Lost 14 pounds since Tuesday juicing!!!!
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As for the documentary. he had to have blood tests done every 10days and was closely monitored by his doctor.
Due to other pre-existing health conditions and,if you recall, none of the blood tests showed any issues for him, He steadily became healthier.
That being said, he did do this over several months and not in a week. And he drank plenty of juice each day. He did not starve himself.0 -
Congrats if you lost weight doing this, but please don't say it is healthy just because they made a movie about it. I watched a movie last night where Will Smith punched an alien in the face and Jeff Goldblum saved the earth with a computer virus...that doesn't mean that earth is being invaded or that Mac Airbooks can ward off alien motherships.
In all seriousness, I would caution against trying this as anything more than a possible option to jumpstart your weight loss if you are at a plateau. Most of the loss will be water loss, and the weight will not stay off unless you continue on a healthy diet and exercise routine. Just juicing by itself is a fad diet, just like the milkshake diet, coconut diet, or <insert your favorite short term restrictive diet here>. You could accomplish the exact same thing by drinking only water and taking multivitamin for a couple days. Doing this any longer than a few days could be more harmful than helpful in the long run. Keep perspective and good luck on your continued weight loss0 -
I applaud your efforts to improve your health. I also did a juice fast and unlike what was predicted by some responders, I am still here and doing great. What happens is a lot of us move to groups on this site for people who are interested in this approach. There are at least two: http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/328-juice-fasting-fat-sick-and-nearly-dead and http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/2087-forks-over-knives . What I loved most about my juice fast was that it changed my cravings. I am more interested in healthy unprocessed food than ever, and I am so satisfied with my meals! When I have tried other approaches, I often wanted more or something that I wasn't supposed to have. Now I really think I am more in tune with what my body needs. Anyway, congratulations and best wishes for continued success.0
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OMG...Why all of these debates all of the time...She was just sharing that she is proud of herself for losing 14lbs very quickly...Some of us have tried this stuff in the past but we probably didn't have 100 people telling us that we were stupid for doing it....This is ridiculous....We are supposed to support people on here not put them down....She said she was doing it only for a short time...Not a lifetime so just say congrats or don't say anythiing....This is just plain idiotic that people act like this when someone does something that you don't agree with...GHEESH!!!!
Congrats to you on losing 14lbs gir!!
**I only read the first couple of pages of this thread so I am going by that...I had to stop reading to make a comment...Just sayin'0 -
Ditto - juice fasting is about healing the body from the inside out. For those being critical - please do research. You might benefit from a short fast yourself! IJS :flowerforyou:I did the same fast a year ago and I lost quite a bit of weight in 2 weeks. I never gained anything back, until a few months later when I was pregnant with my 3rd child. I also had my healthiest pregnancy and wasn't sick at all, unlike my previous pregnancy just a year before when I was sick the entire time. The fasting may not have had anything to do with it but I know I was healthier after it!
I would strongly recommend watching Forks Over Knives for those posting who believe eating mostly fruit and vegetables is unhealthy.:)
Nobody is arguing that eating only fruits and vegetables is unhealthy. I'm a vegetarian and think that all people should eat is fruits and veggies. Juicing, where you only eat the juice of said fruits is what sounds unhealthy as you're nto eating anything sustainable.
Here's what the Mayo Clinic has to say via Wikipedia: "The Mayo Clinic has responded to several of these claims by noting that the effects of drinking juice can be helpful, benign, or, at worst, counter-productive (depending on a person's motivation). Its main conclusion is that there is no scientifically-based advantage of juicing over simply consuming a fruit or vegetable in its original form and by showing that, at best, these claims are derived from research based on eating fruits and vegetables, not drinking them. The Mayo Clinic (and some juicing proponents such as Joe Cross) advise potential "juicers" to speak with their primary medical providers before beginning any type of short or long term juicing program."
If you're a person who has done research on juicing, struggled with chronic illnesses, and worked with Naturopath MDs (who look at how your internal systems work together and use prescriptions as a last resort) the Mayo Clinic is not going to be your primary resource of wisdom on this subject. Just saying, from someone who juiced 7 days for a skin disorder (which cleared it up, by the way).0 -
I have seen this documentary and concluded that is IS healthy. These two men have been seen by doctors on a regular basis and they also exercise. It is all up to the person if they gain it back. These two men have not gained it back. They continue to eat right and exercise. It is a very good documentary.
I like how all these people are saying "I'm not a professional, but.." or I am no expert, but.. this is unhealthy". That's right, you aren't experts, so you don't know. Experts are the doctors who tracked these two men throughout their whole journey, which was about three months, and they said it was a healthy way to diet.
Protein can be taken in supplements, so there is no deficit.0 -
Can people suggest types/makes of juicers that waste as little as possible. I have one from Argos that is their cookworks range and a lot of the juice gets lost in the machine...I am in the UK, but as I say, even if it's just a style, Id be happy for any pointers!
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Wow! The dude hopped up on steroids didn't get this much crap. I have a hard time believing that drinking your fruits and veggies is going to kill you. Go for it. It's a lot healthier than some of the other crap people do on here and not get this much grief. I am sorry for the haters. Your body, your choice. I have seen the movie and I assure you Phil didn't lose 300 pounds of water! Feel free to add me. I don't judge0
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I wonder what happened to the OP and how she made out? Would be curious to know. (maybe she gained back her weight and that's why she's not responding???). Oh well.0
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Can people suggest types/makes of juicers that waste as little as possible. I have one from Argos that is their cookworks range and a lot of the juice gets lost in the machine...I am in the UK, but as I say, even if it's just a style, Id be happy for any pointers!
Thanks
I use a mini-blender I got at Target for $19.950 -
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jlm962:
It would be nice if you could come to site like this, post something you were excited about and not get beat up by a bunch of judgmental people, each of whom knows the perfect path to absolute fitness. People tend to overlook a lot of facts because your way is not their way. Like the fact that you never said you lost 14 lbs of pure fat, or the fact that you never said you were going to do this forever because it's the only sustainable way to lose weight.
I've sat on both sides of this fence, and I say congratulations for taking a step in a direction you thought was important for your health. Weight loss and fitness is a journey of discovery that only you can undertake and guide. Feedback is an important part of that process, but I would ignore anyone who speaks in absolutes.
I did a "juice fast" for 30 days, mostly as cleansing experiment, not necessarily to lose weight. I drank 48 ounces of raw juice a day from fruits and vegetables (along with another 48 ounces of water and some cleansing teas) on weekdays and ate raw solid foods on the weekends. I felt excellent, had plenty of energy and was definitely not dehydrated. Nor did I waste away into nothingness, go into cardiac arrest or slip into a coma because I drank too much juice.
Overall I think I lost about 20 lbs in a month, which despite the arguments from the MFP juice slayers, was not water weight. Was it muscle? Maybe some of it. I think a good portion of it was eliminated wastes. It doesn't matter, because I wasn't concerned about losing weight.
I agree with the juice naysayers in saying that it's not a sustainable weight loss program. But, it was a great way for me to learn about my health and cleanse for awhile. It also taught me something about the unhealthy nature of many foods I'd been eating, and my will power and ability see a goal to its conclusion.
Yes, I now count my calories, exercise and generally fall in line with the juice haters on principles of weight loss and control. Unfortunately, when it comes to weight loss, they are right about the permanence and simplicity of diet and exercise. In fact, I don't juice at all.
Does that mean that your post deserved the flaming it got? Not in the slightest.
Congrats on your discovery! Keep moving in a positive direction and find something sustainable, because you're a hell of a lot better off than the tens of millions of other people who aren't paying attention at all. And, if you want to juice now and then, because you've found you feel better afterward, DO IT!0 -
People always trying to give advice on what is not healthy . If you know what is healthy then you would not be on MFP trying to lose weight , because you would have never consumed so
many un healthy calories to be fat. People losel 5 lbs and swear they autritionist0 -
I'm sorry could anyone tell me how to make that special juice?
It's great that you're losing a lot of weight so fast but i think you should take at least 1 "food meal" like breakfast or lunch, that way you could take that juice for a longer time. The results will be better, last longer and you will be able to enjoy eating.
I'm no professional, just someone interested in that juice recipe ;P
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Fasting is NEVER a good idea. It's pointless.
Almost as bad as the "Tape-worm Diet."0 -
People always trying to give advice on what is not healthy . If you know what is healthy then you would not be on MFP trying to lose weight , because you would have never consumed so
many un healthy calories to be fat. People losel 5 lbs and swear they autritionist
What is a "autritionist?"0 -
If you watch the movie on Netflix you would realize that juicing is a great reboot plan. It cleanses you out and you lose extra water weight. It is pretty much a detox from the bad foods you eat. The reason you juice the fruits and vegetables instead of eating them as is is because you have to consume a huge amount to get the calories you need in a day. Eating the fruits and veggies as is is impossible for any person. You would feel so stuffed and miserable. So, you drink it instead. You still get all the great nutrients from them and your able to take in more. Once you are done with the fast you will probably gain weight because you are eating more calories BUT if you make healthy choices, you could go a long way because your metabolism is high and your body is running as it should. On the fast you realize what your body can run off of. You realize you need to eat to live not live to eat. It is a helpful plan if done the right way.0
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I don't think this will end well, somehow ..0
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People always trying to give advice on what is not healthy . If you know what is healthy then you would not be on MFP trying to lose weight , because you would have never consumed so
many un healthy calories to be fat. People losel 5 lbs and swear they autritionist
What is a "autritionist?"
Sorry, but this seriously made me laugh out loud :laugh: :laugh: :sad: :sad: :laugh: :laugh:
I think it was just a typo. I think she meant to say 'people lose 5lbs and swear they nutrionist [sic]'0 -
jlm962:
It would be nice if you could come to site like this, post something you were excited about and not get beat up by a bunch of judgmental people, each of whom knows the perfect path to absolute fitness. People tend to overlook a lot of facts because your way is not their way. Like the fact that you never said you lost 14 lbs of pure fat, or the fact that you never said you were going to do this forever because it's the only sustainable way to lose weight.
I've sat on both sides of this fence, and I say congratulations for taking a step in a direction you thought was important for your health. Weight loss and fitness is a journey of discovery that only you can undertake and guide. Feedback is an important part of that process, but I would ignore anyone who speaks in absolutes.
I did a "juice fast" for 30 days, mostly as cleansing experiment, not necessarily to lose weight. I drank 48 ounces of raw juice a day from fruits and vegetables (along with another 48 ounces of water and some cleansing teas) on weekdays and ate raw solid foods on the weekends. I felt excellent, had plenty of energy and was definitely not dehydrated. Nor did I waste away into nothingness, go into cardiac arrest or slip into a coma because I drank too much juice.
Overall I think I lost about 20 lbs in a month, which despite the arguments from the MFP juice slayers, was not water weight. Was it muscle? Maybe some of it. I think a good portion of it was eliminated wastes. It doesn't matter, because I wasn't concerned about losing weight.
I agree with the juice naysayers in saying that it's not a sustainable weight loss program. But, it was a great way for me to learn about my health and cleanse for awhile. It also taught me something about the unhealthy nature of many foods I'd been eating, and my will power and ability see a goal to its conclusion.
Yes, I now count my calories, exercise and generally fall in line with the juice haters on principles of weight loss and control. Unfortunately, when it comes to weight loss, they are right about the permanence and simplicity of diet and exercise. In fact, I don't juice at all.
Does that mean that your post deserved the flaming it got? Not in the slightest.
Congrats on your discovery! Keep moving in a positive direction and find something sustainable, because you're a hell of a lot better off than the tens of millions of other people who aren't paying attention at all. And, if you want to juice now and then, because you've found you feel better afterward, DO IT!
Thanks! That is just about what I was thinking!
Just read a Berenstain Bear book with my daughter and it still had the "old" food pyramid in, with grains as the base of every healthy diet and then fruit, then dairy and last of all proteins. That is not so long ago and was accepted as the healthy norm. How many of you still agree to that?
For every food study that claims to go one way, there are another five that claim the opposite. If you ask Dr. Fuhrmann, what she does is great and if you ask Dr. Atkins she is killing herself.
Can't we just all be a bit tolerant and just accept that other people handle their problems in their own way? Sure OP knows she won't live like this forever and will eventually change into a sustainable eating style, whatever this may be for her.0 -
Too many chiefs...not enough indians :drinker:0
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Trust me, there is no magic bullet for losing weight. I am 75 and have been up and down the spectrum of weight loss and fitness. At 75, I know now that it will take sustainable life style change, regular exercise and reduced calories. You'd think I would have been commited to this long ago...I was for a length of time but those eating habits creep up. Then I found MFP through my daughter-in-law and I am here to stay because I am now with MFP people who know what it takes and have made the commitment and are supporting .I love MFP.0
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Why is everyone getting all their info from a movie instead of doing the research themselves? That's the thing that is starting to bother me. For instance, if I made an anti-juice documentary and put it on Netflix, would everyone instantly start believing that juicing was BAD for them? You can't just listen to one side of an argument, you need to do research and find the pros and cons.0
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I think you should do what is right for you, As everyone said, just worried you will put it all back on when you start to eat real food.
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Hmm, doesn't sound healthy. Most fasts are for a day to 3, no more. Your body needs more than just 'juice'. Especially if you are exercsing, your body needs fuel.
I'm not a professional but I say healthy foods, water and exercise will get you where you wanna be. It may be slow, but there's a reason it takes time to lose weight. Besides, you didn't gain it overnight, don't expect it to go away overnight either.
But to each their own. :indifferent:
Its ironic that I just happened to have finished making my juice smoothie and drinking it before sitting down to my computer and finding this thread.
I get about 20% of my calories from juice smoothies...and it is every bit as healthy as if I ate the entire food.
Why? I put the entire food into a blender and I drink the whole thing, pulp and all.
I've lost 43 pounds in less than three months (a little over 80 days). I work out every day. I make sure I drink at least eight cups (half gallon) of water every day.
I feel great. I'm not weak. I make sure I get all my calories and I make sure I stay hydrated.
I thought "fat, sick and nearly dead" was an awesome movie and very effective for the people that tried it, but they didn't do it in a week. Everyone of them did it over months with exercise and a wide variety of vegetable. If you remember, he said in the movie his budget for veggies on this juice diet was close to $60 a day. That is a lot of freakin' juice, I don't care what kind of prices you are paying for produce.
Anyway, don't sell yourself short, make sure you are getting your calories and staying hydrated.
Take care. Good thoughts, prayers and best wishes for your weight loss and health goals.0 -
Well said!0
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To each his or her own, I suppose, but I'm one of these with "a lot of fat to lose," and I asked my doctor for guidance, not a documentary on Netflix, and I think it's safest for people looking to make real, lasting changes in their lives to first ask their doctor. Don't be surprised by major blow back when you float a fad diet on a forum on MFP.0
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To each his or her own, I suppose, but I'm one of these with "a lot of fat to lose," and I asked my doctor for guidance, not a documentary on Netflix, and I think it's safest for people looking to make real, lasting changes in their lives to first ask their doctor. Don't be surprised by major blow back when you float a fad diet on a forum on MFP.
doctors know very little on actual nutrition.0
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