Obesity and being beautiful. Same thing or not?

I think you can be beautiful but still be unhealthy. so no they aren't the same thing-beauty shouldn't really be dependent on how healthy you are. Do I think healthier people are more attractive? Yes. Do I think healthier people are more beautiful? No, because that's not what I define beauty as!
I wish that people would see each other as beautiful because of the fact of who they are, not what shape they are. I also think beauty and value are so closely tied together today, that to insult a person's beauty is to insult their value..which isn't ever okay in my opinion. so...my two cents... I think every person is beautiful because he/she is a person, and we can't devalue someone for how they look.

I promote loving yourself if you can, but I definitely do not promote "fat love." Being fat is a miserable life, and if we stay fat, we're going to die. There's nothing sexy about that.

Coming from someone who used to be morbidly obese, I can say with a difinitive fact that beauty and obesity are separate and that while a person can be beautiful, their choices are not. People that big are not really happy, no matter how much they tell you they are. If they think they are, they are lying to themselves while slowly murdering their body. I will tell someone they are beautiful but unhealthy, but then I will share my story and how I can relate.

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THIS!

Wow, a perfect testimony.
I think of the comedian Louie Anderson. His whole set was nothing but fat jokes about himself, and we all laughed.
Remember?

Then he lost the fat, wrote a book talking about how miserable he really was and how the jokes made him feel terrible.
He did it, because he knew making a buffoon of himself would get laughs and make money.

And then poor Louie gained the weight back, then went right back to the buffoon bit, making fun of himself and telling fat jokes.
And most people forgot all about his admissions.

I never did, because I could totally relate. And I won't watch him perform, because I know how much it hurts.

I promote minding your own business if the body doesn't personally belong to you, frankly.

Eh, no. because some people will rationalize being obese as ok, where they need people who know it's not ok to kick them into gear.

You don't know where people are on their journey. Your "kicking them into gear" can do more harm than good. Not everyone is a tough love kind of person.

Defining beauty is as nonsensical as it is too have discussions about which religion is the right religion, politics or any thing else that is solely based on perspective.

It is ignorant to say that not every one is considered beautiful, it is not ignorant to say "Not every one is considered beautiful based on my standards." But to state it as a universal truth that is simply asinine simply due to circumstances and relationships with people who are deemed ugly yet their partners are sexually attracted to them and consider them beautiful.

It is subjective and all a matter of perspective. There is no way it is a universal truth if the causal relationship proves otherwise, meaning there are what you consider "ugly" people who are highly attractive to other people.

I have seen 100lb men with 400lb woman who think that their woman are walking Goddesses (or at least on the couch Goddesses).

That brings me to the next point. There is no way that as a society that we can agree on terms of what we consider beauty when it is based on perception of the individual.

For instance; I find blonde woman to be unattractive, I argue about this with my wife all the time. I think in my experience it is about 1 to 2 % of the blonde woman I see as I recognize as beautiful. I cannot even name a current actress who is blonde who I consider beautiful. I dont know, its nothing personal maybe I just find being blonde to being an unwanted genetic flaw that tells me that particular woman is not capable of survival.

The idea of beauty has changed drastically, pre modern society the notion of beauty was child bearing characteristics and fertility which meant wide hips, big butts and large breasts. I find myself falling into that category more than anything, I think its an instinctual thing to be attracted to woman with large breasts, large hips and large butts, while skinny woman just simply dont do it for me. I am not attracted to obese woman by any means but I am also not attracted to muscle cut woman or skinny either.

So in conclusion;

The statement "Not everyone is beautiful" is not a universal truth it is simply an opinion which in my opinion is a funny opinion because ...duh.. everyone is not attracted to everyone...

How do you think I got my wife, I am one fugly looking dude, my wife thinks I am sexay.

I've seen some large women and men who are very attractive and beautiful but then they lose a lot of weight and lose alot of their beauty for some reason. I think Star Jones was absolutely beautiful when she was bigger and now looks awful. Some people just look better bigger.

You also have to seperate Health and Beauty. Being healthy does not make you beautiful.

Agreed. Every now and then, I see a B/A post on the success stories board where I think they actually looked better before (not that I would say that because that would be a pretty douchey move). I've seen people that looked terrible before and gorgeous after, people who were attractive before AND after and people who weren't attractive before OR after. Obesity doesn't automatically equal ugly and skinny does not automatically equal beautiful.

Do I think everyone is beautiful? No, but just because I don't find someone beautiful doesn't mean there isn't someone out there who does. Beauty is all about opinion, not facts.

Being healthy and being beautiful are not necessarily related. You can be unhealthy and beautiful or ugly and quite healthy. There are skinny and fat people in both categories.

Also, I feel like there are overweight people (perhaps not morbidly obese people) who are pretty healthy in a lot of ways.... considering that a size 10 in our society is usually classified as overweight. Not everyone who is overweight has hypertension or diabetes. Some people are just bigger people.

how rude. its funny that the one person on here that is talking about how not everyone is beautiful....is not the most attractive person either lol

This response is ugly.

id say its not the response that is truly ugly,,think its the person itself,,, hurtfull words, coming right back at her,,sad, to see people like this on here!!!! its the first time actually i see anegative comment on here,,,, always a first time to everything they say,,,,

LOL couldn't see this yesterday when I was @ work. Thanks for proving the point :laugh: