If you are scared to increase calories

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  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
    I have set my calories to 1800. I am trying to create an exercise routine, but am not always consistant with it. I work at Starbucks 4 days a week. My TDEE is apparently 2303, BMR 1675.

    So if I eat 1800, burn off 400, I can't eat those 400 back?

    It depends on how you set your TDEE. If your set your TDEE above sedentary, then you would eat the calories back. If you set it to light or moderate, then that activity is included in the TDEE calculation, so you wouldn't eat them back.

    Mine is set to light. It's confusing, though, because if one day, I eat 1800. Then the next I eat 1800, burn off 400, then eat those 400 back, leading me back to a net of 1800, what difference does it make? *confused*
  • DanceAunt
    DanceAunt Posts: 3
    Is there a way to manually modify your goals on MFP? MFP has my goal set at 1200 calories but the calculators say I should be consuming 1377 calories.
  • gordonx4
    gordonx4 Posts: 26 Member
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  • halcionne
    halcionne Posts: 10 Member
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  • Kgreenlaker
    Kgreenlaker Posts: 18 Member
    What if you can't lift weights for 6 months due to recent surgery
  • Drastiic
    Drastiic Posts: 322 Member
    Is there a way to manually modify your goals on MFP? MFP has my goal set at 1200 calories but the calculators say I should be consuming 1377 calories.

    My Home->Goals->Change Goals->Custom->Save
  • grimm1974
    grimm1974 Posts: 337 Member
    I have set my calories to 1800. I am trying to create an exercise routine, but am not always consistant with it. I work at Starbucks 4 days a week. My TDEE is apparently 2303, BMR 1675.

    So if I eat 1800, burn off 400, I can't eat those 400 back?

    It depends on how you set your TDEE. If your set your TDEE above sedentary, then you would eat the calories back. If you set it to light or moderate, then that activity is included in the TDEE calculation, so you wouldn't eat them back.

    Mine is set to light. It's confusing, though, because if one day, I eat 1800. Then the next I eat 1800, burn off 400, then eat those 400 back, leading me back to a net of 1800, what difference does it make? *confused*

    I'm just really just getting into this, but I believe you only eat exercise calories back if your net is below your calculated BMR. At least that seemed to be what was indicated in the Eat More to Weigh Less stickies. Of course, someone with actual experience in doing this might want to confirm that.
  • mpf1
    mpf1 Posts: 1,437 Member
    Interesting, thanks
  • Cwilbanks12105
    Cwilbanks12105 Posts: 99 Member
    This confuses me. So my bmr is 1578, and it has me eating 2522 at moderately active, it seems by eating more than my bmr i would gain weight.
  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    I tried this a week ago, and after one day, I was so full from all the food that it freaked me out. I don't know if I have the guts to keep it up. It seems like so much food. It's 1,000 more calories PER DAY, than I eat now. Geez. But, maybe that is why I can't shave off the last bit that I'd like to lose. I went through the calculator on the site and found my body fat %. Maybe I'll give it a shot. Its kinda scary.
  • grimm1974
    grimm1974 Posts: 337 Member
    This confuses me. So my bmr is 1578, and it has me eating 2522 at moderately active, it seems by eating more than my bmr i would gain weight.

    I'm no expert by a long shot on this stuff, but this one I do know. You are confusing your BMR with your TDEE.

    BMR = the minimum number of calories you need to provide your body with enough energy to function correctly.

    TDEE = the maximum number of calories you can eat and maintain your current weight.

    TDEE will always be larger than your BMR. So, eating above your BMR should not make you gain weight. Eating above your TDEE will eventually cause you to put on weight.
  • Cwilbanks12105
    Cwilbanks12105 Posts: 99 Member
    This confuses me. So my bmr is 1578, and it has me eating 2522 at moderately active, it seems by eating more than my bmr i would gain weight.

    I'm no expert by a long shot on this stuff, but this one I do know. You are confusing your BMR with your TDEE.

    BMR = the minimum number of calories you need to provide your body with enough energy to function correctly.

    TDEE = the maximum number of calories you can eat and maintain your current weight.

    TDEE will always be larger than your BMR. So, eating above your BMR should not make you gain weight. Eating above your TDEE will eventually cause you to put on weight.

    ok I think I understand that, thank you for explaining it to me. Like someone else said, the idea is really scary. I've been spending all this time freaking out over everything I put in my mouth making sure I stay under 1500, and according to this I should eat 1000 more cals a day, that just automatically screams weight gain you know? Maybe I'll try it, I do admit I'm all for being able to eat more lol I'm just so scared to lose the progress I've made so far.
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  • neverstray
    neverstray Posts: 3,845 Member
    Based on what I am reading here, it sounds like I might see weight gain in the first couple of weeks, but then I should start seeing a downward trend. Is this correct?

    Has anyone consistently increased weight doing this, and what adjustments did you make to get it to go the other way?

