Paleo Diet

Miss_curvy
Miss_curvy Posts: 77 Member
edited November 10 in Food and Nutrition
I'm thinking about start the Paleo Diet, i've heard is good, but i wanna do some research before to start it... Does anyone here doing the paleo diet, and if you have some info that could help me i will be pleased!! Thanks!
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  • snowbab
    snowbab Posts: 192 Member
    This is only my third day on the diet but I already like it. There are food I miss already particukarly porridge and milk but I find I get full and I'm never anwhere near over my daily calorie goal even when eating high calorie things like nuts.

    I think it's a persnal thing but maybe do what I am and try it for a month and see how it goes :)
  • danipals
    danipals Posts: 143 Member
    I would suggest checking out www.marksdailyapple.com for a wealth of information!
  • robidy
    robidy Posts: 5 Member
    I am on day 3 of implementing Paleo.
    Any 'tricks of the trade' - snacks, meal or if someone who is doing it wouldn't mind friending me so I can see your diary.
    Kind of just fumbling along over here
    Thanks
    Robin
    (Robidy):happy:
  • Jessb1985
    Jessb1985 Posts: 264 Member
    I eat primally (As in I eat cheese/cream) and I love it, don't get tired during the day anymore and no heart palpitations from being insulin resistant. It does take a litle longer to prepare as you make mostly everything from scratch (no processed) but it's worth it to me :)

    As said above, any questions you have are generally answered at marksdailyapple.com
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    You all can add me as friends if you like.

    I will post some recipes and such either after my class tonight or tomorrow during the day.
  • theflyingartist
    theflyingartist Posts: 385 Member
    It's a heavily science based diet utilizing the properties of evolution and the human body.
    I love it. Marks Daily Apple is great, as well as Paleo Spirit blog.

    Add me if you'd like. Paleo is so tough for the first couple weeks, after that-- well, you won't ever want to go back once you see how great you feel. Especially emotionally.
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.

    Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.

    http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    I'm on day 4 of a 30 day Paleo challenge...I have been eating fairly clean for the past year or so so it hasn't been that difficult as I had already cut out most processed food, sugars, carbs such as pasta and bread, as well as most dairy due to an irritation I discovered after doing a whole food cleanse back in November - when i tried to add it back in - my body revolted in not so kind ways.

    There are a host of great websites for recipes and what not - off the top of my head google

    The clothes make the girl - Melissa Jeolwan (sp?) - I made her meat cupcakes this weekend using ground turkey and that has been my breakfast with 2 hard boiled eggs this week...

    Health-bent is another site I found that has a bunch of recipes by catagory

    As for the person who said don't eat Paleo - it is a persons choice - everything you read is going to have a slant to it - and every persons body is different...Paleo may work for some people and may not work for others...I know for myself - apparently counting calories does not work for me...I have been doing it for the past year and if the addage is true that you simply burn more calories then you take in you will loose weight...then I should have lost about 50 lbs this year instead of the 15 I did (oh and I am proud of the 15 I lost don't get me wrong - just saying by conventional thinking of it doesn't matter WHAT you eat...calories are calories...obviously for myself and many others the key maybe what I feed by body to fuel it rather then the overall calories (not to say calories don't count...they do) but for me I am thinking there is a big difference in eating 1500 calories of whole grains vs eating 1500 calories of meat, veggies and good fats....
  • katy4399
    katy4399 Posts: 136 Member
    I am Gluten Free due to Celiac Disease and gluten (Protein found in barley, wheat and rye) is soooo modified to make our breads lighter and fluffier. It's not the same gluten our ancestors had.
    I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.

    Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.

    http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.

    Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.

    http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html

    Most modern day "whole grains" are so modified that it doesn't resemble paleo era grains (granted depending on where you buy your fruit/veggies and meats there could be some modification there) - furthermore the article states there is no evidence for or against the use of grains in cooking... the idea of of what they might have used them for the grain part would have been such a small part of the overall diet it would probably have been fairly negligable when compared to the amount of meat/fish/veggies/nuts/seeds they would have eaten
  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
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  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    We really don't know how much grain early humans ate. But almost as soon as they started farming, and not just being hunter/gathers, humans grew grain.

    Anyway, I really don't understand why we should eat what stone age people ate when there is such a rich history of food that humans have been consuming for thousands of years that are not part of the Paleo plan. To me, Paleo is just another fad diet that makes big money for the people that write books about it.
  • UponThisRock
    UponThisRock Posts: 4,519 Member
    but for me I am thinking there is a big difference in eating 1500 calories of whole grains vs eating 1500 calories of meat, veggies and good fats....

    That's a ton of middle ground you're excluding.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    I would suggest checking out www.marksdailyapple.com for a wealth of information!

    Bingo! I follow both Mark's diet ideas and exercise plan and have been for about a month or so. I've never felt so good! I'm loosing body fat and ahve the best energy level I've had in years! I am almost done reading The Primal Blueprint. Great info!!
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member
    I know some people that tried switching over to the Paleo diet, and it made them feel so tired and sick they decided it wasn't for them. So maybe it has to do with your body type, blood type - who knows?

    Anyway, I would suggest that if anyone decides to "go Paleo," they make the change gradually so they can find out if their body can tolerate being on that kind of a diet or not.
  • Health_Gal
    Health_Gal Posts: 715 Member

    Most modern day "whole grains" are so modified that it doesn't resemble paleo era grains (granted depending on where you buy your fruit/veggies and meats there could be some modification there) - furthermore the article states there is no evidence for or against the use of grains in cooking... the idea of of what they might have used them for the grain part would have been such a small part of the overall diet it would probably have been fairly negligable when compared to the amount of meat/fish/veggies/nuts/seeds they would have eaten

    Isn't almost ALL of our food modified from what cavemen ate? I mean, look at all the selective breeding of farm animals that's been done in just the past few hundred years. And even if you don't eat beans or gain, most of the vegetables and fruits we eat are hybrid (selectively cross bread) or genetically engineered. So while we can do our best to eat healthy, I don't think it's realistic to say we are eating like our caveman ancestors if we eat Primal.
  • sgpaschak
    sgpaschak Posts: 39
    The best diet is one that works for you and you can build a lifestyle around. If you can maintain the requirements of Paleo and it works for you, then it is great. If you can't sustain it as a lifestyle, then it is not for you.
  • mmapags
    mmapags Posts: 8,934 Member
    I know some people that tried switching over to the Paleo diet, and it made them feel so tired and sick they decided it wasn't for them. So maybe it has to do with your body type, blood type - who knows?

    Anyway, I would suggest that if anyone decides to "go Paleo," they make the change gradually so they can find out if their body can tolerate being on that kind of a diet or not.

    For someone who hasn't done it and is relaying all hearsay you certainly have a lot of commentary and recomedations. You obviously don't think it is a good idea. Duly noted.
  • danipals
    danipals Posts: 143 Member
    The best diet is one that works for you and you can build a lifestyle around. If you can maintain the requirements of Paleo and it works for you, then it is great. If you can't sustain it as a lifestyle, then it is not for you.

    Thank you! I agree completely! I think sometimes people forget that the original poster is asking for help, not an opinion about something the people replying have never even tried/don't know all the facts about! I tried going Primal and felt great while doing it but it was too difficult for me personally to maintain. I think if it works for you to achieve your goals and you feel great, then go for it!! Good luck and wishing you great success!!
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member

    Most modern day "whole grains" are so modified that it doesn't resemble paleo era grains (granted depending on where you buy your fruit/veggies and meats there could be some modification there) - furthermore the article states there is no evidence for or against the use of grains in cooking... the idea of of what they might have used them for the grain part would have been such a small part of the overall diet it would probably have been fairly negligable when compared to the amount of meat/fish/veggies/nuts/seeds they would have eaten

    Isn't almost ALL of our food modified from what cavemen ate? I mean, look at all the selective breeding of farm animals that's been done in just the past few hundred years. And even if you don't eat beans or gain, most of the vegetables and fruits we eat are hybrid (selectively cross bread) or genetically engineered. So while we can do our best to eat healthy, I don't think it's realistic to say we are eating like our caveman ancestors if we eat Primal.

    Wow, why take the whole "eat like a caveman" so literally. It means to eat foods that grow, live and breathe and can be eaten with little or no processing.

    Eat what could be hunted and gathered and eaten almost instantly.
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    We really don't know how much grain early humans ate. But almost as soon as they started farming, and not just being hunter/gathers, humans grew grain.

    Anyway, I really don't understand why we should eat what stone age people ate when there is such a rich history of food that humans have been consuming for thousands of years that are not part of the Paleo plan. To me, Paleo is just another fad diet that makes big money for the people that write books about it.

    Most people that write these books are actually giving their information away for free, so technically no one really needs to buy any of the books, so that shoots your theory right out of the water.

    And 2.5 million years is a long time for a fad, don't you think? There haven't always been frozen pizzas, cake mixes and hamburger helper..................

    There was a time (not too long ago either) where people ate what they could farm and grow right on their own land, which included meats, fruits and vegetables mostly.
  • aliciamerritt
    aliciamerritt Posts: 6 Member
    Check out nerd fitness, here's a specific link on paleo: http://nerdfitness.com/blog/2010/10/04/the-beginners-guide-to-the-paleo-diet/
  • PaleoPath4Lyfe
    PaleoPath4Lyfe Posts: 3,161 Member
    I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.

    Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.

    http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html

    There are NO nutrients found in legumes or grains that aren't more abundantly found in fruits, vegetables, proteins or fats.

    And did you know that the pharoahs in egypt ate a lot of grain products and drank a lot of beer and they were discovered to have had high incidents of heart disease also................
    Ten or twelve years ago we wrote in Protein Power about the data contained in the vast amount of ancient Egyptian mummies. We pointed out that several thousand years ago when the future mummies roamed the earth their diet was a nutritionist’s nirvana. At least a nirvana for all the so-called nutritional experts of today who are recommending a diet filled with whole grains, fresh fruits and vegetables, and little meat, especially red meat. Follow such a diet, we’re told, and we will enjoy abundant health.

    Unfortunately, it didn’t work that way for the Egyptians. They followed such a diet simply because that’s all there was. There was no sugar – it wouldn’t be produced for another thousand or more years. The only sweet was honey, which was consumed in limited amounts. The primary staple was a coarse bread made of stone-ground, whole wheat. Animals were used as beasts of burden and were valued much more for the work they could do than for the meat they could provide. The banks of the Nile provided fertile soil for growing all kinds of fruits and vegetables, all of which were a part the low-fat, high-carbohydrate Egyptian diet. And there were no artificial sweeteners, artificial coloring, artificial flavors, preservatives, or any of the other substances that are part of all the manufactured foods we eat today.

    Were the nutritionists of today right about their ideas of the ideal diet, the ancient Egyptians should have had abundant health. But they didn’t. In fact, they suffered pretty miserable health. Many had heart disease, high blood pressure, diabetes and obesity – all the same disorders that we experience today in the ‘civilized’ Western world. Diseases that Paleolithic man, our really ancient ancestors, appeared to escape.


    The press has been filled with reports of the recent discovery – thanks to DNA analysis – of the mummy of Queen Hatshepsut, who ruled Egypt for around 15 years 3500 years ago.

    According to the New York Times, Hatshepsut’s mummy is that of an obese, diabetic 50 year old woman with bad teeth. All the conditions that nutritionists today would have us believe would be prevented by Hatshepsut’s diet. It certainly didn’t work for her. And she is not a special case – most Egyptian mummies show the same disorders, especially the bad teeth. The skeletal remains of Paleolithic man, who consumed a meat-based diet, showed strong, perfect teeth. Bad teeth are the hallmark of carbohydrate consumption.
  • twinmom01
    twinmom01 Posts: 854 Member
    but for me I am thinking there is a big difference in eating 1500 calories of whole grains vs eating 1500 calories of meat, veggies and good fats....

    That's a ton of middle ground you're excluding.

    True...very true - I was using a more absolute trying to highlight what i was talking about before that - the "calories in - calories out" way of thinking...that if you go by that way of thinking then if I eat 1500 calories/day of a diet more centered on whole grains/carbs/etc...and my total burn creates a 3500 deficit during a week I should loose 1 lb a week...yeah that doesn't work for me - it may work very well for others...

    The thing is the orginal poster asked about the Paleo lifestyle - it IS NOT a "diet" in a typical sense other then to say your food diet consists of....the thing is people who "diet" aren't going to loose weight and keep it off...people who make lifestyle changes to their eating habits are going to be the most effective...the benefits from any way of eating is through prolonged use of that way of eating...

    I never said grains are bad...I don't think they are bad - but since the OP asked specifically about Paleo maybe they have read about it - maybe they have Celiac or other intolerances that are leading them to ask about the Paleo way of eating...

    Simply put there is a reason why the rate of obesity started increasing at about the time processed foods became widely available...why it does matter what you are putting into your body in the form of nutrients, vitamins, minerals...all things that people need to read about on their own...from a variety of sources....I have spent the past 2 years reading a variety of books on the subjects of nutrients and how our bodies react to various chemicals, minerals, vitamins, etc...I've read pros and cons about a lot of different things....eggs are bad for you...coffee is bad for you...no wait eggs are good for you...coffee is good for you...oh no it is better to eat a 100 calorie pack of low fat chemical snack than 100 calories of avacado...

    to each their own...I know personally I have a few friends that ahve been on the paleo/primal lifestyle for a while now and it has done them wonders...I have yet to meet someone who follows a paleo/primal lifestyle who finds it a drag or gotten sick because of it...

    to the OP - do a Google search on Paleo - there are lots of good sites and sites that list pros and cons...if you aren't already eating a fairly clean diet I would not recommend just jumping in without lots of support...my suggestion would be to clean up your diet in stages to get to a point where you have things like sodas, breads, processed foods, pastas already out of your typical daily diet....and then push it a little further...I have spent the past 2 years working towards a cleaner eating style - not to say I haven't said to myself - I really want that bagel...and have said bagel...it is all about choices...is it a choice to have a bagel every day or week - or have one maybe every 6-8 weeks....
  • AmandaBroun
    AmandaBroun Posts: 126
    Check out http://www.marksdailyapple.com/ and http://robbwolf.com/ Both are great sources of info.
  • BAMFMeredith
    BAMFMeredith Posts: 2,810 Member
    The best diet is one that works for you and you can build a lifestyle around. If you can maintain the requirements of Paleo and it works for you, then it is great. If you can't sustain it as a lifestyle, then it is not for you.

    Thank you! I agree completely! I think sometimes people forget that the original poster is asking for help, not an opinion about something the people replying have never even tried/don't know all the facts about! I tried going Primal and felt great while doing it but it was too difficult for me personally to maintain. I think if it works for you to achieve your goals and you feel great, then go for it!! Good luck and wishing you great success!!

    This. What works for me, may not work for you. The way that I eat does not work for my boyfriend, we eat totally different things for dinner half the time because he can't eat the way that I eat and be satisfied, and vice versa. It's all about trying different things and finding what is right for you and your body!
  • Foxworth81
    Foxworth81 Posts: 124 Member
    Thanks for the websites. I'm planning to start Paleo in a couple of weeks so I'm researching. I have some books that explain the science of the lifestyle but could always use recipes. Please share any good ones you have for dinner or websites that can offer some.
  • treatgirl
    treatgirl Posts: 36 Member
    I've just started this too, though a slightly less extreme version as set out in Dr John Briffa's books. It seems a bit scary at first, but am loving it so far...
  • Kymmu
    Kymmu Posts: 1,650 Member
    Try it properly for 1 month.
    No cheating.
    If you lose weight and feel better like I did, then it's for you.
    You're welcome to look at my diaries. Join the MFP group for more info.
    Keep an open mind!
  • BrooksCry
    BrooksCry Posts: 7 Member
    I would not recommend the Paleo diet. It might be OK if someone is allergic to grains, but if you are not, you will be missing out on a lot of good nutrition by removing all the whole grains, beans, and some other healthy food groups from your diet.

    Archeologists have discovered that humans have been eating grain for thousands of years, so I don't get why the Paleo people are saying it's so terrible now.

    http://thespartandiet.blogspot.com/2010/10/its-official-grains-were-part-of.html

    The grains humans used to eat lots of many years ago never went through being genically modified.
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