How to handle a boy bully against girls?

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  • papa3x
    papa3x Posts: 286
    OK. I will NOT have my daughter punching or kicking over verbal harassment. I also will not be jumping on any school buses to scare the crap out of a kid. I kind of like A: Not spending a weekend in jail, or B: Having to pay fines, So we can stop suggesting that because it isn't going to happen.

    I called the school today. The woman I need to speak to is out of the office until this afternoon, at which point I have assured I will get a call back.
  • TheRoadDog
    TheRoadDog Posts: 11,788 Member
    Calls for a Father to Father Chat.

    I would let him know that this has to end immediately. Make him responsible for his boy's actions. You have to be prepared to hold him to it.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    OK. I will NOT have my daughter punching or kicking over verbal harassment. I also will not be jumping on any school buses to scare the crap out of a kid. I kind of like A: Not spending a weekend in jail, or B: Having to pay fines, So we can stop suggesting that because it isn't going to happen.

    I called the school today. The woman I need to speak to is out of the office until this afternoon, at which point I have assured I will get a call back.

    You're on the right track. I hope you get it all worked out for your daughter.
  • While my opinion may not be the most popular one, I'll say it anyways.

    Tell your daughter to punch him in the face next time he threatens her or bullies her. It may be just the thing to get him off her back.

    I agree except that she will get suspended. School is the only place in the world where you don't have a right to defend yourself.

    ^^^ This is very true and sad. I have always told both of my kids to stick up for themselves!! If someone hits or pushes them they have been told and taught to fight back! If the school decides to punish them fine but if they were to really pay attention to the children’s files they would know my kids are the ones with fantastic grades and NO discipline problems. For the part these bullies are already problem children at school.

    Bullies will bully until someone puts them in their place!!

    ETA: Going to the parents is usually pointless, where do you think the behavior is learned from.......
  • madamepsychosis
    madamepsychosis Posts: 472 Member
    OK. I will NOT have my daughter punching or kicking over verbal harassment. I also will not be jumping on any school buses to scare the crap out of a kid. I kind of like A: Not spending a weekend in jail, or B: Having to pay fines, So we can stop suggesting that because it isn't going to happen.

    I called the school today. The woman I need to speak to is out of the office until this afternoon, at which point I have assured I will get a call back.

    Good for you, both on not resorting to violence like some people have suggested and on calling the school. Please do let us know what happens!
  • EmCarroll1990
    EmCarroll1990 Posts: 2,832 Member
    OK. I will NOT have my daughter punching or kicking over verbal harassment. I also will not be jumping on any school buses to scare the crap out of a kid. I kind of like A: Not spending a weekend in jail, or B: Having to pay fines, So we can stop suggesting that because it isn't going to happen.

    I called the school today. The woman I need to speak to is out of the office until this afternoon, at which point I have assured I will get a call back.

    I think you're taking the high road and showing your daughters how to deal with things maturely. It's absolutely terrible that your daughter is being bullied - I was bullied in elementary school as well. Like many others have very well suggested, stick to dealing with the school and making an appointment with the stupid little boy and his oblivious father, the PRINCIPAL - no one else, talk with the principal, and see if an officer can be present - it'll scare the boy and maybe the father will take it more seriously.
  • clydethecat
    clydethecat Posts: 1,087 Member
    the school isnt going to do shlt.. they're only out to cover their own @ss. take this to the police, file a complaint for harassment, let the police handle it.. the school will not give you satisfaction.
  • LittleMissNerdy
    LittleMissNerdy Posts: 792 Member
    the school isnt going to do shlt.. they're only out to cover their own @ss. take this to the police, file a complaint for harassment, let the police handle it.. the school will not give you satisfaction.

    Sadly, I agree about the school. You always hear about how parents go to the school and nothing happens until it's too late and someone really ends up hurt. Watch or read the news and you'll find a story every day about how a parent kept going to the school and they did nothing.
  • reaolliemama
    reaolliemama Posts: 483 Member
    OK. I will NOT have my daughter punching or kicking over verbal harassment. I also will not be jumping on any school buses to scare the crap out of a kid. I kind of like A: Not spending a weekend in jail, or B: Having to pay fines, So we can stop suggesting that because it isn't going to happen.

    I called the school today. The woman I need to speak to is out of the office until this afternoon, at which point I have assured I will get a call back.


    Good decision...but you knew that anyway! I think you are a shining example to your children and I'm really glad there are people like you and that you didn't sink to the level of many of you "advisors" here!
  • BrendaLee
    BrendaLee Posts: 4,463 Member
    Request a meeting with the principal, the kids and the parents. If you go to either the parents or the principal without gathering everyone together, there's a good chance the situation will never be resolved.
  • stormieweather
    stormieweather Posts: 2,549 Member
    I would start lightly, but have backup plans in place. Talking to the school would be step 1. If that produces no results, a certified letter to the school demanding action would be step 2. A letter from an attorney would be step 3. And finally, I would change schools if necessary to eliminate the problem and follow up legally.

    Also, I always taught my kids that they are NEVER to hit another person out of anger or meanness, BUT if they are hit, they have absolute permission to defend themselves. Additionally, I showed them how deal with a bully...moving away, moving close to an adult, firm statement to leave me alone, using ipod, dumb stare, and broken record tactics. And if it gets physical, DEFEND..both physically and verbally.

    Sadly, bullying doesn't end when a child graduates. There are bullies throughout life and it is important to learn how to deal with them without losing our integrity.
  • maidentl
    maidentl Posts: 3,203 Member
    the school isnt going to do shlt.. they're only out to cover their own @ss. take this to the police, file a complaint for harassment, let the police handle it.. the school will not give you satisfaction.

    Sadly, I agree about the school. You always hear about how parents go to the school and nothing happens until it's too late and someone really ends up hurt. Watch or read the news and you'll find a story every day about how a parent kept going to the school and they did nothing.

    This is because it's not a news story when the school nips it in the bud and reprimands the bully. I'm not going to state emphatically that this school WILL do something, but he definitely should start there.
  • MrsFelton2010
    MrsFelton2010 Posts: 339 Member
    Get your daughter into kickboxing and if someone tries to bully her TRUST ME they won't do it a 2ns time! Parents need to step up and his little *kitten* needs an old fashion!!
  • Chubbyhulagirl
    Chubbyhulagirl Posts: 374 Member
    Does anyone else think that a fifth grader threatening murder of another classmates parents is seriously off? The fact that his parent, a religious teacher, took it so lightly also gives me weird vibes. Is it possible he is crying out for help in the only way he knows how? To act the way he is treated at home? I know its possible that hes just a rotten kid but sometimes their are extenuating circumstances. Like kids who shoot up their schools and we find out later that they were bullied mercilessly with no intervention from the parents of the bullies or support from the school. Protect your daughters by getting on the schools case and keeping the situation at the forefront with all involved but dont be so quick to judge the boy. I personally knew a boy that was extremely aggressive and angry. He also defecated in his pants often all the way up to middle school. Later we discovered his father was raping him throughout his childhood. It wasnt until he was strong enough to fight back physically that it stopped. Please pay attention to the children around you. Some may just be looking for someone to save them.
  • mznisaelaine
    mznisaelaine Posts: 2,262 Member
    I got bullied by boys all the time when I was in elementary school. I got talked out alot because I wasn't pretty and "normal" looking like all the other girls. It did alot of damage to my self esteem but I never said anything to anyone because I still was friends with everyone... It's just I wasn't "pretty" .. But for some reason everyone wanted to be my friend so I guess it wasnt a big deal to me at the time.

    But what I know now as an adult and have studied about bullying etc., I wish I would have let my patents know and other adults know. Those boys went everyday thinking it was ok to do that. It's important that children today report all incidents of bullying. Nowadays kids are just smart and they are exposed to so much and at a very young age; they know about guns, hurting someone, how to plan attacks, etc. It's really sad nowadays
  • xtinalovexo
    xtinalovexo Posts: 1,376 Member
    when i was a child i was beat up by a few boys... and then as an adult i was beat up by a man.... i suggest learning self defense... and carrying pepper spray.

    daughters need to be taught at a young age how to defend themselves and what is acceptable and what is NEVER acceptable.
  • dlaplume2
    dlaplume2 Posts: 1,658 Member
    As a parent, you need to what is best for your little girl. Getting her or yourself kicked off the bus, out of school or in jail is not the best option.

    I would talk to the school and let them know your concerns. I would also talk to the bus driver. You may have to call the bus company to do so. The school should have that number. This boy should not be allowed on the bus if he is being diruptive.

    I think that how you handle this is going to teach your daughter how to handle men when she gets older. It is very important, what you are doing for her.

    I wish you the best of luck. She has a good dad looking out for her.
  • madamepsychosis
    madamepsychosis Posts: 472 Member
    Does anyone else think that a fifth grader threatening murder of another classmates parents is seriously off? The fact that his parent, a religious teacher, took it so lightly also gives me weird vibes. Is it possible he is crying out for help in the only way he knows how? To act the way he is treated at home? I know its possible that hes just a rotten kid but sometimes their are extenuating circumstances. Like kids who shoot up their schools and we find out later that they were bullied mercilessly with no intervention from the parents of the bullies or support from the school. Protect your daughters by getting on the schools case and keeping the situation at the forefront with all involved but dont be so quick to judge the boy. I personally knew a boy that was extremely aggressive and angry. He also defecated in his pants often all the way up to middle school. Later we discovered his father was raping him throughout his childhood. It wasnt until he was strong enough to fight back physically that it stopped. Please pay attention to the children around you. Some may just be looking for someone to save them.

    Yes! That is not language I'd ever expect to hear come out of a young child's mouth unless something was SERIOUSLY off. Hopefully it's nothing as drastic as the boy you knew, but I certainly think he needs regular counselling when all this has been sorted out. To be that aggressive and to use language like that at any age is bad, but to use it as a young child is very strange and disturbing.
  • papa3x
    papa3x Posts: 286
    FOLLOW UP...

    OK, we had a talk with the principal. She said she was going to have a meeting with the parents of the boy and tell them that their son was on probation for the rest of the year, and could possibly be expelled if his son committed a serious offense.

    Now to the WEIRD part..... the boy asked the girl he called the "C Word", to go out on a date with him.....
  • kb455
    kb455 Posts: 679 Member
    Wow, it sounds like the school is taking it very seriously. Good for them. I've had issues on the school bus with my 7-year old who, along with a bunch of his peers, was being bullied by a 5th grader. After having a less than satisfying outcome during the meeting with the principal, I now drive him to and from school. Good for you for taking care of it.
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