    Let's just say that I am very skeptical about this. And, I know when I get on the scale and see my weight increase, I am going to be angry. If after a month, it's still going up, then what?
  • ChristyP0303
    ChristyP0303 Posts: 212 Member
    I used the body fat percentage calculator you listed, it is horribly wrong. 23% more than the calculator on my scales.
  • TripleJ3
    TripleJ3 Posts: 945 Member
    I up'd my calories on April 9th. I gained 4 lbs within 2 weeks. The following week I lost those 4 lbs plus an extra 3. I started to strength train every other day for 30 minutes and I alter that with 30 minutes of cardio. I've lost inches all over. I try to eat about 2300-2500 calories a day.

    The group eat more to weigh less really helped me.

    Do you happen to have the link to the eat more group? I have been looking for it!
  • grimm1974
    grimm1974 Posts: 337 Member
    I up'd my calories on April 9th. I gained 4 lbs within 2 weeks. The following week I lost those 4 lbs plus an extra 3. I started to strength train every other day for 30 minutes and I alter that with 30 minutes of cardio. I've lost inches all over. I try to eat about 2300-2500 calories a day.

    The group eat more to weigh less really helped me.

    Do you happen to have the link to the eat more group? I have been looking for it!

    http://www.myfitnesspal.com/groups/home/3817-eat-more-to-weigh-less
  • imsocorkyy
    imsocorkyy Posts: 18
    Oh god. I just did it and based on the activity level I do, I should apparently be eating between 2000-2200 cals a day.

    :0

    I'm afraid to trust it...
  • kiku76
    kiku76 Posts: 352 Member
    The numbers are starting to make more sense for me now.
    I had my cal set at 1300. I would eat an extra 300 for breastfeeding an older baby, and burn about 200-300 a day.
    So really, it's about the same if I set it at 1800 (my TDEE and allotted cal are about 2000)
  • bjdavid53
    bjdavid53 Posts: 47 Member
    I checked my numbers on Fat2fitradio and my BMR is 1254 and TDEE (assuming that's the number if I use their "How many calories should I eat" calculator) is 1493.
    I entered that I was sedentary since I have a desk job and I am a sporadic exerciser. Should I eat 1493 and eat back my exercise calories on workout days? Will I lose weight with that number of calories or should I reduce it slightly?
  • Susabelle64
    Susabelle64 Posts: 207 Member
    I dont know if the OP or others are still watching this thread but I hope so. This idea is very intriguing and I promised myself that I would eat to support my new exercise program.

    I am a 47 yo female and 4'11 and currently at 186.8 lbs and 47.32% body fat, my goal weight is 118. I started the Insanity program with my husband on 4/9 and do it faithfully every day (6 days a week) and burn between 350-600 calories a session (measured on a HR Monitor). MFP set my calories at 1250 to loose 1lb a week and I have been eating back my exercise calories (I mean who can be happy on 1200 calories!). So I have been averaging about 1600 calories a day. I actually gained 2lbs the first 2 weeks, but lost 3 inch on my hips and 1.5 off my waist. Now I'm down 1.5 lbs from my starting weight (4 weeks in) and have lost a total of 10.5 inches. One whole pant size, but no real scale change (kinda depressing). Anyway, according to the Fat 2 Fit website, I should be eating somewhere between these two for an interim goal weight of 152lbs:

    Moderately Active (moderate exercise/sports 3-5 days/wk) 2130
    Very Active (hard exercise/sports 6-7 days/wk) 2370

    This is very scary!!! It goes against my basic instinct to cut calories when the scale doesnt move but Is this right? I really want this to work, like plenty of others on here I have dieted and lost, only to gain it back and then some...I allowed myself to get up to an obscene weight and now I just want to be healthy, active and fit. Could really use some support and help with this.

    On a side note, I feel so much better now with the exercise, I dont know how to describe it, but now any movement my body makes now, I feel fully "engaged"? I mean when I stand I feel strong and can feel my legs and abs supporting me, we I sit, I sit straighter, when I walk, bend, dance.......etc......I just feel stronger.
  • ironanimal
    ironanimal Posts: 5,922 Member
    I checked my numbers on Fat2fitradio and my BMR is 1254 and TDEE (assuming that's the number if I use their "How many calories should I eat" calculator) is 1493.
    I entered that I was sedentary since I have a desk job and I am a sporadic exerciser. Should I eat 1493 and eat back my exercise calories on workout days? Will I lose weight with that number of calories or should I reduce it slightly?

    Do that, and you should lose, yes.
  • grimm1974
    grimm1974 Posts: 337 Member
    If anyone is interested, I'm going to start trying this method this coming week. I plan to stick with it for at least 2 months no matter what happens. So, if you want to see if it really works, I will be giving weekly updates on my blog. I am going to do weekly weight and measurement updates. I am using the Fat2Fit method of eating at the TDEE of your goal weight. I am one of those people who has gone about half way to their goal weight and just stalled. I've exercised more, but haven't seen the results I'm looking for. Here is what is changing for me:

    1. My daily calories is going way, way up. I have been netting about 1500 on average. Now, I will be eating at around 2700 calories.

