Upped my calories and upped my weight!

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  • ellesoul
    ellesoul Posts: 125 Member
    A few things come into play in this arguement:

    Age, Gender, Activity level, Activity type

    Men generally have a higher metabolism than women and younger people have a higher metabolism than older people.

    The amount you work out and the type of activity you choose to do matters. Yes at the end of the day it's calories in vs. calories out, but the exercise you do will indeed effect your net calories.

    Everyone is different.

    You can definitely lose by upping your calories, you could also gain (if your basal metabolism isn't burning the extra calories and if you're not doing extra activity to burn them off)...

    6 lbs of fat that quickly = impossible
  • jcarnes66
    jcarnes66 Posts: 40 Member
    I started off at 290 pounds (I didn't start MFP until I was already down 10 lbs). I went through the profile numbers and was given about 1740 cals/day. I chose to lose 2 lbs/week. Typically, I eat between 1100 and 1400 calories. It's VERY rare that I end up within 200-300 calories of my total allowance. I do normally eat way over my daily protein 'allowance' and am usually quite a bit under on carbs and fat. I do this because with all the cardio I've been doing, I don't want to lose the muscle I already have.

    I've stuck with this way of eating for 3 months now and am down 53 pounds overall. I weigh myself every morning.

    Recently, I went through about 3 straight days of gaining about 3 pounds overall. I didn't increase or decrease the number of calories I was eating but instead, increased my exercise. Over the next 3 days, I lost those 3 pounds and then some. 'Conventional wisdom' says that you lose weight by eating fewer calories than you expend.

    I have my own conventional wisdom that says 'If you eat calories from crap foods, don't expect to lose fat - no matter how many calories you eat'. It's fairly easy to lose weight....it's tough to lose fat without a proper diet and exercise.

    This is the most difficult part for me because I can't stand vegetables. I wish I liked them...I really do. Other than that, I have to be careful not to eat breads and sugar from cereals, 'fruity' yogurts, etc. I've had to develop a taste for things I probably would have never eaten before!

    Now, with all that said, about once I month I go to Culver's (or somewhere similar) and have a double cheeseburger and fries! I'd have to off myself if I couldn't do that once in awhile! I just make sure I put in some extra exercise around that day. :)
  • JustJennie1
    JustJennie1 Posts: 3,749 Member
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    Same here. What works for one person might not work for everyone. The whole point of my trying to lose weight is to expel more calories than what I'm taking in. The simple equation to losing weight is Eat Less, Move More which is what I've been doing. Granted I know that I won't be able to sustain what I'm doing right now for the long-run but for right now it's working ok for me.
  • callmeBAM
    callmeBAM Posts: 445 Member
    A calorie isn't a calorie.

    If I upped my calorie intake by eating cotton candy versus... something healthy, I would gain weight. Just saying, you can't make a simplistic statement like I increased calories and gained weight, so I should not increase calories.

    Looking at your journal, your daily fat intake looks VERY low! Try getting more of you calories from natural fats instead of carbs and your body should react in a positive way.
  • eeebee
    eeebee Posts: 471 Member
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    Oh no...not another one!!
    Conventional wisdom is what got us into this mess.

    She's lost 47 lbs and I've dropped 6 sizes and gained muscle at the same time. Both schools of thought are present here, and the OP can choose the one that makes most sense to her.

    I am stunned by how many people seem to get personally offended when people choose not to eat more. It's fine to disagree, but some of these "rebuttals" are unnecessarily rude.

    Totally agree! Each to their own etc....
  • mixedfeelings
    mixedfeelings Posts: 904 Member
    I gained around 100lbs eating between 700-1500 calories, I would eat very little in the week and a bit more at the weekend and couldn't work out why I was gaining. I've upped my calories since joining this site, I make sure my net is always at least 1200 but days when I work out I'm eating between 1600-1900 calories, the first three months were slow but it's now starting to come off, as my ticker shows, this is even with eating the odd bit of chocolate cake! It can take time but if you keep cutting calories eventually your body will give up, mine did, I had no energy and the gaining snowballed.
  • msbanana
    msbanana Posts: 793 Member
    Depending on how obese you are will depend on if you can "build" lean mass while at a deficit.
    These types of results are only seen in Obese 2 and Obese 3 people where ATP is concentrated enough in their muscles that they can stimulate growth.

