1250 calories?

I'm not giving advise I'm giving encouragement to people who are successful. Something this forum seems to be lacking. Instead people keep being told it's not sustainable you're going to fail. Even people who lose 80 lbs are being told they are wrong. People who have been keeping it off and they are still being told they are wrong. I can posts studies proving starvation mode is a myth but that's been done countless times. I can post studies of people who have to eat low calories due to their conditions but again that's been done countless times as well.

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Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Well I never mentioned starvation mode, I too believe it's BS. But I do believe in the bodies' defense mechanism set up to conserve energy and the affects of cortisol on a body as I posted the information. Also, have you every looked in this forum and seen how many people are frustrated or not losing weight and NONE of them are eating 1600 calories or so. They are all on 1200 calories. Do you know the effects of VLCD on the metabolism or how about lean muscle mass?

And at least for me, you can't say I don't encourage people, because if that was the case, i wouldn't be answering 20+ PM's a day and working with people to reach their goals. But what I actually do, unlike many others (yourself included at this moment) is show scientific data that shows eating VLCD isn't always the way to go. In fact, unless you are obese, it isn't suggested. So yes, people do lose 100 lbs on VLCD's but they all start out obese. If you only have 20 lbs to lose (like myself) a VLCD doesn't work. BTW, i tried it because I didn't educate myself. I did 1800 calories and P90X and didn't lose anything. Not an inch, not a lb, not any body fat. I upped my calories to 2600 and did CLX, I lost 6", 16 lbs and 3% body fat.

So if you want to be a cheerleader for those on VLCD that is up to you. But don't come back to me and tell me I am wrong when I actually post legitimate data and try to help people out.

Morning Dan.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

OMG I laughed for 5 minutes. Not sure if you were making fun of me or just being silly and giving me jesus thumbs up in agreement of my comment lol. either way did i laughbecause that was funny! oh boy here i go again lol. Just funny.

You'll never know

1250 would probably work fine for you (for now) if you were able to continue it. But sometimes people just can't maintain such a low amount of calories, and it ends up working against them in the end by making them overeat. Remember, it's a diet, not torture. If you need 1400, go with 1400 (or more), as long as you're at a deficit. You'll just lose weight slower, which isn't a crime. Hopefully this is a lifestyle change for you.

wow that's incredible for your height/weight. no wonder you're hungry. i am maintaining 125 at 5'4" and eating 1700-1800 calories. definitely bump that up. i dont' really work out that intensely either. i might burn 1400 calories a week doing exercise.

I don't need anyone "following me" There is nothing to follow I'm congratulating people for doing well and finding something that works for them.
"You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids" you do realize 1 in 3 children in the US are obese right? anywho if you are doing well on 1800 calories congrats to those people as well. But putting people down because they eat 1200 calories is really not helpful whatsoever. And just because more calories worked for you doesn't mean it will work for them. So good for you Dan that you found something that works for you. Keep up the good work. For those still searching I wish you luck.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Well said Lemon!

Hormonal issues
Lean mass loss
Skinny fat

Great job all!

You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids, maintained if not added more body fat% while losing precious lean mass.

Watboy probably isnt the person to follow in this forum but what do I know?
I've only helped 100s lose fat while maintaining lean mass.

If you feel that you are not eating enough, please research proper dieting.
I have a link on my profile page if you need guidance.
The link is what woke me up from the 1200 cal fog and opened me up to a new way of life.
The sustainable diet that maintains lean mass and burns fat.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Lol

I hate it when people say 1200 is not sustainable, yes it is, we eat wayyyyy too much food, that's why we're fat!

I don't think that's the reason. It basically comes down to the overconsumption of calories and macros with no activity to balance it out (calorie surplus instead of a deficit). I eat 1800-2500+ calories per day and lose every single week. There are others on this site who eat well above 2000+ calories and lose as well.

Having been on the 1200 calorie kick for a month or two when I first joined MFP, this practice made me gain weight and left me irritable. I also found out that every time someone eats at 1200 calories, an innocent kitten dies! So I upped my calories right away after a "meet-cute" with Helloitsdan on the forums. Please, don't kill the kittens! Raise your calories, eat above BMR and save the kittens!!



Aren't they cute??

I hate it when people say 1200 is not sustainable, yes it is, we eat wayyyyy too much food, that's why we're fat!

I don't think that's the reason. It basically comes down to the overconsumption of calories and macros with no activity to balance it out (calorie surplus instead of a deficit). I eat 1800-2500+ calories per day and lose every single week. There are others on this site who eat well above 2000+ calories and lose as well.

Having been on the 1200 calorie kick for a month or two when I first joined MFP, this practice made me gain weight and left me irritable. I also found out that every time someone eats at 1200 calories, an innocent kitten dies! So I upped my calories right away after a "meet-cute" with Helloitsdan on the forums. Please, don't kill the kittens! Raise your calories, eat above BMR and save the kittens!!



Aren't they cute??

This... Minus Dan is cute I'm eating 2500-3000 cals a day still lost 3.5% body fat in 2 months

Watboy

You need a cookie...:ohwell:

I'm not on a 1200 calorie diet i'm on a a 1600 calorie diet I'm just defending people who were being bashed for being on a 1200 calorie. It's discouraging to them. They are saying it's working for them and they are sustaining it and rather than offering kind words they get snarky rude comments. This site is becoming one big high school where people bully other's for doing something different. If 1200 calories is so detramental then MFP should get rid of this setting all together. However I know plenty of folks and have seen their success stories and are on a 1200 calorie a day lifestyle change. If that works for them good on them.

hey i don't think dan is trying to say that you're not losing weight on 1200 calories. it's just that you sacrifice muscle as well as fat. actually, normal "non obese" kids eat about 1200 calories at age 8. my daughter is 2 and eats about 1000 calories a day. she is not obese either. Take a look here

"The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently addressed this issue when it revised the Food Pyramid. The new dietary guidelines are based on caloric needs for each age group. For ages 2 to 3, the USDA recommends a child consume 1,000 to 1,400 calories, depending on his activity level. For age 4, the calorie intake increases to between 1,200 and 2,000. Here are examples of how much your child should be getting in all five food groups."

linked here: http://www.babycenter.com/0_nutrition-guidelines-for-young-children_64359.bc

I don't need anyone "following me" There is nothing to follow I'm congratulating people for doing well and finding something that works for them.
"You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids" you do realize 1 in 3 children in the US are obese right? anywho if you are doing well on 1800 calories congrats to those people as well. But putting people down because they eat 1200 calories is really not helpful whatsoever. And just because more calories worked for you doesn't mean it will work for them. So good for you Dan that you found something that works for you. Keep up the good work. For those still searching I wish you luck.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Well said Lemon!

Hormonal issues
Lean mass loss
Skinny fat

Great job all!

You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids, maintained if not added more body fat% while losing precious lean mass.

Watboy probably isnt the person to follow in this forum but what do I know?
I've only helped 100s lose fat while maintaining lean mass.

If you feel that you are not eating enough, please research proper dieting.
I have a link on my profile page if you need guidance.
The link is what woke me up from the 1200 cal fog and opened me up to a new way of life.
The sustainable diet that maintains lean mass and burns fat.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Lol

i agree they have been some snarky remarks

It says 1250 calories, but when you work out it adds more, so you can eat more if you work out and burn more off

I'm a lot older (62) and have more to lose. My doctor & nutritionist set my calories/day at 1200. Which is what MFP set my goal at. Been doing this 3 weeks (on site just 1 day) and I'm doing fine. I'm also doing 3 meals and 2 snacks. My body is different than your's and everyone else's. I need to do what is right for me to be healthy, control my type 2 diabetes and get fit. IMO.

ok i see what you mean. i'm not being snarky though ( i don't think and not on purpose if someone perceives it that way). i am just trying to explain what can happen when you eat that little, as it seems like others are trying to do also. i'm sure they (people eating 1200) are having success. i was too for a while. then i realized what was happening. after a while when i did that, i was hungry all the time, was burning muscle, needed to eat more. i realized my lean body mass was low because of doing this. so i was just trying to explain what can happen. not trying to be mean at all. hoping others can learn from this. very low calories can seem like the right answer but in the long term can actually do harm to your body composition. just a fact, not really anything to debate about it. and it's not really somethign someone can be "mean" or "snarky" about when it's true.

I'm not on a 1200 calorie diet i'm on a a 1600 calorie diet I'm just defending people who were being bashed for being on a 1200 calorie. It's discouraging to them. They are saying it's working for them and they are sustaining it and rather than offering kind words they get snarky rude comments. This site is becoming one big high school where people bully other's for doing something different. If 1200 calories is so detramental then MFP should get rid of this setting all together. However I know plenty of folks and have seen their success stories and are on a 1200 calorie a day lifestyle change. If that works for them good on them.

hey i don't think dan is trying to say that you're not losing weight on 1200 calories. it's just that you sacrifice muscle as well as fat. actually, normal "non obese" kids eat about 1200 calories at age 8. my daughter is 2 and eats about 1000 calories a day. she is not obese either. Take a look here

"The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently addressed this issue when it revised the Food Pyramid. The new dietary guidelines are based on caloric needs for each age group. For ages 2 to 3, the USDA recommends a child consume 1,000 to 1,400 calories, depending on his activity level. For age 4, the calorie intake increases to between 1,200 and 2,000. Here are examples of how much your child should be getting in all five food groups."

linked here: http://www.babycenter.com/0_nutrition-guidelines-for-young-children_64359.bc

I don't need anyone "following me" There is nothing to follow I'm congratulating people for doing well and finding something that works for them.
"You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids" you do realize 1 in 3 children in the US are obese right? anywho if you are doing well on 1800 calories congrats to those people as well. But putting people down because they eat 1200 calories is really not helpful whatsoever. And just because more calories worked for you doesn't mean it will work for them. So good for you Dan that you found something that works for you. Keep up the good work. For those still searching I wish you luck.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Well said Lemon!

Hormonal issues
Lean mass loss
Skinny fat

Great job all!

You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids, maintained if not added more body fat% while losing precious lean mass.

Watboy probably isnt the person to follow in this forum but what do I know?
I've only helped 100s lose fat while maintaining lean mass.

If you feel that you are not eating enough, please research proper dieting.
I have a link on my profile page if you need guidance.
The link is what woke me up from the 1200 cal fog and opened me up to a new way of life.
The sustainable diet that maintains lean mass and burns fat.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Lol

Oh I didn't think you were being snarky at all. I was just explaining my position. You have had your experience with lower calories and it did not work for you. Keep doing you and keep up the good work.

ok i see what you mean. i'm not being snarky though ( i don't think and not on purpose if someone perceives it that way). i am just trying to explain what can happen when you eat that little, as it seems like others are trying to do also. i'm sure they (people eating 1200) are having success. i was too for a while. then i realized what was happening. after a while when i did that, i was hungry all the time, was burning muscle, needed to eat more. i realized my lean body mass was low because of doing this. so i was just trying to explain what can happen. not trying to be mean at all. hoping others can learn from this. very low calories can seem like the right answer but in the long term can actually do harm to your body composition. just a fact, not really anything to debate about it. and it's not really somethign someone can be "mean" or "snarky" about when it's true.

I'm not on a 1200 calorie diet i'm on a a 1600 calorie diet I'm just defending people who were being bashed for being on a 1200 calorie. It's discouraging to them. They are saying it's working for them and they are sustaining it and rather than offering kind words they get snarky rude comments. This site is becoming one big high school where people bully other's for doing something different. If 1200 calories is so detramental then MFP should get rid of this setting all together. However I know plenty of folks and have seen their success stories and are on a 1200 calorie a day lifestyle change. If that works for them good on them.

hey i don't think dan is trying to say that you're not losing weight on 1200 calories. it's just that you sacrifice muscle as well as fat. actually, normal "non obese" kids eat about 1200 calories at age 8. my daughter is 2 and eats about 1000 calories a day. she is not obese either. Take a look here

"The U.S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) recently addressed this issue when it revised the Food Pyramid. The new dietary guidelines are based on caloric needs for each age group. For ages 2 to 3, the USDA recommends a child consume 1,000 to 1,400 calories, depending on his activity level. For age 4, the calorie intake increases to between 1,200 and 2,000. Here are examples of how much your child should be getting in all five food groups."

linked here: http://www.babycenter.com/0_nutrition-guidelines-for-young-children_64359.bc

I don't need anyone "following me" There is nothing to follow I'm congratulating people for doing well and finding something that works for them.
"You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids" you do realize 1 in 3 children in the US are obese right? anywho if you are doing well on 1800 calories congrats to those people as well. But putting people down because they eat 1200 calories is really not helpful whatsoever. And just because more calories worked for you doesn't mean it will work for them. So good for you Dan that you found something that works for you. Keep up the good work. For those still searching I wish you luck.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Well said Lemon!

Hormonal issues
Lean mass loss
Skinny fat

Great job all!

You successfully ate less than most 8 year old kids, maintained if not added more body fat% while losing precious lean mass.

Watboy probably isnt the person to follow in this forum but what do I know?
I've only helped 100s lose fat while maintaining lean mass.

If you feel that you are not eating enough, please research proper dieting.
I have a link on my profile page if you need guidance.
The link is what woke me up from the 1200 cal fog and opened me up to a new way of life.
The sustainable diet that maintains lean mass and burns fat.

Everyone who is on 1200 calories and lost weight and found it sustainable congratulations. Great job , keep it up. I applaud your success, I don't think you need a study to prove how awesome you've done.

Lol