BMR IS not for obese and morbidly obese people
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When your BMI is more than 30 u are obese and if it is more than 40 u are morbidly obese .
The nutritionist and doctors say u should not eat less than your BMR but in this case , your BMR will be more than
2800 cal and even 3500 cal with u workout , u will have at least 4000 cal to eat per day, and it is not makes sense when your
weight is 300 400 or 500 pounds , it will take life to lose weight and your chance to avoid the obesity diseases become low .
I know that u should eat more to lose more but not 4000 cal/day .
As obese when u lose reasonable amount of pounds then u will think about bmr but until that u should not eat more than 1500 cal .
The nutritionist and doctors say u should not eat less than your BMR but in this case , your BMR will be more than
2800 cal and even 3500 cal with u workout , u will have at least 4000 cal to eat per day, and it is not makes sense when your
weight is 300 400 or 500 pounds , it will take life to lose weight and your chance to avoid the obesity diseases become low .
I know that u should eat more to lose more but not 4000 cal/day .
As obese when u lose reasonable amount of pounds then u will think about bmr but until that u should not eat more than 1500 cal .
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I have 110 more pounds to lose which makes me morbidly obese. My BMR is around 1700 cal/day according to MFP. I eat 1600 + exercise cals and have been losing at a healthy and reasonable rate.
Trading in fat unhealthiness for starving unhealthiness is NOT the way to go.
If your body is using 2800 calories to keep everything running smoothly, so be it. You don't gain weight by eating your BMR and exercise calories, those people gained so much because they were eating WAY MORE than that. So if you're going to eat 2800 calories down from 5000+, you're gonna lose.
PLEASE no one take this person's advice!1 -
i'm obese and your post isnt true for me. i'm eating above my BMR and i'm going at a pace to lose all 80 pounds i have within 12 months. i dont eat my exercise calories back.
i also think it's going to depend on what type of activities you are doing as well. i lift heavy weights and do lots of interval training with cardio. there's no way i would be able to get through those workouts and only eat the 1200 calories MFP suggested i eat. I tried it for a few weeks and not only did it take me longer to recover from a lift session but i also didnt see any more weight loss than when i increased by calories to 1800 calories0 -
PLEASE no one take this person's advice!
you mean you understood that ?0 -
Well, since you provided such authoritative sources.0
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When your BMI is more than 30 u are obese and if it is more than 40 u are morbidly obese .
The nutritionist and doctors say u should not eat less than your BMR but in this case , your BMR will be more than
2800 cal and even 3500 cal with u workout , u will have at least 4000 cal to eat per day, and it is not makes sense when your
weight is 300 400 or 500 pounds , it will take life to lose weight and your chance to avoid the obesity diseases become low .
I know that u should eat more to lose more but not 4000 cal/day .
As obese when u lose reasonable amount of pounds then u will think about bmr but until that u should not eat more than 1500 cal .
What??1 -
When your BMI is more than 30 u are obese and if it is more than 40 u are morbidly obese .
The nutritionist and doctors say u should not eat less than your BMR but in this case , your BMR will be more than
2800 cal and even 3500 cal with u workout , u will have at least 4000 cal to eat per day, and it is not makes sense when your
weight is 300 400 or 500 pounds , it will take life to lose weight and your chance to avoid the obesity diseases become low .
I know that u should eat more to lose more but not 4000 cal/day .
As obese when u lose reasonable amount of pounds then u will think about bmr but until that u should not eat more than 1500 cal .
Methinks you don't quite understand how BMR is calculated...because this couldn't be MORE wrong.1 -
PLEASE no one take this person's advice!
you mean you understood that ?
He's saying that when your BMI is over 30 you shouldn't eat at your BMR because it is too high. You should starve and not eat more than 1500 calories even if your BMR is 2800. Otherwise it would take too long to lose the weight (which is not true).
A bunch of bull.0 -
When your BMI is more than 30 u are obese and if it is more than 40 u are morbidly obese .
The nutritionist and doctors say u should not eat less than your BMR but in this case , your BMR will be more than
2800 cal and even 3500 cal with u workout , u will have at least 4000 cal to eat per day, and it is not makes sense when your
weight is 300 400 or 500 pounds , it will take life to lose weight and your chance to avoid the obesity diseases become low .
I know that u should eat more to lose more but not 4000 cal/day .
As obese when u lose reasonable amount of pounds then u will think about bmr but until that u should not eat more than 1500 cal .
What??
Spanish Lil John Quuuuueeeeeeeeeee????? lol0 -
I think the OP might be confusing BMR calcualtions with the (body weight * 10) calculations that have been posted on a few threads today. I agree that someone very heavy should not use body weight * 10.
I weigh about 155. Not eating below 1550 calories makes sense for me (though my BMR is 1392). But if I weighed 400 lbs, not eating below 4000 calories would be ridiculous.0 -
A bunch of bull.
