuew Posts: 624 Member
    I drink diet soda although I probably shouldn't.

    It's good in that it saves you from drinking nearly 200 calories in a regular soda.

    It's bad because you get addicted, well I do anyway.

    Plus there's a lot of talk about artificial sweetener being really bad for you. I know the claims aren't backed by much but sometimes where there's smoke there's fire.

    not always. andrew wakefield caused a firestorm of anti-vaccine woo with his autism / vaccine link nonsense. since then, his study has been thoroughly debunked.

    saccharine and aspartame are some of the most tested substances on earth. the hysteria has not held up to scientific scrutiny.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    Finally; we agree - lol
    It's a drug too- highly addictive, and I weaned down to green tea.
    The amount of caffeine here is not that great. I just don't like being addicted.

    No harm though; let's not get too dogmatic about the good things of life.
    I know lots of people who love their coffee and tea and will bust someone's chops if it had to be taken away. So yes caffeine is addicting. I don't like coffee or tea. That's probably why I drink diet Pepsi a couple of times a day.

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  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    Study: Drinking diet soda actually causes weight gain, blood sugar spikes

    Learn more: http://www.naturalnews.com/033110_diet_soda_weight_gain.html#ixzz1gMWBgUkr
    I should be really fat then. :yawn:

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  • BPayton27
    BPayton27 Posts: 626 Member
    I don't drink diet Coke any more, which used to be just about the ONLY thing I did drink. If I have a crave for soda I have a Sprite Zero. I allow myself 1 or 2 a week usually.
  • ninerbuff
    ninerbuff Posts: 48,984 Member
    No need to get frustrated. Everyone is entitled to an opinion or post. Plus, I don't have time to read 11 pages of posts. I, personally, don't agree that diet sodas are the right way to go. I'm sure not everyone who disagreed with the study is an expert other than the fact that they like to drink diet sodas.
    Opinion is fine, but posting a "study" of correlation and stating it as the cause is false information. It's like saying mowing lawns is the cause of allergies. The flying grass may make more people sneeze, but it's not the actual cause.

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  • myak623
    myak623 Posts: 615 Member
    No need to get frustrated. Everyone is entitled to an opinion or post. Plus, I don't have time to read 11 pages of posts. I, personally, don't agree that diet sodas are the right way to go. I'm sure not everyone who disagreed with the study is an expert other than the fact that they like to drink diet sodas.
    Opinion is fine, but posting a "study" of correlation and stating it as the cause is false information. It's like saying mowing lawns is the cause of allergies. The flying grass may make more people sneeze, but it's not the actual cause.

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    I don't agree that the study is giving false information. And, you can make correlation to anything and state it as fact if you try hard enough. The medical industry does it all the time in promoting prescription medication that isn't necessary.

    However, by reading this thread, I would lean to the debate that diet sodas have an addictive affect. Which shows through all the hostility to others on here when told that it is bad for you. Heck, I could say cocaine isn't bad for you since I've lost weight on it. I'm only using this as a point. I don't really use drugs. Just saying that when trying to defend an addiction, people will use any means necessary to prove a point.

    Also, there is a lot of money being made on diet sodas. So, you have to believe that the "industry" is going to do their best to debunk any study that may cause harm to their bottom line.
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