How bad is diet coke for me?
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It probably won't kill you. For all the bad things said about diet coke, I have yet to meet a single person in real life who has had any adverse effect from it whatsoever. So until there is some real consensus that it is bad, I'll say keep drinking, but if you are drinking them all day long and can't stop, maybe you have a problem with diet coke.
Raises hand!! Aspartame gives me hives...I can't even have yoplait light - I get the stoneyfield organic
(Pricier)
Also, I'm sorry but this stuff is crap. Even if it is safe it was never approved by the FDA in the quantities that many american's now drink it. Even if it is safe the more than sketchy approval process by the FDA is enough to make your head spin and wonder. (IE We may just not know) Further studies in 2010 have linked 2 sodas a day to an 87% increased risk of pancreatic cancer.
Really is this worth the risk?
Not to mention I do believe drinking that crap makes you crave other less healthy...crap.0 -
It probably won't kill you. For all the bad things said about diet coke, I have yet to meet a single person in real life who has had any adverse effect from it whatsoever. So until there is some real consensus that it is bad, I'll say keep drinking, but if you are drinking them all day long and can't stop, maybe you have a problem with diet coke.
Raises hand!! Aspartame gives me hives...I can't even have yoplait light - I get the stoneyfield organic (Pricier)
Also, I'm sorry but this stuff is crap. Even if it is safe it was never approved by the FDA in the quantities that many american's now drink it. Even if it is safe the more than sketchy approval process by the FDA is enough to make your head spin and wonder. (IE We may just not know) Further studies in 2010 have linked 2 sodas a day to an 87% increased risk of pancreatic cancer.
Really is this worth the risk?
Not to mention I do believe drinking that crap makes you crave other less healthy...crap.
The FDA actually rejected aspartame as a food additive multiple times in the 70s! Then a man (I forget his name) got pushy enough & wormed his way into the system & got it approved.0 -
Here in England two of the three major Supermarkets have stopped using Aspartame in their diet products. One of them even states on the label of their products 'we do not use NASTIES like Aspartame'. The makers of Aspartame told them it's ok not to use our product but you must remove that statement about it being a nasty from your labels or you will find yourself in court. The Supermarket said, we're happy to be taken to court. The Aspartame makers shut the f**k up and said no more. Why didn't they want their day in court to disprove once and for all these myths?
Now that Stevia has finally been allowed onto the market you will probably find Aspartame will shrink and die. The Coca Cola company already have a large number of patents pending on their products containing Stevia.
As for the scientists studies saying Aspartame is jolly good, they could be correct, then again they have to be funded by someone.
Once upon a time they told us cigarettes were harmless too.
It's a personal choice but if you want my advice, I'd stick to water. Or Cognac. :-)0 -
Moderation is the key word.0
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It probably won't kill you. For all the bad things said about diet coke, I have yet to meet a single person in real life who has had any adverse effect from it whatsoever. So until there is some real consensus that it is bad, I'll say keep drinking, but if you are drinking them all day long and can't stop, maybe you have a problem with diet coke.
Raises hand!! Aspartame gives me hives...I can't even have yoplait light - I get the stoneyfield organic (Pricier)
Also, I'm sorry but this stuff is crap. Even if it is safe it was never approved by the FDA in the quantities that many american's now drink it. Even if it is safe the more than sketchy approval process by the FDA is enough to make your head spin and wonder. (IE We may just not know) Further studies in 2010 have linked 2 sodas a day to an 87% increased risk of pancreatic cancer.
Really is this worth the risk?
Not to mention I do believe drinking that crap makes you crave other less healthy...crap.
I have met many people allergic to peanuts, yet people don't tell us to abolish peanuts or that we shouldn't eat peanuts (if we aren't obviously allergic). And it literally takes me thousands of people to find one person who has any bad reaction to aspartame. That kinda solidifies my point.0 -
Its low in calories sure, but drinking one glass a day can increase your chance of heart attack and stroke! I was addicted to coke zero until I heard this!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/health/sns-rt-us-soda-diettre81j039-20120219,0,2218976.story0 -
It probably won't kill you. For all the bad things said about diet coke, I have yet to meet a single person in real life who has had any adverse effect from it whatsoever. So until there is some real consensus that it is bad, I'll say keep drinking, but if you are drinking them all day long and can't stop, maybe you have a problem with diet coke.
Raises hand!! Aspartame gives me hives...I can't even have yoplait light - I get the stoneyfield organic (Pricier)
Also, I'm sorry but this stuff is crap. Even if it is safe it was never approved by the FDA in the quantities that many american's now drink it. Even if it is safe the more than sketchy approval process by the FDA is enough to make your head spin and wonder. (IE We may just not know) Further studies in 2010 have linked 2 sodas a day to an 87% increased risk of pancreatic cancer.
Really is this worth the risk?
Not to mention I do believe drinking that crap makes you crave other less healthy...crap.
The FDA actually rejected aspartame as a food additive multiple times in the 70s! Then a man (I forget his name) got pushy enough & wormed his way into the system & got it approved.
I think it was the chairman of "G.d Searle and company" (Donald Rumsfeld?) who first got it approved, from a 5 voting commission it was first outlawed by 3-2 but a sixth assessor was brought in to make it a deadlock at 3-3 and after a re vote it was 4-2 in favour, I'm not saying it was rigged but seems a little suspicious lol.0 -
I like my diet coke, I usually try to limit myself though.
Have any of you tried the diet coke cupcakes? YUM.0 -
One of my really good friends used to drink nothing but Diet Coke. She has neck and shoulder spasms from it. All the time, like she clenches her neck and shoulders up, it happens a few times a day. I guess fom the aspartame she said? So she drink regular coke now LOL
Have you tried Zevia? It's made from Stevia, a natural sweetener and I think the cola takes JUST like Coke!0 -
lol According to the "experts" in this site, it is harmless and you should drink 24 cans a day, one each hour.
According to the dumbasses who write articles online, HealthMagazine, and all those who talk about researches online, you shouldn't drink them at all because they will, somehow, affect you in many ways. Then again, the "experts" in MFP say those articles are not legit and you shouldn't pay attention to them :bigsmile:0 -
VERY BAD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Diet sodas don't contain too much calories and sugar, but they do have some sorts of other things that replace sugar and they are very bad for your health and your dieting....so, try to drink more water and reduce any kind of sodas.0
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I switched from regular to diet soda when I started losing weight. I was serioulsly addicted to pop. It helped me as I transitioned to a healthier lifestyle, but I have since given it up too. I think the biggest problem is the artificial sweeteners can in fact INCREASE your sugar cravings, are not good for you, and soda in general is a dehydrator. That being said, I think baby steps is the goal. 2 glasses a day won't hurt you, especially if it does not REPLACE your water. IF you drank only diet pop, then, yes, that could be bad for you. But if it helps you through the day and takes care of your cravings, then go for it..just make sure to still drink your water and eat well. The best thing would be to try to get yourself completely off the stuff. It may not be "awful" for you, but it isn't good for you either. I have a regular coke every once in a while if I want one, but for me, the diet did cause me to have anxiety, dizziness, and soreness in my arms and chest. Wierd, I know. Aspartame made my mom forgetful. Coke zero did similar things to me, so i think I just can't handle awtificial sweeteners. Like I said, I feel we all have to come to a healthier lifestyle in steps. But yes, it would be better to not drink soda at all.0
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its not great for you, but probably not as bad as a lot of the other stuff I know I used to eat way too much of. I don't drink as much diet soda as I used to, but I do like it and enjoy some now and then. Everything in moderation....if all you're drinking is diet soda, maybe you'd want to re think that. But if you're enjoying reasonable amounts, I wouldn't worry about it too much. If I had to just stop eating everything I like, and tell myself I could never have them again, I wouldn't be able to stick to any kind of healthy plan. I'd just feel deprived....and resentful. SO...a diet coke now and then, a bit of chocolate now and then....everything in moderation and with perspective.0
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I drink water throughout the day, but for the most part I need to have my carbonated beverage when having a meal. It's not a caffeine thing, just a carbonation thing. I normally will drink Market Pantry's Sparkling Water (Target brand). They're flavored (I prefer lemon-lime)and contain little to no sodium at all, which is a significant difference to diet sodas. But, when dining out I do have to go with a diet coke (unless having a beer, lol).
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There have been a few studies on diet sodas being linked to declining kidney function. Something to look into. I steer clear of them just because I think the closer to natural, the better. Water is my drink of choice.0
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Ain't nothing like the real thing... LOL. I frequently shop at Whole Foods and people that eat whole do not eat that fake crap. Sodas = empty calories, but hey I drink one a day and am still losing. You have to get close with water.0
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I am confused about diet coke is it as bad as drinking regular soda? People tell me mixed things I have 1 can for dinner and 1 can for lunch ..but I also drink plenty of water..should I eliminate it out of my diet?
I'm not even reading through this thread because I can imagine the range of responses you got. There are a lot of people who think any soda is the devil and will tell you it doesn't count as a hydrating beverage.
The bottom line is studies have shown that drinking (or eating) artificial sweeteners triggers something in the brain that makes people want to eat more because the brain wants real sugar. If you're able to drink your diet sodas without going over calories and you enjoy them, then drink them. They will hydrate you just fine.
Are they the best and healthiest choice of beverage? Certainly not. But plenty of people are thin, fit and healthy who drink them daily.0 -
I enjoy drinking Diet Coke, but have cut down to an average of 1 per day.
I am thinking of striking it entirely from my diet due to research indicating a fairly substantial increase in the risk of developing certain cancers after a certain threshold is reached in the ratio between aspartame and body mass.
One Diet Coke contains about 200mg of aspartame, which, for most people, is below the observed threshold for an increase in cancer risk, which was 20mg/Kg. For instance, I am ~72.5Kg so one Diet Coke would put me at about 2.75 mg/Kg.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1392271/
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It probably won't kill you. For all the bad things said about diet coke, I have yet to meet a single person in real life who has had any adverse effect from it whatsoever. So until there is some real consensus that it is bad, I'll say keep drinking, but if you are drinking them all day long and can't stop, maybe you have a problem with diet coke.
Raises hand!! Aspartame gives me hives...I can't even have yoplait light - I get the stoneyfield organic (Pricier)
Also, I'm sorry but this stuff is crap. Even if it is safe it was never approved by the FDA in the quantities that many american's now drink it. Even if it is safe the more than sketchy approval process by the FDA is enough to make your head spin and wonder. (IE We may just not know) Further studies in 2010 have linked 2 sodas a day to an 87% increased risk of pancreatic cancer.
Really is this worth the risk?
Not to mention I do believe drinking that crap makes you crave other less healthy...crap.
The FDA actually rejected aspartame as a food additive multiple times in the 70s! Then a man (I forget his name) got pushy enough & wormed his way into the system & got it approved.
I think it was the chairman of "G.d Searle and company" (Donald Rumsfeld?) who first got it approved, from a 5 voting commission it was first outlawed by 3-2 but a sixth assessor was brought in to make it a deadlock at 3-3 and after a re vote it was 4-2 in favour, I'm not saying it was rigged but seems a little suspicious lol.
EVERYTHING about the FDA is suspicious. It is run by former and/or current representatives of the very companies the FDA was built to protect us against. The majority of the high-ups aren't looking out for the health & wellbeing of the public, they are looking out for the companies they are allied with, or in some cases even work for! It's disgusting if you start digging into who actually passes laws for food-they aren't out to help us, they are out to make money. Most of them anyway.0 -
I don't think a diet pop once in awhile will kill you. Majority of stuff is so processed hear days. Besides, what the hell would I mix my alcohol with0
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lol According to the "experts" in this site, it is harmless and you should drink 24 cans a day, one each hour.
According to the dumbasses who write articles online, HealthMagazine, and all those who talk about researches online, you shouldn't drink them at all because they will, somehow, affect you in many ways. Then again, the "experts" in MFP say those articles are not legit and you shouldn't pay attention to them :bigsmile:
Mmmmmm. And if you actually read what the "experts" on this site are saying, none of them are saying you should drink 24 cans a day. Nor do they say that all online articles are written by "dumbasses" and that you should ignore everything you read online. Why don't you actually read what people write instead of jumping to conclusions?
Most "experts" I read on here advocate a concept called "moderation" even if they don't spell that concept out. It applies to so much more than just eat the occasional sweet. It means you don't buy into the alarmist bull****... and you don't buy into the there's an easy secret to weight loss mentality either. You stick to the middle, use common sense, eat reasonably healthy, exercise, and you don't make your life impossibly difficult by adhering to a complex list of "thou shall" and "thou shall nots".0 -
This little video summed it up for me
http://youtu.be/hpoAtwVyzZI 0 -
Honestly, both are bad for you.....anything but water is bad for you. In fact, water is sometimes bad for you to if it comes from tap. It depends on what YOU want to drink. There will be tons of people telling you diet soda is the devil and regular soda is the way to go....i personally don't want to give up soda just yet and i don't want to take in those extra calories, so i drink diet. For those who say you don't lose weight on diet, my dad switched to diet dr pepper and kept the same eating habits and LOST 15 pounds.0
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I don't think a diet pop once in awhile will kill you. Majority of stuff is so processed hear days. Besides, what the hell would I mix my alcohol with
Just mix it with more alcohol....isn't that what everyone does? lol0 -
lol According to the "experts" in this site, it is harmless and you should drink 24 cans a day, one each hour.
According to the dumbasses who write articles online, HealthMagazine, and all those who talk about researches online, you shouldn't drink them at all because they will, somehow, affect you in many ways. Then again, the "experts" in MFP say those articles are not legit and you shouldn't pay attention to them :bigsmile:
Mmmmmm. And if you actually read what the "experts" on this site are saying, none of them are saying you should drink 24 cans a day. Nor do they say that all online articles are written by "dumbasses" and that you should ignore everything you read online. Why don't you actually read what people write instead of jumping to conclusions?
Most "experts" I read on here advocate a concept called "moderation" even if they don't spell that concept out. It applies to so much more than just eat the occasional sweet. It means you don't buy into the alarmist bull****... and you don't buy into the there's an easy secret to weight loss mentality either. You stick to the middle, use common sense, eat reasonably healthy, exercise, and you don't make your life impossibly difficult by adhering to a complex list of "thou shall" and "thou shall nots".
To be a LabRat it seems you don't get sarcasm that much, if any at all. The 24 cans a day was sarcasm since you did get that. And about the articles online, I don't know what threads you've been reading, but only the ones "they" read, are the right ones. So why don't YOU actually read what people right instead of jumping to conclusions?
About moderation, that's mainly those who aren't the "experts" here, which is true, moderation is a key, but denying this crap like diet soda is completely harmless, is total BS.
Now, before you actually try to correct me and say I'm talking nonsense, please, either READ the replies and stupidity people post in the threads, or don't try to correct me.0 -
Diet coke has aspartame. When aspartame is digested it is turned into FORMALDEHYDE. INSIDE YOUR BODY!!!
Your body makes formaldehyde all the time, whether you drink diet soda or not. It's a natural by product of human metabolism. Got any other wildly inaccurate inflammatory scare tactics to throw out?
No need to jump me. I've done some reading up on aspartame & formaldehyde. I know I have trace amounts in my body, but it is still a toxin, plain and simple. We also create ammonia-would you like to drink a little bit of that every day? I personally avoid aspartame because I'd rather not increase the levels of formadlehyde in my body. Just like I keep myself well hydrated to flush out ammonia & other such byproducts of my metabolism. Thank you very much for your little attack. But I'm entitled to my own researched opinions.
Fresh fruit contains much higher concentrations of formaldehyde and methanol than you will get from any diet soda. Using your logic, you should probably stop eating fruit then, as well.
Most meats and nuts contain much higher levels as well, since the ingredients in aspartame are amino acids that are found in much higher concentrations in food than in soda, you will create much more of the dreaded formaldehyde and methanol just by eating.
My research has shown that some foods contain formaldehyde when the sugars have been irradiated, while others contain it naturally. The naturally occuring formaldehyde obviously isn't harmful as your body is able to process it since it is in such small amounts, but the foods that have been tampered with contain a type of formaldehyde that is mutagenic. Therefore, diet pops and other foods that contain the adative of aspartame-which upon being digested turns to the "bad" form of formaldehyde (and it creates more than our bodies can process)-can be and are dangerous to many people.
But this really isn't worth fighting about back & forth: to each their own! I will continue to avoid aspartame
I see a disconnect here. You're talking about irradiating sugar, but then talking about aspartame. Aspartame isn't irradiated sugar, it isn't ANY kind of sugar. Aspartame is protein.0 -
Ain't nothing like the real thing... LOL. I frequently shop at Whole Foods and people that eat whole do not eat that fake crap. Sodas = empty calories, but hey I drink one a day and am still losing. You have to get close with water.
If people don't eat that "fake crap," then why does Whole Foods sell regular and diet soda?0 -
To be a LabRat it seems you don't get sarcasm that much, if any at all. The 24 cans a day was sarcasm since you did get that. And about the articles online, I don't know what threads you've been reading, but only the ones "they" read, are the right ones. So why don't YOU actually read what people right instead of jumping to conclusions?
About moderation, that's mainly those who aren't the "experts" here, which is true, moderation is a key, but denying this crap like diet soda is completely harmless, is total BS.
Now, before you actually try to correct me and say I'm talking nonsense, please, either READ the replies and stupidity people post in the threads, or don't try to correct me.
Your so write!0
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