I got that from any reference to BMR other than as a step to calculating TDEE to be honest.0 -
If you can't spell "you", I really don't think you are qualified to give any type of advice!0
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1500 is not enough for a very large man..0
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That made my eyes bleed.0
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MFP calculated my daily calorie intake as 1780 calories, and my body wasn't changing (yes I was eating my exercise calories). With advice from my doctor, who also uses MFP, I lowered it down to 1600 and now am starting to see a difference. You have to find what works for YOU.0
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It all depends on your daily activity, I eat 2200-2500 calories a day and lose 2lbs a week. If I eat less during the day...I don't lose weight!0
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LOL.PLEASE no one take this person's advice!
you mean you understood that ?0 -
That made my eyes bleed.
^^This0 -
That made my eyes bleed.
^^This0 -
English is not my first language and i can do better than that but i wanted to write my thoughts0
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Well, my BMI is 32.4. So, yes, I am obese. My BMR is 1712 and you better believe I eat every single one of those calories and then some! And I am steadily losing weight.
Yes, people with a lot of weight to lose can get away with larger deficits in the beginning. But at some point, they will have to reevaluate their goals to continue with healthy, sustainable loss.0 -
If you can do better than that then why didn't you? Anyway, you're still wrong. Maybe you should make it a blog post.English is not my first language and i can do better than that but i wanted to write my thoughts0 -
Obesity is related to many of diseases and if u want to lose 1-2/week , it will not works , u have big chance to give up in first 2-3 months and return to your old habits
so lose as possible as u can and then u can control your plan .
when u are obese , life saving surgery become very dangerous !!!!!0 -
If you can do better than that then why didn't you? Anyway, you're still wrong. Maybe you should make it a blog post.English is not my first language and i can do better than that but i wanted to write my thoughts
it is my fault but i don't have experience in such sites like that ( community site )0 -
Obesity is related to many of diseases and if u want to lose 1-2/week , it will not works , u have big chance to give up in first 2-3 months and return to your old habits
so lose as possible as u can and then u can control your plan .
when u are obese , life saving surgery become very dangerous !!!!!
For people weighing in the range of 550-800 pounds, who are in immediate danger from their weight and are not able to do day to day activities, yes a DOCTOR moderated liquid diet of 1200 a day will help them.
For people who are obese or morbidly obese but are still fully functional and independent, a healthy diet and exercise plan is enough. Even if it takes a year or two to lose the weight, every pound lost enhances their overall health.
If I understand you correctly, you are saying they're gonna fail anyway so they may as well starve a while and lose as much as possible?0 -
PLEASE no one take this person's advice!
you mean you understood that ?0 -
Obesity is related to many of diseases and if u want to lose 1-2/week , it will not works , u have big chance to give up in first 2-3 months and return to your old habits
so lose as possible as u can and then u can control your plan .
when u are obese , life saving surgery become very dangerous !!!!!
I eat 2200-2500 calories a day and lose 2lbs per week, you shouldn't tell people they can't do something when you obviously have no clue what you are talking about!0 -
I don't say they can not do it ( i am morbidly obese myself ) , so i know what i am talkng about
THE ONLY IDEA , IN FIRST 3 OR 4 MONTHS OF YOUR JOURNEY ON WEIGHT LOSE YOU SHOULD EAT UNDER YOUR BMR
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TONS OF POUNDS TO LOSE
AND AFTER YOU ACHIEVE REASONABLE RESULTS THEN U CAN LISTEN TO YOUR BMR0 -
ROFL, I needed a good laugh today, almost fell of my seat, i was 320 pounds, granted i dont eat all the recommended calories, and i dont eat back exercise calories, i still would never eat below 1500 calories, you sir just earned the dunce of they day award........ dirrrr diiiiiiieeeeee dddddddiiiiiiiiirrrrrrrrr.0
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I don't say they can not do it ( i am morbidly obese myself ) , so i know what i am talkng about
THE ONLY IDEA , IN FIRST 3 OR 4 MONTHS OF YOUR JOURNEY ON WEIGHT LOSE YOU SHOULD EAT UNDER YOUR BMR
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TONS OF POUNDS TO LOSE
AND AFTER YOU ACHIEVE REASONABLE RESULTS THEN U CAN LISTEN TO YOUR BMR
Sweetheart, I understand what your trying to say but if it worked for you that doesn't meant it will work for everybody. I sincerely believe that everyone at that level of obesity should seek for professional help and find what works best for them. I'm obese myself and I had been trying diets that everybody told me were good all my life without any result. So my best advice is to not do this on their own or following comments on the internet.0 -
I don't say they can not do it ( i am morbidly obese myself ) , so i know what i am talkng about
THE ONLY IDEA , IN FIRST 3 OR 4 MONTHS OF YOUR JOURNEY ON WEIGHT LOSE YOU SHOULD EAT UNDER YOUR BMR
BECAUSE YOU HAVE TONS OF POUNDS TO LOSE
AND AFTER YOU ACHIEVE REASONABLE RESULTS THEN U CAN LISTEN TO YOUR BMR
I think I understand, and I can't say I disagree. There is a point where you could eat too low for your loss to be healthy, but you can safely lose and eat under your BMR if you have plenty of fat on your body.
People always say "don't eat under your BMR" because that's what your body needs just to survive. But all those calories don't have to come from food eaten. By eating less you force your body to use more of it's stored fuel (e.g. fat).0
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