Does it REALLY matter where calories come from?
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We have all the sensible answers we need on this thread, and a heck of a lot that no-one needs. Can someone please, for the love of cheese, shut this thread down!0
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It TOTALLY matters. What you eat either increases insulin dramatically and prohibits your body's ability to fight fat, or boosts your metabolism and gives you proper nutrients!!0
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Really??? Where ever did you get that idea????? SMHYou can lose weight eating just junk food, but the body burns healthy food twice as quickly...0 -
You can lose weight eating just junk food, but the body burns healthy food twice as quickly...
Please explain, if you do not mind.0 -
Ok...I constantly see posts about how it doesn't matter where cals come from...but I'm finding either I have a grave misunderstanding of this or its just not true. Last week I stayed under my cals the majority of the week and lost no weight. But I ate a lot of sugary things (something I didn't think about until this morning).
So I guess the question is...even if you're under your cals can too much sugar negate the cal deficit?
Consider that sugar kills your body's ability to know when it is full. Fake sugars are three times sweeter than regular sugars, so they literally do three times the damage.
You will be constantly feeling unsatisfied.
Yes, it really does matter where the calories come from. Nutrient content is essential to the body being satisfied. You can have something with 2 cups of bleached white flour - with fake nutrients added into it. Your body will be unsatisfied. You can have 2 cups of whole wheat or whole spelt flour. "Whole" means it contains the "germ."
The germ is removed, generally speaking, because it allows white flour to have a longer shelf life. Trouble is - that's where all the good stuff is. All the nutrients.
Consider, back in the hippie days when Wheat Germ was all the rage. It really is nutrient packed. But we were removing it from grain to give flour a longer shelf life, then paying for it in a jar. How silly is that?
It's like today, people drink skim milk, then add "whey protein" to make a shake. Um. Milk is 3% fat. The milk fat is the protein. Whey protein IS that milk protein.
So we're chemically removing it from our milk - then buying it separate and adding it back in. Where's the sense in that?
Yes, it matters where the calories come from.0 -
you need to chart your nutrition as well as your calories, when you have the app on your phone and you scan items with your phone it will actually add in the nutrition facts for you too, and working out will help you lose weight alot faster. if you didnt lose weight or gain weivght then maybe you should lower your calorie intake even more. the app isnt exact on how many calories you should consume to lose weight because every body is different so try lowering you calorie intake below what you were logging daily (average) and you should lose weight , working out will deduct calories but dont go by that just work out and lose calories and you will lose weight some people need to work out more than others depending on your body type i hope this helped0
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For all the people that think it matters, I encourage you to watch the following documentary:
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and I tend to completely ignore anyone who decides to use the bolded term. please read this link ... and please choose a new word to insult people with.
http://phoebeholmes.com/2011/12/23/being-retarded/
Oh man...this thread is officially doomed. The last thing we need is to start that arguement as well.
and, luke, if you think there's actually an argument there? you're in the ignored camp, too. it's pretty cut and dried. might as well throw out racial epithets if you think it's ok.
and argument has only one 'e.' just sayin.
You're going to correct my spelling while simultaneously using no capital letters, awful punctuation, and terrible grammar? That's retarded.
yeah, you got me. I don't use caps. least I'm not ignorant and insensitive.
oh, my sister's retarded. in the medical sense. so I'm not screwing around there. it's awesome that you're working to lose weight. it's awesome that you are invested enough to look for help when you are concerned something isn't working right. acting like an *kitten*? not so awesome.
I'm out. have fun. and while I truly hope you realize how hurtful words like that are, judging by your mature response, I'm not expecting much.0 -
and I tend to completely ignore anyone who decides to use the bolded term. please read this link ... and please choose a new word to insult people with.
http://phoebeholmes.com/2011/12/23/being-retarded/
Oh man...this thread is officially doomed. The last thing we need is to start that arguement as well.
and, luke, if you think there's actually an argument there? you're in the ignored camp, too. it's pretty cut and dried. might as well throw out racial epithets if you think it's ok.
and argument has only one 'e.' just sayin.
You're going to correct my spelling while simultaneously using no capital letters, awful punctuation, and terrible grammar? That's retarded.
yeah, you got me. I don't use caps. least I'm not ignorant and insensitive.
oh, my sister's retarded. in the medical sense. so I'm not screwing around there. it's awesome that you're working to lose weight. it's awesome that you are invested enough to look for help when you are concerned something isn't working right. acting like an *kitten*? not so awesome.
I'm out. have fun. and while I truly hope you realize how hurtful words like that are, judging by your mature response, I'm not expecting much.
Acting like an *kitten*? Maybe...definitely not unprovoked though. I simply made a comment that this thread was about to get more controversial. You responded by criticising me (even though I gave no opinion on the subject) and then correcting my spelling for some reason.
I'm all for being helpful on here but don't expect me not to "act like an *kitten*" when someone attacks me for no reason.
And for the record...here's my opinion. Your sister is not retarded. She's mentally handicapped. People who act like idiots, insult people they don't know, and generally cause problems instead of helping are retarded.0 -
Oh...and just so you understand how "insensitive" I really am...I spent YEARS in school as a T.A. in the special ed classes. My community service that was required for graduation was also helping out with people who were mentally handicapped. I'm not insensitive to people with disabilities at all. The day someone with a disability tells me using "retarded" as an adjective bothers them is the day I will stop.0
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I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.0 -
I say it matters!!! When I cut down on sugars and simple carbs I lost 3 inches around my stomach the first month. Plus I feel great! I have also read several books and studies suggesting that cutting down on sugar will help you lose stomach fat.0
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A calorie is a calorie. The most all those carbs will do will make you retain water. If you're eating a deficit, you'll lose weight.
One week is not a long enough time to measure anything to do with weight loss. Are people so misguided that they think the burger they ate last night is going to make them gain weight the next day? Fat loss just doesn't work that way!!0 -
You can't spot reduce!0
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Consider that sugar kills your body's ability to know when it is full. Fake sugars are three times sweeter than regular sugars, so they literally do three times the damage.
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Too bad all the useful info. here is getting lost in all the attitude and completely wrong information.0
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not to me0
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Consider that sugar kills your body's ability to know when it is full. Fake sugars are three times sweeter than regular sugars, so they literally do three times the damage.
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You can lose weight eating just junk food, but the body burns healthy food twice as quickly...
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Haven't read the entire thread, so I don't know if or how many times this has been said, but from my personal experience...it really depends on what your goal is. If it is to lose weight...no, I don't think it really matters. I've lost weight eating terribly at a calorie deficit, but I felt like crap. However, when I shifted my diet to a more Primal/Paleo eating style (almost tons of veg, a lot of meat, and a little fruit and nuts), I lost about the same amount and felt amazing because I was getting a lot more vitamins, fiber, etc. If the goal is overall health, yeah it absolutely matters! Fat loss does not automatically equal fitness!0
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You can lose weight eating just junk food, but the body burns healthy food twice as quickly...
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I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.
if something offends you than stop reading it. Freedom of speech buddy and also don't think you're the only person with family issues.0 -
Sheesh, this thread got heated.
Look, its all about moderation, I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that. Seems like this thread has turned into an argument about sugar/carbs... Some people saying sugar should be kept at a minimum, others calling that blasphemous and yelling about how they eat ice cream or cookies every day and are still losing weight. YOU'RE BOTH EFFING RIGHT. Come on, people.
I personally keep my daily net carbs at about 20% or less of my calories. Some people would POUNCE on me in this thread for "preaching low carb". For me, that equates to 70 net carbs a day. And if I happen to want a cookie that has 35g carbs in it, then I'll budget that! If its a celebration, or a special day, or hell, its a weekend getaway and I want a friggin margarita, then so what! I still live my life, and I don't think anyone on here has said that you shouldn't. But IN GENERAL, yes, its smart to watch and be conscious of your sugars and starches and overall carbohydrate consumption.