    2. I'm cutting back slightly on the amount of cardio I do and replacing it with some strength training. I do not have a gym membership and I have limited exercise equipment. I will be using some dumb bells, resistance bands, and I have access to a heavy bag at work. The rest will be body weight resistance exercises.

    3. I'm changing my ratios to 40% carbs, 30% protein, 30% fats and 30g of fiber.

    I will update my blog every Sunday with the weekly results. I go into this with no pre-expectations of whether or not this is going to work. The math seems to work out. Even if it is wrong, MFP says I should lose 0.3 lbs a week anyway. So, if anyone is curious to whether or not this works then feel free to check out my blog on Sundays. I have already updated with my initial stats.
  • littlepinkhearts
    littlepinkhearts Posts: 1,055 Member
    i've been dragging my cals out of the triple digits since March 1st. I've been doing it slowly cause if your'e used to eating under 1000 cals it really does take time to adjust mentally and actually food prep wise also. If you're gonna do it then you'll want to do it right so you need to be prepared to build up your food reportoire with healthy fats, proteins, fruits, veggies and other stuff. I've only been upping them 100 cals at a time. Towards the end of March I gained and lost the same 3 pounds for like 3 weeks. Then I put on 3 pounds and kept it for 2 weeks. In the last 3 days it's just started to go back down. But i'm still upping my cals and will be for a while still at this rate lol. I've just started adding weight-lifting also which i'm pretty happy about. I've also started jogging again. I'm expecting the scale to be fluctuating for a while still but at least the number gains have been small.
  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
    I have set my calories to 1800. I am trying to create an exercise routine, but am not always consistant with it. I work at Starbucks 4 days a week. My TDEE is apparently 2303, BMR 1675.

    So if I eat 1800, burn off 400, I can't eat those 400 back?

    It depends on how you set your TDEE. If your set your TDEE above sedentary, then you would eat the calories back. If you set it to light or moderate, then that activity is included in the TDEE calculation, so you wouldn't eat them back.

    Tdee is 'total daily energy expenditure' so you should choose the activity level that includes your exercise.
    If tdee is 2303, you eat 1800+400, you have eaten 2200 which is only 103 deficit and you probably won't lose.
    The reason you need to eat exercise back with
    Mfp calcs is because exercise is not included in activity level. With tdee it is so you don't eat them back.
    With an active job and 3 or more workouts a week you should choose mod active.

    No, no. I wouldn't eat 1800+400, hun. What I'm trying to say is that, if I ate 1800, then burned off 400, if I ate those 400 back, I'd be netting the same amount as if I didn't work out. Do you see what I mean, hun?
  • InnerFatGirl
    InnerFatGirl Posts: 2,687 Member
    I have set my calories to 1800. I am trying to create an exercise routine, but am not always consistant with it. I work at Starbucks 4 days a week. My TDEE is apparently 2303, BMR 1675.

    So if I eat 1800, burn off 400, I can't eat those 400 back?

    It depends on how you set your TDEE. If your set your TDEE above sedentary, then you would eat the calories back. If you set it to light or moderate, then that activity is included in the TDEE calculation, so you wouldn't eat them back.

    Mine is set to light. It's confusing, though, because if one day, I eat 1800. Then the next I eat 1800, burn off 400, then eat those 400 back, leading me back to a net of 1800, what difference does it make? *confused*

    I'm just really just getting into this, but I believe you only eat exercise calories back if your net is below your calculated BMR. At least that seemed to be what was indicated in the Eat More to Weigh Less stickies. Of course, someone with actual experience in doing this might want to confirm that.

    Oooooooooo right, I see! Thanks hun, that simplifies things for me :-)
  • moerketid
    moerketid Posts: 12 Member
    Can anyone recommend some good, healthy ways to increase calories? Having loads of trouble getting anywhere without eating junk food! I admit I am a small eater with a poor appetite but I'm aiming to up my calories to 1700 per day after having been on 900-1300 for a long while. Any suggestions?
  • Susabelle64
    Susabelle64 Posts: 207 Member
    I'm starting to have this issue too, some good suggestions I've seen on here are:

    Regular Cheese
    Peanut butter or other nut butters
    regular cottage cheese
    Avocados
    regular yogurt

    I know at the beginning, I was getting lower fat of all these things, but now I'm putting them back one by one
  • TanyaCurtis
    TanyaCurtis Posts: 630
    THIS!!
  • STC189
    STC189 Posts: 34 Member
    MFP was telling me that I needed to eat 1300 calories a day. I went and had a breathe test done, and they told that 1300 is way to low for me. I need to eat 1726-2000 calories a day to lose weight. It worried me at first, but I'm doing it and it seems to be working. :)