    If OP isnt fueling first her Basal Metabolic needs then she should just throw in the towel now.

    You need fuel to live and work and play.
    Without it youll eventually break down.

    Now if OP is eating back all her cals and netting above BMR then she will do just fine.

    I think people get confused about dieting and feel that its primarily working out then eating right.

    Truth is its 70% diet, 20% sleep and 10% working out.
    Without the first 2 in place you will increase your diet timeline longer than it really needs to be.

    Agreed. It took me a long time to get this through my thick skull and I did lose about 80lbs using the "conventional" method BUT I stalled out and switched up my diet. I started eating a higher calorie, higher protein, higher fat diet and I dropped the last 40 super fast like. In that time period I also made HUGE strength gains where as I wasn't making any sort of gains at all as I lost the first 80. I was too worn down from netting 800 calories a day.

    When I upped my cals I did gain some weight (I had more food in my guts on a regular basis) but once that stabilized (which actually for me took a couple months) I started dropping weight again...
  • breyn2004
    breyn2004 Posts: 162 Member
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    I'm not sure that agree with this. MFP set me at 1200 calories... I tried that and I did not feel that it was enough to support my exercise, etc. I upped my calories to 1500 and I lost 70 pounds in just over a year. I do not eat my exercise calories back, but I do get my regular calories in. You have to take in enough calories to support your daily activity so that your body doesn't go into starvation mode. I upped my calories to maintenance a couple of months ago (1740) and I also added strength training. For fear of gaining waiting due to the calorie increase, I still stayed closer to 1500. But after a few weeks of that, I weighed with my nutritionist and found that I was up in fat and down in lean which says "starvation" mode. I made a point to meet my 1740 goal and I have since lost a few more pounds of fat mass and gained lean mass!

    Good luck to you! It's a tough learning process....everyone's body is different. Hang in there!

    Happy Logging! :happy:
  • breyn2004
    breyn2004 Posts: 162 Member
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    No offense but dont listen to this advice.
    Its a surefire way to drop hormones and maintain fat.
    Yikes!

    Continue eating at your rate and measure your progress.
    The human body can fluctuate up to 5lbs or more daily.
    If the body fat doesnt drop after a month then adjust macros.


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  • Helloitsdan
    Helloitsdan Posts: 5,564 Member
    Thank you all for your suggestions, but I'm still stumped with the conflicting advice.

    in terms of exercise, I run 3-4 miles 5/6 days a week and strength train with 5kg dumbells 3x a week.

    I calculated the following on fattofit:
    BMR: 1490
    TDEE: 2223

    The thing is, if I'm gaining on a net of 1300-1400, surely logic tells me I will gain on 1490-2223?

    How much am I supposed to bump my calories up by?

    Thank you all for your replies! <3

    Ideally, you should net somewhere between 1490 and 2223 calories per day.

    1490 is your basal metabolic rate, or the energy needed to sustain your most vital bodily functions (such as breathing and maintaining body temperature). You should net at least this amount every day to ensure that you're not depriving your body of the energy it needs to survive.

    However, unless you're in a coma (unlikely, because you're here on the forum), you actually expend far more than 1490 calories every day. In addition to breathing and such, you get up and move around and exercise and so on. That's where your total daily energy expenditure comes into play. 2223 calories is the total amount of energy needed to get you through your normal daily activities.

    In theory, if you ate exactly 2223 calories, you would expend every single one of those calories and thus maintain your weight. If you ate less than that, you'd need to obtain the missing energy from your body's own energy stores. This should result in weight loss.

    If I were you, I'd up my net to around 1600 calories a day for a while (give it a month or two), and see how I feel. Feel free to experiment with calories and macronutrient ratios and exercise levels, but I definitely would not restrict your calories any further. Your maintenance calories should be pretty close to your estimated TDEE, so over time, you'd want to work up to around two thousand calories or so -- and it looks like you're pretty close to your goal weight, so now is a good time to begin the transition to maintenance.

    (Edited for typographical errors -- I haven't had my daily coffee yet, so I'm not fully functioning at the moment!)


    ^^^Din Ding Ding!!!

    winner Winner chicken Dinner!

    Gang!

    Youll gain weight when you work out hard.
    The bodies natural reaction to injury is to become enflamed.
    Post deadlift and squat days, i'll weigh up to 5lbs more because of muscle glycogen, water and becoming enflamed durring the repair process.
    For those saying to eat VLCD, at some point your body will use lean mass for fuel so keep it up!
    Youll lose a lot of weight!
    In lean mass!
    But you wont look good naked!
    Its the road to Skinny Fat City!

    You have to first meet your Basal Metabolic needs, then fuel your day with food and water.
    If you dont have the Diet and rest part down you are doing it wrong!

    Oh! And to the person saying we are all different????
    Read 1 physiology book then get back to us.
  • watboy
    watboy Posts: 380 Member
    Dislike.
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    No offense but dont listen to this advice.
    Its a surefire way to drop hormones and maintain fat.
    Yikes!

    Continue eating at your rate and measure your progress.
    The human body can fluctuate up to 5lbs or more daily.
    If the body fat doesnt drop after a month then adjust macros.


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  • watboy
    watboy Posts: 380 Member
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    What works for some doesn't work for others. If you feel that you are gaining weight on that amount of calories then go lower again and see if it works. Personally I can't lose weight unless I seriously resrict carbs and eat under 1200 a day as well. That's what works for me. It wouldn't have been ideal at 20 but I am 53 and my hormonal state, lifestyle and metabolism are completely different.
    It's your body and only you can determine what works for you, sometimes you just have to experiment a bit to find out what is the best regime to suit your metabolism and sometimes you have to just change what you are doing to relieve the boredom and give you a bit of kick start. Do some research, find a weight loss plan that you like the sound of and follow it for a month to see what happens, try another one, try a low carb one, then a low fat one, then a strict calorie counted one until you find a way of eating that is sustainable, enjoyable and is producing the results that you want. It's a lifetime journey.
  • amysol
    amysol Posts: 83 Member
    Ignore the eat less exercise more, as that will send your body into starvation mode and you will gain. For me, I had this problem time and time again with the dozens of diets I tried. I finally got it straight now with the new program I am on because I am putting the perfect nutrition and calories in my body every single day. That in conjunction with this website keep me on track and exactly where I need to be.

    If you are getting too few calories this can be a problem. Follow the caloric intake this site says that you need, and make sure you exercise. I am now down 50 lbs because of the new plan I am on and the best part is I took at 1 month break from it in the middle and I did NOT gain an ounce. That's how I know I've found the right program, when I stop, and I don't gain! Woot Woot!

    Eat the calories the site says to eat. Put proper nutrition in your body!
  • LorinaLynn
    LorinaLynn Posts: 13,247 Member
    There was two ways I lost weight.

    One was by lowering my calories more and more and more and more until I was eating under 1000 calories a day.

    One was by eating the RIGHT amount of calories, which for me was around 1800-2000 (total, including exercise calories).

    The first way, I often struggled to lose even a half pound every OTHER week.

    The second way, I lost on average one pound a week for about seven months until I reached my goal weight.

    Details here: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/topics/show/494091-i-just-don-t-care-anymore :smile:
  • rchupka87
    rchupka87 Posts: 542 Member
    Here's some starvation science for you. And this will probably be long.

    When I joined MFP - I did the same as every other newbie. I dropped my calories to 1200 (why is THIS the magic number, anyway?). I think I actually made it to my 1200c goal once. Then I would work out EVERY DAY - burning 500-600 calories. I never ate my exercise calories back. I was netting about 700 calories per day. And THAT is a generous estimate. I was STARVING MYSELF!!!

    Two weeks ago - I upped my calories, lowered my cardio, and started strength training. In the first few days - I gained a pound or two. My weight on the scale fluctuated for the first few days up and down, up and down. Then.... BAM!!! 6 pounds off the scale. The next day - 1 more pound. The day after that, a half a pound.

    Then - This week - I have been sick. It's hard to eat anything when your throat is so swollen you can barely swallow. So, after two days of NOT eating (which is basically what I was doing BEFORE I upped my calories), I have put on 4 pounds in two days. Now, OBVIOUSLY I have not gained 4 pounds in two days - especially when I have not eaten anything. BUT your body starts a process...Whoa... No food, well, don't use anything we don't need. Retain the fat. Retain the calories. Burn the muscle -she's not using it anyway. Retain the water.

    Hmmmmm - I eat, and I lose weight. I don't eat, I gain weight.... WTF?!?!

    For those of you NON believers, do some research. No, REALLY. I'm being serious. Our bodies have been conditioned to react like this since the beginning of the existence of our species. Lose the fat in summer, when it's hot, and we don't need insulation. Pack on the fat before winter, for insulation, and because food is scarce in the winter when you are living in a cave and there are no crops growing. Your body is built to store fat and energy for times of famine. If you don't feed your body - your body thinks you're starving and slows down your metobolic rate to conserve what energy you have stored. It doesn't matter that you are telling yourself that you are not starving yourself. Your body doesn't believe you, and doesn't need you to tell it what to do. It already knows what it is supposed to do. Extra fuel, get rid of it. Not enough fuel, eh, better hold on to that.

    Our bodies were not meant to be starved. There was no such thing as a low, or no carb diet before some guy decided that people would buy into that. All carbs are bad. Really? Well, I guess fruits, vegetables and grains are out of my diet. Low fat? Damnnit. There went meat, and dairy. What's left to eat? (I am skipping a lot of food here, but you get my point.)

    We are supposed to have a well balanced diet, including fat, protiens, and carbs. WE are SUPPOSED to eat enough to allow our bodies to function properly! Now, you don't get to eat all day, and not get off the couch. You still have to get up and move! Our bodies were designed for movement!

    I understand that everyone has their own opinions. But as someone who has been on both sides of the spectrum - I am a believer. I was cautious. I was doubtful. I did my research. I read books, and blogs, and medical digests. And I found something that is working for me. If you are just starting out - give it time. AT least 3 months. Your body doesn't handle sudden change well. It needs time to adapt to new circumstances.

    And for those of you on the starvation diets - don't knock us eaters for what we do. Don't say that something won't work when you haven't tried it. I have one question though. Do you only go by the number on the scale? Do you take measurements? What is your body fat percentage? As a former starvation dieter, I know how I was. The number was the only thing that mattered. And I lost 60 pounds! Go me!! But guess what - I was still at 49% body fat. Just because the number goes down, doesn't mean you are losing FAT. You might be losing OTHER important things your body needs.

    Just one girls opinion. Good luck to everyone!
  • essjay76
    essjay76 Posts: 465 Member
    Good luck on your journey. My only hope is that you find a sensible approach to a lifestyle change that will work for you. If you can live off of so few calories a day, then by all means do it.
  • It worked for me - I went from 1200 to 1420 and it broke my plateau.
  • watboy
    watboy Posts: 380 Member
    why does everyone assume that someone who is doign 1200-1300 calories is "starving"? I don't agree with that as a blanket statement. I don't know I just don't get it. Everyone is entitlted to their opinion. I've read some many stuides that debunk the starvation mode myth. I've read studies that support it but the conditions were so ridicolous that most regular folks wouldn't have issues. I guess this will alway sbe an argument no matter what science or individual experiences prove. I say people are different some people say they are not. Even though umm there are anomolies in hormones, in metabolic rates and genetics. All I know is everyone has the right to chose what they eat or don't eat and the right to disagree. I personally try to eat 1400 calories a day , sometimes I don't get there sometimes I do. I'm not trying to limit myself I just don't personally eat a lot because I never really have. I don't do it to lose weight it's just how I eat. Good luck to all who are still looking for something that works.
    Here's some starvation science for you. And this will probably be long.

    When I joined MFP - I did the same as every other newbie. I dropped my calories to 1200 (why is THIS the magic number, anyway?). I think I actually made it to my 1200c goal once. Then I would work out EVERY DAY - burning 500-600 calories. I never ate my exercise calories back. I was netting about 700 calories per day. And THAT is a generous estimate. I was STARVING MYSELF!!!

    Two weeks ago - I upped my calories, lowered my cardio, and started strength training. In the first few days - I gained a pound or two. My weight on the scale fluctuated for the first few days up and down, up and down. Then.... BAM!!! 6 pounds off the scale. The next day - 1 more pound. The day after that, a half a pound.

    Then - This week - I have been sick. It's hard to eat anything when your throat is so swollen you can barely swallow. So, after two days of NOT eating (which is basically what I was doing BEFORE I upped my calories), I have put on 4 pounds in two days. Now, OBVIOUSLY I have not gained 4 pounds in two days - especially when I have not eaten anything. BUT your body starts a process...Whoa... No food, well, don't use anything we don't need. Retain the fat. Retain the calories. Burn the muscle -she's not using it anyway. Retain the water.

    Hmmmmm - I eat, and I lose weight. I don't eat, I gain weight.... WTF?!?!

    For those of you NON believers, do some research. No, REALLY. I'm being serious. Our bodies have been conditioned to react like this since the beginning of the existence of our species. Lose the fat in summer, when it's hot, and we don't need insulation. Pack on the fat before winter, for insulation, and because food is scarce in the winter when you are living in a cave and there are no crops growing. Your body is built to store fat and energy for times of famine. If you don't feed your body - your body thinks you're starving and slows down your metobolic rate to conserve what energy you have stored. It doesn't matter that you are telling yourself that you are not starving yourself. Your body doesn't believe you, and doesn't need you to tell it what to do. It already knows what it is supposed to do. Extra fuel, get rid of it. Not enough fuel, eh, better hold on to that.

    Our bodies were not meant to be starved. There was no such thing as a low, or no carb diet before some guy decided that people would buy into that. All carbs are bad. Really? Well, I guess fruits, vegetables and grains are out of my diet. Low fat? Damnnit. There went meat, and dairy. What's left to eat? (I am skipping a lot of food here, but you get my point.)

    We are supposed to have a well balanced diet, including fat, protiens, and carbs. WE are SUPPOSED to eat enough to allow our bodies to function properly! Now, you don't get to eat all day, and not get off the couch. You still have to get up and move! Our bodies were designed for movement!

    I understand that everyone has their own opinions. But as someone who has been on both sides of the spectrum - I am a believer. I was cautious. I was doubtful. I did my research. I read books, and blogs, and medical digests. And I found something that is working for me. If you are just starting out - give it time. AT least 3 months. Your body doesn't handle sudden change well. It needs time to adapt to new circumstances.

    And for those of you on the starvation diets - don't knock us eaters for what we do. Don't say that something won't work when you haven't tried it. I have one question though. Do you only go by the number on the scale? Do you take measurements? What is your body fat percentage? As a former starvation dieter, I know how I was. The number was the only thing that mattered. And I lost 60 pounds! Go me!! But guess what - I was still at 49% body fat. Just because the number goes down, doesn't mean you are losing FAT. You might be losing OTHER important things your body needs.

    Just one girls opinion. Good luck to everyone!
  • amoffatt
    amoffatt Posts: 674 Member
    Everyone has to find what works for you. I did both lower calories no exercise lost a ton of weight at once, gained it back as fast too when I told myself I personally was not eating healthy. I eat the calories needed, most of my exercise calories I ate back and seem to be loosing more and feel better, more energy to do the intense workouts. It took me quite a while to up calories because I myself has been taught to eat less move more, but it is also what is eatin.
  • rchupka87
    rchupka87 Posts: 542 Member
    Because that's the science of it. For example - a 5 foot, 7 inch female who is 25 years old, would have a BMR of 1200.4 - if she weighed 80 pounds. Which, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - she would be 46 pounds UNDER her "ideal" body weight. A male - at the same height and age would have a BMR of 1200.4 if he weighed 72.8 pounds. For him, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - he would be 65.2 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT.

    Thats not an assumption. That's fact.
  • hanna6774
    hanna6774 Posts: 225
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    Oh no...not another one!!

    Conventional wisdom is what got us into this mess.

    Ditto!
  • Annafly3
    Annafly3 Posts: 63
    bump
  • Hope1971
    Hope1971 Posts: 110 Member
    Interesting facts...

    When planning to lose weight, a lot of people worry about losing their muscle shape, such as their brawny biceps or their six-pack. Thus, the question arises: Does the body burn fat or muscle first? Both fat and muscle tissues can be burned to provide heat and energy to the body but to understand if the body burns fat or muscle first, let us take a second look at the fat burning process.

    When we eat, we take in nutrients as well as fat, whether what we eat is fatty or not. The body then breaks down the food, after which it disperses the nutrients and some fat to be absorbed in the bloodstream and used in bodily processes. Afterwards, the body stores leftover fat under the skin and in various organs throughout the body. In order for the human body to continue existing, it needs to use up the stored energy. The stored energy does not only come from fat but from glycogen, proteins, carbohydrates and muscle tissue. To know if the body burns fat or muscle first, let us review these sources of energy.

    The first thing the body burns is protein, mainly because protein cannot be stored in the body. Proteins from alcohol are burned first followed by other proteins. These nutrients are dispersed in the bloodstream and any excess is channeled towards the excretory system to be removed from the body. Thus, you can rarely complain that your body has too much protein. Next, the body burns carbohydrates, both simple and complex, with glycogen being its main form. Glycogen is sugar stored mostly in the liver and controls blood sugar levels as well as providing most of the energy the body needs. Once glycogen has been used up, the body then burns up fat, breaking it down into smaller units to be absorbed in the blood stream. Muscle comes last. Thus, the answer to the question ‘does the body burn fat or muscle first’ is fat.

    The idea that the body burns muscle first before fat may come from the fact that glycogen is also stored in muscle tissues. However, it is the glycogen in them and not the tissues themselves that get burned. In fact, some nutritionists and health experts claim that burning muscle tissues is not healthy. Muscles, after all, are necessary to perform body functions. If you feel you are burning muscles more than fat, you might want to ask your fitness trainer about it and possibly switch to a better routine. Also, if the muscles burn first, there would be little use in building and toning them to burn fat since that would mean they are used up first before the fat they are supposed to help break down. The next time you face the mirror and ask yourself if you should lose weight and whether your body burns fat or muscle first, relax. As long as you exercise regularly and eat sensibly, you’re bound to get the results you want and good health in the process.
  • boggsmeister
    boggsmeister Posts: 292 Member
    To gain 6 pounds of fat in a month you would have to increase your intake to 700 calories a day more than you burn. Likely a 1000 calorie a day raise (or more) from what you were previously eating.
  • thecazstewart
    thecazstewart Posts: 131 Member
    Bump :-)
  • watboy
    watboy Posts: 380 Member
    I respectfully disagree. Explain an entire race of people who primarily eat fish and rice who are in greater health mentally and physcically and don't eat 1800 calories a day. Or the hundreds of people who are on here saying it's working for them and are telling you their experiences and also noting their numbers are far as weight as far as cholelesterol or going from pre-diabetic to healthy and stable. From barely being able to go up a flight of stairs to playing with their children and grandchildren. Or the people who are now satisfied and no longer suicidal because they feel like they have somethign worth living for. I can also post research and studies that debunk 'starvation mode" but I've done that so many times I'm kinda tired of it.