Ok, you can all come out of time-out now.0 -
I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.
if something offends you than stop reading it. Freedom of speech buddy and also don't think you're the only person with family issues.
not sure what family issues you believe I have. we're great.
and if someone wants to continue in ignorance, you're right. freedom of speech,etc. but just because you can say something doesn't mean you should. and if someone knows something is offensive and continues doing it, that says more about them than anything.
just an attempt at education. many people don't honestly realize how derogatory the word is. that's all.0 -
I would just like to thank this thread for all of the valuable additions to my ignore list.0
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I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.
if something offends you than stop reading it. Freedom of speech buddy and also don't think you're the only person with family issues.
Wow. Insensitive much?
Freedom of speech doesn't give anyone license to be a complete arsehole.0 -
Umm, yes it does matter. Not all calories are the same. If you want to lose weight you will need to ease off the sugar. And remember sometimes you might not see a drop on the scale right away, it does take time. But again if you are eating bad foods then you will not see any progress.
How was it that I ate ice cream and still lost weight?
You can have a cheat meal and still lose weight. You can't eat ice cream all day everyday and expect to lose weight.
I ate cookies EVERY single day and lost nearly 60lbs.
I still eat cookies EVERY single day and I've been maintaining that loss for the last 18 months.
Eating a serving size of ice cream every day isn't going to make you fat. Calories in/Calories out. Sheesh.
Actually it's not. And how many calories are consuming daily?0 -
I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.
if something offends you than stop reading it. Freedom of speech buddy and also don't think you're the only person with family issues.
Wow. Insensitive much?
Freedom of speech doesn't give anyone license to be a complete arsehole.
Because she took it has a personal attack when it wasn't. I have ppl with mental issues in my family, do I get bent out of shape when ppl say things that refer to something like that and blow up on ppl and call them names? NO cause it's childish and dumb0 -
I know, I came back in. sorry. but, luke, I reacted by saying that this isn't an 'argument.' it would be like arguing water is or isn't wet. or, in a more apples and apples conversation, that the word n***r is completely acceptable for us to be using. it isn't. and neither is this. same as, say, using 'gay' as a 'playful insult.'
and you are wrong. completely. and there's no gray area there. (and, telling me you know better, when I'm guessing by your thought process that you don't really have experience here, is inane.)Definition of RETARDED
: slow or limited in intellectual or emotional development or academic progress
my sister is mentally retarded. she is. she knows that. I know that. I've lived with it, with her, my whole life. I work with special olympics. I have for more than a two decades. guess what? they are mentally retarded. she isn't mentally handicapped. neither are the others in SO. they have a medical condition. that's what it's called. you forgetting where you put your keys? forgetting to let the dog out so it doesn't piss on the carpet? that's forgetful. maybe stupid. it's not retarded.
please, just trust me. it is a hurtful, hurtful thing to hear.
if something offends you than stop reading it. Freedom of speech buddy and also don't think you're the only person with family issues.
not sure what family issues you believe I have. we're great.
and if someone wants to continue in ignorance, you're right. freedom of speech,etc. but just because you can say something doesn't mean you should. and if someone knows something is offensive and continues doing it, that says more about them than anything.
just an attempt at education. many people don't honestly realize how derogatory the word is. that's all.
Well, than you would have to teach a lot of ppl "education" because every single person has probably offended another person/race/thing by saying something. And i'd love for you to say you never have0 -
Sheesh, this thread got heated.
Look, its all about moderation, I'm pretty sure we can all agree on that. Seems like this thread has turned into an argument about sugar/carbs... Some people saying sugar should be kept at a minimum, others calling that blasphemous and yelling about how they eat ice cream or cookies every day and are still losing weight. YOU'RE BOTH EFFING RIGHT. Come on, people.
I personally keep my daily net carbs at about 20% or less of my calories. Some people would POUNCE on me in this thread for "preaching low carb". For me, that equates to 70 net carbs a day. And if I happen to want a cookie that has 35g carbs in it, then I'll budget that! If its a celebration, or a special day, or hell, its a weekend getaway and I want a friggin margarita, then so what! I still live my life, and I don't think anyone on here has said that you shouldn't. But IN GENERAL, yes, its smart to watch and be conscious of your sugars and starches and overall carbohydrate consumption.
Ok, you can all come out of time-out now.
And, everyone is different....that's why I dont understand the whole debate. What might work some wont work for all.0
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