Daughter's boyfriend, should I talk?

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  • CarolynB38
    CarolynB38 Posts: 553 Member
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    Yep. A lot of people have said he seems like a good sort. Sounds to me like his self esteem needs a boost and that is something that needs to be done very, very slowly with someone so fragile (yeah I know he practically raised himself, but that doesn't mean he's not fragile). Baby steps - including him in family outings to somewhere he might feel safe might be a start. If he's not happy with that yet, invite him over for dinner and a movie to build your relationship with him too. It must be a weird feeling to suddenly be part of a family after having no one but himself. If I were in his shoes I'm not sure I'd know where to put myself. Sounds like he is more scared than controlling. Just keep an eye on the situation but I'm sure getting to know him better will help all round
  • bloodbank
    bloodbank Posts: 468 Member
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    He may have abandonment issues, because of the life he had as a young teenager. Give it some time, as long as he doesn't tell her that she can't see her friends, talk to male friends, ect, I don't see where the problem is.

    He may also just be the type of person who likes to stay home and relax with friends/his girlfriend, or he may not have enough money to pay for your daughters movie or dinner and feels inadequate, so instead of telling her that he suggests they just stay home.

    Just be a part of her life and if you notice any warning signs of an abusive relationship, maybe have a chat with her.

    I agree with this. Keep an open dialog and a watchful eye.

    For what it's worth, I remember being verrrry attached at the hip with my boyfriend at that age - we both had cars and money but preferred to hang out at my house together watching movies / listening to music / talking / making out when no one was looking, instead of going out and doing things.

    Plus, the first thing I thought was that if everyone in his life who was supposed to care about him walked away, I'd imagine that's a very good reason to want to follow her everywhere she goes, even around the house. Socially normal? No. Totally healthy? Probably not. Dangerous? Not unless it escalates into something really weird.

    Man, I'd just want to hug that kid. What a trooper. :/
  • taradactyl81
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    I was this girl when I was in high school. I was dating a very nice 17 year old boy (for 2 years) who also had a horrible upbringing and was left responsible for not only himself but his two younger siblings. He was controlling, angry, and depressed. He didnt like me to be with my friends, we could only hang out with his and when we did, we did nothing. After two years I grew tired of it and did begin to branch out on my own. I started to spend time with my friends again and began o make plans for college. HE of course did not like this and we broke up. The thing is, your daughter will have to make the decision to end things or not on her own. As much as you would love to, you cant make her feelings for the boy dissappear. When she is ready, they will.
  • JayneWilson1963
    JayneWilson1963 Posts: 543 Member
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    You have to play in cool, anything else would be pushing your daughter into his arms.

    Totally agree. When m daughter started dating her now husband, it was hard for me to let go of her. I managed to keep my mouth shut (which was quite difficult for me.) Glad I did, it all worked out fine, I love her husband now just as if he was my own. Hang in there, take it from someone who has already traveled that path, it does get better.
  • Nikkiray32
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    Hello,
    I hope this helps your situation a little. I am also speaking from past experience of being on both sides of your daughters positon and her boyfriend's .He sounds like a great kid. He had a very difficult life and he is surviving thebest way he knows how. It sounds as though they do love each other, because they talk on a personal level, they spend quality time together, you have met him ( so they aren't a secret item), and both are still in school; meaning they aren't dropping out and planning to run away together. Now, he probably wants to stay in alot because he has to care for himself as an adult. Between work, bills, school, and no family support, he is exhausted. He is exhausted mentally, physically, emotionally, etc. He probably can't afford alot of extra activities that other kids take for granted. Such as the movies, dinners, clothes shopping. The other kids use their allowance for fun activities, he is using his money to keep a roof over his head and feed himself. With that in mind, your daughter doen't have to be his savior. If she feels she needs more from a relationship that includes more emotional support or just acting like a kid, she shouldn't stay with him. Also, I'm going to be frank and I do not mean to offend you, but they are having relations. Any two young teens in a relationship, where one individual has a place of their own without parental observation is having sex. Thats what teens do whether they are in love or not. They sneak out houses, manipulate emotions, lie about their whearabouts, and cover each other just to have sex with the ones they love. Now, it's great that your daughter is telling you about her relationship, which shows things are not as bad as it can be. You definitely want her to keep talking to you and comming to you for advice. However; you do not ( under any circumstances) want a child comming out of this relationship!!! I do not believe they would to that on purpose, but their are thousands of teenage boys and girls who didn't mean to have a baby. This boyfriend probably doesn't to be around her friends because he doesn't have the money for the activities. He also feels self conscious about his lack of family, clothes, and living arrangements. Teens at that age arentunderstanding to lack of money or amily. You could introduce activities to them that don't cost a lot of money or even free. For instance, seeing a matinee instead of regular priced movie, take walks in the park, go to the beach ( if one is near you), ride bikes, ride skateboard, go to out door concerts, go for pizza, etc.
    She is on the border of being in a controlling relationship. Again, I don't think he is doing it on purpose but the signs are starting to show. If your daughter wants out of the relationship and doesn't want to make it dramatic. She can do it slowly. Just stop spending as much time with him. For example, instead of four days a week, lessen it to two days, then one, then break up. She can say her activities and school are taking up too much time for a relationship or say she wants to spend more time with family. As a parent just be prepared for everything.
  • 1953Judith
    1953Judith Posts: 325 Member
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    I am sympathetic to the young man's situation and believe professionals should be brought in to provide him with help and guidance. You have raised a few red flags. Regardless, the slapping incident(s) are warnings about anger management. You also mentioned earlier that he has been impolite to you on occasion. You are an adult in his life and you have a relationship with him separate from your daughters and you owe it to him, yourself and your daughter to assert yourself when his behavior is unacceptable. Yes let her have her relationship, but I recommend that you do establish your own boundaries and rules with him and with her.
  • daryls
    daryls Posts: 260
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    At this age - the more you try and keep her away, the more she will want to be with him. This is a time for her to learn and grow as a person and begin to make her own decisions. You can let her know that you have concerns about how she seems to act differently when he's around - but I'd leave it at that.

    He sounds like a strong person who has a lot of growing up to do (but don't all 17 year olds?).

    People are mentioning abandonment issues - but I'm thinking it may be more attachment issues....
  • kimmie0627
    kimmie0627 Posts: 111 Member
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    Sounds like he might have some sort of social anxiety disorder. He's been through more than most people experience their entire lives. I'd be cautious but keep the communication with your daughter open.


    I have to agree with this. I had a simillar relationship in highschool about the same age too. My bf at the time had a simillar up bringing. I would definetly recommend keeping your communication with your daughter open. The fact she sees it is not healthy to stay in all the time is a good thing. Give it time.
  • Sd0510
    Sd0510 Posts: 295 Member
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    I don't think you're seeing the whole story... He doesn't "Do Nothing." He has raised himself, fed himself, clothed himself, managed to work from a young age to afford the bare minimum. He pays rent - at 17 years old. It's sad. He has far too much responsibility and hasn't had an opportunity to be a kid.

    It's likely he just loves her company, but may not have the money for the movies and social activities. That he's very socially awkward because of how he's been raised and what he's been exposed to.

    I can see how you're frustrated... but I'd let your daughter decide this for herself. If it bothers her, she should be the one to talk to him about it.

    Well, that's my rambling of opinions *LOL*

    I agree. For the past 3 years or so, I have barely left my house at all unless it involves going to the gym or college. My fiance is usually the one that goes shopping for us. This is not because I am controlling him or he is controlling me, but because I don't want to go out anywhere because I am self-consious. It sounds like he might be too.
  • lindsaykey
    lindsaykey Posts: 9 Member
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    Maybe he doesn't have the money to go out and do things all the time. Also, the time that she spends at his house may be the only time they are ever alone, and can relax with just each other. They both sound like good kids to me, and it could be much worse. Also, keep in mind that her friends probably probably give their opinions of him and their relationship constantly, so she does have advice coming from all directions. She sounds like a good kid, and just because she's young, I wouldn't put it past her to know what she's comfortable with and what she's not.
  • Kat_Howard25
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    You can't tell or force a teenager to do anything, being 25 myself it's not long since I was one and I remember it well.

    Trust her to make the right decisions for herself. If she is intelligent like you say, she will take the right path.