    Because that's the science of it. For example - a 5 foot, 7 inch female who is 25 years old, would have a BMR of 1200.4 - if she weighed 80 pounds. Which, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - she would be 46 pounds UNDER her "ideal" body weight. A male - at the same height and age would have a BMR of 1200.4 if he weighed 72.8 pounds. For him, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - he would be 65.2 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT.

    Thats not an assumption. That's fact.
  • 2kidsandadonut
    2kidsandadonut Posts: 137 Member
    So a little while ago I posted about eating too little calories and exercising too much. I was SUPER guilty. I spent 3 hours a day working out in the gym and I was skipping meals and eating barely 1000 calories a day. I was also losing TONS of weight. After my post and most of the same advice everyone here is giving and speaking to a friend I upped my calories. My friend suggested I start eating protein bars because I have a really hard time eating in the morning (it makes me nauseous). So I started doing this I started drinking protein shakes in the morning to avoid nausea and eating a bar or two during my workout as I switched from running to swimming. I also cut back on my exercise dropping down to two hours a day rather than three. At first I gained about 4lbs I was devastated! But now I'm losing again I've dropped 2 of the 4lbs I've gained this week. I was like you I didn't feel like I was starving because my body was so used to running on that many calories. I felt great after working out for hours because of the endorphins. Now however, I see that I wasn't doing myself any favors by not upping my calories. I don't agree that eating under 1200 calories is necessarily 'starving' yourself because I wasn't starving and I had maintained that level for YEARS. However, it is not fueling your body efficiently. Its like a car. You can put diesel in an unleaded car and it will run for a while but eventually it will burn out the engine. Not putting in the correct fuel into your body is the same thing. Especially, since you are so close to your goal weight I would suggest sticking with the higher calories.
  • beckajw
    beckajw Posts: 1,728 Member
    Because that's the science of it. For example - a 5 foot, 7 inch female who is 25 years old, would have a BMR of 1200.4 - if she weighed 80 pounds. Which, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - she would be 46 pounds UNDER her "ideal" body weight. A male - at the same height and age would have a BMR of 1200.4 if he weighed 72.8 pounds. For him, on the low end of the "healthy weight" scale - he would be 65.2 POUNDS UNDERWEIGHT.

    Thats not an assumption. That's fact.

    It's an assumption that someon is 5'7". Not everyone is. Some people's BMR actually is only 1200.
  • liftingheavy
    liftingheavy Posts: 551 Member
    I respectfully disagree. Explain an entire race of people who primarily eat fish and rice who are in greater health mentally and physcically and don't eat 1800 calories a day. Or the hundreds of people who are on here saying it's working for them and are telling you their experiences and also noting their numbers are far as weight as far as cholelesterol or going from pre-diabetic to healthy and stable. From barely being able to go up a flight of stairs to playing with their children and grandchildren. Or the people who are now satisfied and no longer suicidal because they feel like they have somethign worth living for. I can also post research and studies that debunk 'starvation mode" but I've done that so many times I'm kinda tired of it.

    Thank You!
  • anaussie
    anaussie Posts: 88 Member
    I would never up my calories in order to lose weight. Conventional wisdom says if you want to lose weight eat less and exercise more. I don't know why some people on MFP say to eat more food. It makes no sense to me. I do eat some of my exercise calories on days I am extra hungry but I try not to. I'll agree we probably shouldn't eat below 1200 calories but even occasionally I'll do that. I don't believe in eating if you're not hungry. All my life this is what I have been taught and that is the way I've lost 47 pounds. If eating more food really works for some well good for them. I know it would never work for me. :flowerforyou:

    Ditto.....

    I was 98 kilos at my heaviest. I lost by eating less but healthy. Diabetes aside, I'm in excellent health for a man of my age. :blushing: