Eating enough to lose weight??...sent by a bootcamp instruct

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  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    I run numbers daily for friends on MFP and they are losing weight between 1600-2700 calories.
    This stuff works.
    One thing to remember though is you wont see much scale movement for a while.
    Most of the effects of this will be in body fat %.
    is this the forumla you use to help friends set up their numbers?

    I have a dietary calc I use for different types of diets.
    It has settings for cuts, bulks, IF and concurrent fat loss/lean mass gains.
    So far its been accurate as long as the person who gives me their stats has a proper body fat%.
  • SamHughes15
    SamHughes15 Posts: 149 Member
    Phew! just did this and it came up with 1027 i was like OMG! but then realised i added my weight instead of multiply :blushing:
    Yeah its too early in the morning for math lol!
  • rockerbabyy
    rockerbabyy Posts: 2,258 Member
    I run numbers daily for friends on MFP and they are losing weight between 1600-2700 calories.
    This stuff works.
    One thing to remember though is you wont see much scale movement for a while.
    Most of the effects of this will be in body fat %.
    is this the forumla you use to help friends set up their numbers?

    I have a dietary calc I use for different types of diets.
    It has settings for cuts, bulks, IF and concurrent fat loss/lean mass gains.
    So far its been accurate as long as the person who gives me their stats has a proper body fat%.
    ah ok - i would ask you to help but i have no idea what my BF% is... i did a handheld thing at my gym at the beginning on jan but i dunno how accurate that is
  • ladyraven68
    ladyraven68 Posts: 2,003 Member
    Those numbers make sense

    BMR ( the first calculation) is the amount you would need if you were in a coma.
    TDEE - after applying the lifestyle multiplier is your daily calorie requirements.

    To lose weight you shoud be eating somewhere between the 2.

    I was concerned when MFP set me at 1200 to lose even a lb a week, as it was below my BMR, and therefore not healthy, in my opinion. plus I was feeling lightheaded on 1200.

    So, my numbers have been worked, increased substantially, and I am going to give them a go.

    I am not going to weigh in for a month, as I know my body is going to react to the extra calories initially, but then hopefully it will all start working again, and my fat% will reduce, whilst keeping my lean tissue.
  • amylynna1
    amylynna1 Posts: 152 Member
    I know these number seemed shockingly high to me too! I was used to consuming 1300-1400 Then when I figured in my workouts at a moderate activity level height and weight, it said I should be eating over 2300! BUT that is to maintain,. so I subtracted the 500 calories to loose and it still said 1800. I was shocked!

    I will admit that I am a little nervous to go from 1300 to 1800 so I will just start it at 1600 and see how this works.

    NOW REMEMBER this is figuring in your exercise. so I burn 400-600 calories 5 days a week.

    I know there are alot of people who fear this and I do kinda as well but I know I am WORKING hard in my bootcamps and I need to give my body the nutrition it needs. Several women both much bigger and much small them me swear by this as long as you are working out hard, they say its the best way to drop fat and gain muscles.

    So here I go! I will report back on my progress!

    Wish me luck
  • amylynna1
    amylynna1 Posts: 152 Member
    Did you subtract 500 cals for loss?
  • amylynna1
    amylynna1 Posts: 152 Member
    Is there usually a gain before the loss begins if you haven't been eating this way previously? I just want to be prepared.

    According to the formula, my number was 2318. On MFP, my daily caloric intake is 1310 before exercise. I burn around 600-700 calories 5 days per week, Around 400-500 on the weekends. I weigh 156 and want to weigh 128, so I used the numbers for my goal, rather than my current weight.

    I'm a bit worried about eating more, but I'm pretty stalled on my weight loss at the moment and am willing to try it.

    Worth a shot...right? I am trying it. Just make sure you continue to workout as hard as you indicated the the equation. Keep me posted and I will let you know if it works for me too!
  • amylynna1
    amylynna1 Posts: 152 Member
    Thank you for sharing! But it seems kind of counter-intuitive. Why are anorexic people so thin, then? It just basically comes down to calories in, calories out.

    Im not sure but I know I dont want to be anorexic or thin I want to be strong and tone. I dont want to be a thin "fat" person. You know weigh very little but have little muscle. My goal is to have more muscle and look tone. Its worth a shot. I will let you know if it works!

    THANKS!
  • neanderthin
    neanderthin Posts: 10,223 Member
    Sounds nifty, but wrong. That mechanism causes adaptive thermogenesis, not weight gain. It appears even people that call themselves experts need to do a bit more due diligence before they actually start to preach on paper.
    When we under eat, we have a pretty nifty survival mechanism that kicks in.

    The body actually thinks that there is a food shortage and a famine is coming (read up on Epigenetics for this one).

    So, if you are trying to starve yourself skinny a couple of days out of the week,

    even the very few calories that you do eat will be stored as fat because your body thinks that it needs those calories for survival later.
  • amylynna1
    amylynna1 Posts: 152 Member
    BMR calculation for men BMR = 66.5 + ( 13.75 x weight in kg ) + ( 5.003 x height in cm ) – ( 6.755 x age in years )
    BMR calculation for men BMR = 66 + ( 6.23 x weight in pounds ) + ( 12.7 x height in inches ) – ( 6.76 x age in years )
    BMR calculation for women BMR = 655.1 + ( 9.563 x weight in kg ) + ( 1.850 x height in cm ) – ( 4.676 x age in years )
    BMR calculation for women BMR = 655 + ( 4.35 x weight in pounds ) + ( 4.7 x height in inches ) – ( 4.7 x age in years )

    Little to no exercise Daily calories needed = BMR x 1.2
    Light exercise (1–3 days per week) Daily calories needed = BMR x 1.375
    Moderate exercise (3–5 days per week) Daily calories needed = BMR x 1.55
    Heavy exercise (6–7 days per week) Daily calories needed = BMR x 1.725
    Very heavy exercise (twice per day, extra heavy workouts) Daily calories needed = BMR x 1.9

    These are without any calorie deficit also!!!! So if you have your goal weight loss set to any thing but zero on my fitness pal it will not be the same number you get with these. These numbers are to maintain your weight! remember 3500 = 1lb. So this means you would have a 500 calorie deficit per day for 7 days for 3500 calories in total !

    These are what you need the numbers used seem a little off these are more accurate

    Hopefully this helps everyone!

    Also by the way. This is how it works. These numbers are not very accurate they are off 100-300 calories depending on the person. Don't over exaggerate your exercise!!.

    thanks for the clarification! This is all new to me but I am willing to give it a shot!
  • snlperdue93
    snlperdue93 Posts: 210 Member
    This is exactly my problem. I got so busy running my 4 kids around and going to school full time that I started to forget to eat until 7PM. My doctor had me go for a week like normal to track my calorie intake and I was only eating 500-600 calories per day, but I was full all the time. As of Monday, she has me on 1200 calories per day and I am having to force myself to eat (which is why I do mostly meal replacement shakes to add calories and nutrition).

    My number came up at 2910.59. So, with the doctor having me on 1200 calories a day, does that mean that I am still under eating? I'm not sure I can eat any more without adding empty calories like candy or soft drinks.
  • getfitnfab
    getfitnfab Posts: 418 Member
    Interesting read
  • ttkg
    ttkg Posts: 357 Member
    Bumping for later as my sleep addled brain is not making sense of this. Thanks for sharing!
  • tammeegirl
    tammeegirl Posts: 27 Member
    OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG......I would be a porker eating 2462 calories, I am 47 yrs old, 5'5" and weigh 188. Not to mention I would vomit if I had to cram all those calories in a day, I have trouble eating the 1500-1600 calories (with exercise) that MFP says I should.....NOPE!!!!
  • Jenny_MSW
    Jenny_MSW Posts: 109 Member
    People suffering from anorexia usually are eating less than 500 calories each day and have horrible physical, mental, and emotional side effects... not really comparable to this.
  • JeSuisPrest
    JeSuisPrest Posts: 2,005 Member
    Great information, backs up what a few of my MFP friends have been telling me~~
  • twentytwobecky
    twentytwobecky Posts: 35 Member
    Everybody's body is different, but your formula works for me. I'm at 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fat, and I'm finally losing pounds by upping my calories.
  • iwillsoonbeslim
    iwillsoonbeslim Posts: 283
    I'm totally confused, I got 1018, but others have got MUCH higher.
    Gawd only knows - I'll be sticking to what MFP tells me, works well for me!

    EDIT: Must have done it wrong, I'm getting 2421....can't believe I could go from netting 12/1400 to 2421 and continue to lose? Unless it means JUST EAT 2421, which is roughly my intake each day. In which case it's probably much the same as what MFP already tells us :)
  • ttillman19
    ttillman19 Posts: 54 Member
    This formula for me only was 70 calories more a day than on MFP. Plus remember this is to maintain, not lose or gain.
  • sandimack
    sandimack Posts: 136 Member
    So, give your body the right nutrients in the right portions (40% protein, 40% low glycemic carbs and 20% fats), eat at least 5 times per day and...

    Can I change this on my profile? How? I can see how to up my calories but not this.

    Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed it. I've been doing bootcamp since July 1, 2011 and LOVE IT!! I'm addicted!
  • Jenny_MSW
    Jenny_MSW Posts: 109 Member
    So, give your body the right nutrients in the right portions (40% protein, 40% low glycemic carbs and 20% fats), eat at least 5 times per day and...

    Can I change this on my profile? How? I can see how to up my calories but not this.

    Thanks for the post, I really enjoyed it. I've been doing bootcamp since July 1, 2011 and LOVE IT!! I'm addicted!

    Yes, under "Home" at the top, click on "Goals" then you can edit your goals and change them by percentages.
  • needlework
    needlework Posts: 141 Member
    bump
  • mrscherry1
    mrscherry1 Posts: 80
    trying to respond to post
  • mrscherry1
    mrscherry1 Posts: 80
    I run numbers daily for friends on MFP and they are losing weight between 1600-2700 calories.
    This stuff works.
    One thing to remember though is you wont see much scale movement for a while.
    Most of the effects of this will be in body fat %.
    Can you run numbers for me??? This get soooo confusing at times!!! lol :flowerforyou:
  • FITnFIRM4LIFE
    FITnFIRM4LIFE Posts: 818 Member
    Good post!
  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    I run numbers daily for friends on MFP and they are losing weight between 1600-2700 calories.
    This stuff works.
    One thing to remember though is you wont see much scale movement for a while.
    Most of the effects of this will be in body fat %.
    Can you run numbers for me??? This get soooo confusing at times!!! lol :flowerforyou:

    PM me

    Age
    Height
    Weight
    Body Fat% (Use Fat to Fit Military Calculator if you dont know it)
    Waist measurement
    How often you work out

    I'll see what I can do!
  • skinnyme47
    skinnyme47 Posts: 802 Member
    bump
  • tmm01
    tmm01 Posts: 137
    I got 2218cals. I think that is rather high. Currently on 1200cals per day. I'm sure I would put on if I ate that number.
  • magikfairygirl
    magikfairygirl Posts: 153
    Thanks for sharing
  • jenncaroon
    jenncaroon Posts: 91
    bump for later
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