    When you are that age, first-time love can be all-consuming. I remember it well. When I was in a relationship with a guy at the age of 16-18 it was suffocating. We suffocated each other, never went anywhere or hung out with friends (sounds sort of like what your daughter and her boyfriend are doing). We didn't realise it then, but I'm so glad we parted now.

    Just don't worry. She will learn from it. She will make the right decision. Trust that, or you will risk pushing her further into his arms.
  • skinnyinnotime
    skinnyinnotime Posts: 4,141 Member
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    I don't think you're seeing the whole story... He doesn't "Do Nothing." He has raised himself, fed himself, clothed himself, managed to work from a young age to afford the bare minimum. He pays rent - at 17 years old. It's sad. He has far too much responsibility and hasn't had an opportunity to be a kid.

    It's likely he just loves her company, but may not have the money for the movies and social activities. That he's very socially awkward because of how he's been raised and what he's been exposed to.

    I can see how you're frustrated... but I'd let your daughter decide this for herself. If it bothers her, she should be the one to talk to him about it.

    Well, that's my rambling of opinions *LOL*

    Agreed. This boy has done himself proud in his circumstances, sounds like a strong character to me. What's so wrong about not wanting to socialise, we're all different!
  • kme2011
    kme2011 Posts: 100 Member
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    Befriend him. Make him feel apart of...not the family...but make him feel wanted. That way he has your respect as well. Saying anything negative about him might make her turn away from you. They probably just have their routine. If you become friends with him and than suggest things they might see it more as friendly encouragement.

    I agree.
  • bestrodeo
    bestrodeo Posts: 139 Member
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    I can see your concern for your daughter. I read your post, closed it out and thought about it. Let me start by saying I'm proud of the boyfriend anyone who would have been in his shoes would most likely ended up in jail, gangs, drugs, and dropped out of school. And the fact that he is willing to care for your daughter while supporting himself while still trying to finish school shows something for the kid.
    As long as you know your daughter isnt having sex or unprotected sex, being forced into doing anything she doesnt want to do I wouldnt have a problem with them hanging out at his place. If he is the one paying for their outings (movies, dinner, etc) I don't see a problem with getting a movie and going back to his place. Have you been to a theater lately? it almost costs more than filling up your car let alone if you get snacks so a movie at home is more reasonable for someone on a budget.
    As long as your daughter seems happy let em be, cause all youre going to do is force her into his arms if you try to break them up or tell her they need to slow down.

    Best of luck
  • charlotte66
    charlotte66 Posts: 248 Member
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    he dosnt sounds like a bad kid im sure your daughter could be with alot worse guys who are taking her to partys getting her drunk etc then that would be somthing to be annoyed about.

    as others have said maybe he dosnt have the money to go to the cinema and take her places, he sounds like he is doing his best at his age i know many kids wouldnt be able to do it! my mum chucked me out at 16 i had my daughter at 17 i lived alone for nearly 4 years before meeting my partner a year and abit ago and its hard even now i cant afford to go out with friends and im 21. let alone if i had to pay for school aswell

    your daughter sounds like a bright smart girl trust her desisions and if she wasnt happy she would makethe rite choice
  • kme2011
    kme2011 Posts: 100 Member
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    Maybe next time he's over for dinner or whatever and your daughter leaves the room ask him if you can talk and see if he's ok. maybe he just needs someone to really care about him and whats going on with him for a change. I can't imagine how he would feel. maybe hes just looking for that 'family" feeling he's never had with his own parents. Let him know if he needs anything u will do your best to help him. If you don't help him who else will? poor guy he sounds like he has a great head on his shoulders considering his past. have a family day and ask him to come along. You could do something that doesn't really cost him any money. like a picnic in the park or a walk. It might be nice for you to make a picnic dinner one night and send it with you daughter and tell him he has to take it to the park to eat it. I've been with my husband for 9 years and we hardly ever make it out of the house. even when we were dating. Neither of us could afford it. i can't imagine he would have to money to take your daughter out to a nice dinner. the litte things in life mean the most. just try to make him feel more like he's welcomed into your family.
  • Hoppymom
    Hoppymom Posts: 1,158 Member
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    You should definitely talk to your daughter and express your concerns. You should also sit down and talk to him. He seems like a pretty reasonable kid for everything he has been through. He may not realize what he is doing. He probably has a fear of abandonment and that is why he follows her around. If he is as good of a kid as you think he is and he cares about your daughter, then he will be genuinely interested in your concerns. Best of luck to you! I hope it turns out well. I empathize with you, your daughter, and her boyfriend so I really hope that this is easily resolved with an open, honest conversation.
    I agree. Talk with both of them, separately. Tell him that you like him but that you have concerns about the isolation that you see in their relationship. There are free things people can do to be together. (walks in the park, volunteering) He sounds like he has had a rough time and had developed some terrific coping skill. His upbringing may make him vulnerable to the possibility of becoming a controlling boyfriend/husband. It must feel like no one as ever truly loved him and now he has someone in his life that casre he probably wants to keep her close. Not healthy. If after speaking to them you do not see any results or if there is anger expressed I would definately talk to the school counselor ( or the police if there are threats made.) Yes, this IS your business! She is a minor and it is your responsibility to care for her and make sure that she is safe. Go with your gut instinct. If you are asking questions here then you have a real need to get this out in the open. Why on Earth has social services not been involved with this child. Your English is fine.
  • kme2011
    kme2011 Posts: 100 Member
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    Hello,
    I hope this helps your situation a little. I am also speaking from past experience of being on both sides of your daughters positon and her boyfriend's .He sounds like a great kid. He had a very difficult life and he is surviving thebest way he knows how. It sounds as though they do love each other, because they talk on a personal level, they spend quality time together, you have met him ( so they aren't a secret item), and both are still in school; meaning they aren't dropping out and planning to run away together. Now, he probably wants to stay in alot because he has to care for himself as an adult. Between work, bills, school, and no family support, he is exhausted. He is exhausted mentally, physically, emotionally, etc. He probably can't afford alot of extra activities that other kids take for granted. Such as the movies, dinners, clothes shopping. The other kids use their allowance for fun activities, he is using his money to keep a roof over his head and feed himself. With that in mind, your daughter doen't have to be his savior. If she feels she needs more from a relationship that includes more emotional support or just acting like a kid, she shouldn't stay with him. Also, I'm going to be frank and I do not mean to offend you, but they are having relations. Any two young teens in a relationship, where one individual has a place of their own without parental observation is having sex. Thats what teens do whether they are in love or not. They sneak out houses, manipulate emotions, lie about their whearabouts, and cover each other just to have sex with the ones they love. Now, it's great that your daughter is telling you about her relationship, which shows things are not as bad as it can be. You definitely want her to keep talking to you and comming to you for advice. However; you do not ( under any circumstances) want a child comming out of this relationship!!! I do not believe they would to that on purpose, but their are thousands of teenage boys and girls who didn't mean to have a baby. This boyfriend probably doesn't to be around her friends because he doesn't have the money for the activities. He also feels self conscious about his lack of family, clothes, and living arrangements. Teens at that age arentunderstanding to lack of money or amily. You could introduce activities to them that don't cost a lot of money or even free. For instance, seeing a matinee instead of regular priced movie, take walks in the park, go to the beach ( if one is near you), ride bikes, ride skateboard, go to out door concerts, go for pizza, etc.
    She is on the border of being in a controlling relationship. Again, I don't think he is doing it on purpose but the signs are starting to show. If your daughter wants out of the relationship and doesn't want to make it dramatic. She can do it slowly. Just stop spending as much time with him. For example, instead of four days a week, lessen it to two days, then one, then break up. She can say her activities and school are taking up too much time for a relationship or say she wants to spend more time with family. As a parent just be prepared for everything.

    great advice
  • branflake5
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    Let her decide if this is okay for her or not. He doesn't sound like a bad kid.

    Must agree on that 100%... . But do tell your daughter not to Pay when they do go out... that is a NO NO....If he wants a GF he has to be respectful to her and pay her way if they do go out... not her paying for him... nada....

    I disagree that he should always have to pay for her when or if they go out. I don't see anything wrong with an independent woman or young woman in this case paying for activities, especially in this situation. I don't see it as he is taking advantage of her because "she pays sometimes when he lets her". I think that would be normal. It's not like she is paying his rent and giving him gas money and buying him groceries. That would be taking advantage of her, it sounds to me like they are 2 kids dating, when I was in high school neither me or my boyfriend had a lot of money to spend and we lived with our parents still, and we put whatever cash we had together to go do what we wanted.