Milk

I don't drink any of those-- I just don't see the need for milk of any kind.

There's no real "need" for any beverage other than water, really, but they're definitely a nice treat - not to mention, they hit the spot with some cookies

Eh, to each their own. I prefer cookies with tea or coffee, personally.

my two cents. Around here it is very easy to find hormone and antibiotic free milk. All our grocery stores carry hormone free and organic, but even the small stores around here sell milk that says from cows not treated with hormones. That's all I'll buy. Now our family pediatrician has been telling me for years not to buy into the hype that we need milk for strong bones. He says it is all a marketing issue, the milk mustache campaign, milk is good food, milk builds strong bones etc. It is all for the dairy industry, the same way soy was pushed and added into everything. Because the farmers were growing more soy. Now, people are starting to get sick from eating too much soy. He said, if your kids like milk, fine, let them drink it but don't be fooled into thinking they need it. No animal once it is weaned ever needs to drink milk again, and you don't see cows and other milk weaned animals walking around with weak bones. He said if you eat healthy, other foods have plenty of calcium. On the other hand, my son's best friend's pediatrician told his mom to make sure he drinks 4 glasses of milk every day. These were two different sports physicals with two different physicians, lol. Friends son is a track runner, my son a wrestler. I know my pediatrician is tops in his field and knows his stuff. If you don't get enough sun every day, you need a vitamin D supplement to make sure your calcium is getting absorbed. Bottom line, milk isn't bad if your not lactose intolerant or cutting dairy, but the advertising industry would have you believe it is more necessary to your health than it actually is.

Honestly, the absolute best would be raw milk straight from the cow. Then the cow is not pumped full of all sorts of hormones and crap and the milk doesn't have all the good stuff taken out and artificially added back into it. A friend of mine can't drink store bought milk because it makes her sick but she has no problem drinking fresh, whole milk.

Plus, milk fresh from a cow tastes so good.

As far as store bought goes, I only buy homo milk now since it works the best for my homemade yogurt so I end up using almost the whole jug for yogurt and drink the rest.

Neither is better. Whichever one fits within your macros for the day is better. That may change day by day.

We don't need milk, but, really, if a consenting adult who doesn't have an intolerance to it wants to drink it, it's no one's business to stop them.

For me, anymore, it's non-fat or nothing, simply because I react badly to milk fats. I only ever drink it when I'm at a relative's house or I'm broke-ish and I want a latte (because they charge you extra for soy milk, which is stupid).

I do eat yogurt, though, because soy yogurt is ridiculously priced, it comes in tiny containers, and I don't currently have the time or resources to make my own. I only eat a couple spoonfuls at a time, so it doesn't noticeably affect my digestive system. I know there are other ways to get the good bacteria from yogurt, but, like I said, I'm poor and Greek yogurt is also a good source of protein, which I need, because the only meat I eat is fish, and I only have that during two meals a week.

If you're drinking milk for the nutrients, you should definitely test out a few alternatives, like rice or soy milk. I prefer rice because it's not as heavy as soy. Actually, I prefer hemp milk, but it's the most expensive and it's really creamy, so I save it for treats. You could also take supplements, if that's your thing. I've started taking vitamin D in place of drinking milk, and I actually get all of my calcium from my diet.

If you're drinking it for the taste, then you're probably going to want to stick with real milk. Soy milk is pretty close in flavor, but it's still a bit...off. None of the rest taste like milk (sorry, guys, but they really don't).

We don't need milk, but, really, if a consenting adult who doesn't have an intolerance to it wants to drink it, it's no one's business to stop them.

The cows would be inclined to disagree

Today's word in anthropomorphism. Can you say anthropomorphism? I bet you can.

We don't need milk, but, really, if a consenting adult who doesn't have an intolerance to it wants to drink it, it's no one's business to stop them.

The cows would be inclined to disagree

Today's word in anthropomorphism. Can you say anthropomorphism? I bet you can.

LOL, you break me up. The anti milk sect will be out soon saying cows can't read.

We don't need milk, but, really, if a consenting adult who doesn't have an intolerance to it wants to drink it, it's no one's business to stop them.

The cows would be inclined to disagree

And I respect that opinion. I have no problem with people presenting their facts and opinions on the matter, but personally attacking someone because they don't share your ideals (like people do early and often on these forums) doesn't solve anything.

I do eat yogurt, though, because soy yogurt is ridiculously priced, it comes in tiny containers, and I don't currently have the time or resources to make my own. I only eat a couple spoonfuls at a time, so it doesn't noticeably affect my digestive system. I know there are other ways to get the good bacteria from yogurt, but, like I said, I'm poor and Greek yogurt is also a good source of protein, which I need, because the only meat I eat is fish, and I only have that during two meals a week.

Storebought non-dairy yogurt is hella overpriced, I'm with you there, but there are some great homemade soy yogurt recipes out there! Even if not for the dairy-free aspect, it's nice to be able to control what goes into your yogurt. I use the recipe here: http://blog.fatfreevegan.com/2007/01/making-soy-yogurt.html

Like I said, I don't currently have the time or resources for that. I have plenty of recipes for yogurt, but they all require that I own a yogurt maker or a thermos, neither of which I own and neither of which I can afford. I mean, I could buy one or the other, but having food now is slightly more important, to me.

cow's milk is for calves, drink water.

can the OP get a few answers to a strait forward question before this old debate begins

Thank you.:)

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I grew up drinking goats milk, from the goat, which I milked...with a kid being what was used to produce more milk. :flowerforyou: She got stolen though, so we had to go back to drinking cows milk.

Like I said, I don't currently have the time or resources for that. I have plenty of recipes for yogurt, but they all require that I own a yogurt maker or a thermos, neither of which I own and neither of which I can afford. I mean, I could buy one or the other, but having food now is slightly more important, to me.

How about an oven or a slow cooker or a heating pad?? I've been making yogurt for a few years now and have never used a thermos or a yogurt maker. I have filled jars with the yogurt milk and put into a preheated oven with the oven light on (oven turned off after it's warmed up) let sit overnight and ta da! Done! But then I moved and there was no oven light so I started putting it in a crock pot. Just take the crock pot thing out and wrap in a towel to keep warm. Let sit overnight and it's done in the morning. I have found recipes where you can put crock pot on low for so many hours and that works too but I've never tried it. This last time I made yogurt I had to wrap it in a heated blanket on high since the house is so cold here now that a towel wasn't keeping it warm enough but with the heated blanket it worked like a charm.

All you need is ANYTHING that can keep it warm enough (but not too warm) for long enough. I've heard of people putting the yogurt milk into jars and into a cooler with a heating pad before.

No slow cooker, cooler, or heating pad, and I share a kitchen with 6 people I barely know who wouldn't appreciate me leaving stuff in the oven overnight. Someday, sure, I'll have the resources to make my own, but, for now, I'm just fine with the yogurt I eat.

I drink organic whole milk. It helps me get the fat I need in my diet (I have my reasons) and it tastes amazing! I have one serving every morning.

How can anyone say they dont need milk!?!

Uh, because we don't? Plus, I can't really drink it without feeling ill. It's great if you like it, but not everyone does.

There is no reason to drink whole milk. It is higher in calories and fat, and actually has slightly less calcium than skim milk. Let’s take a look at the nutrition facts per 1 cup serving.

Whole Milk
150 calories
8g fat
290 mg calcium

Skim Milk
90 calories
.5g fat
316 mg calcium

Both whole milk and skim milk are also excellent sources of protein, phosphorous and potassium.
Switching out whole milk for skim milk will save you a lot of calories and fat, which will help you lose weight.

Really? People just dont understand that you NEED a certain amount of fat in your diet for your body to be healthy. I just recently switched to getting everything I can with whole milk because I've been eating too little fat in my diet! Also, lowering calories isn't always the answer, I had to up my calories to lose weight when I hit a plateau. For the everyday situation, MAYBE skim is better for you. It really just depends on the fats (which aren't BAD for you to get a healthy amount).