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  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    Personally, I don't think any higher power guides us personally.
    I believe there is balance in the universe and our actions change others, and other's actions change us. I believe a combination of our own choices, our brain chemistry, and the influence of others is what 'guides' us through life.

    Ahhhh...thank you...I don't think I have ever looked at it this way! You have given me another side to my own opinion to consider! :flowerforyou:

    I'm glad I could say something useful/interesting! :D Out of curiosity, would you mind sharing with us what your opinions/beliefs are?
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
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    Like I have said I don't think that anyone has gotten ugly :happy:

    Oh but it will!!
  • SmallTownSweetie03
    SmallTownSweetie03 Posts: 63
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    Personally, I don't think any higher power guides us personally.
    I believe there is balance in the universe and our actions change others, and other's actions change us. I believe a combination of our own choices, our brain chemistry, and the influence of others is what 'guides' us through life.

    Ahhhh...thank you...I don't think I have ever looked at it this way! You have given me another side to my own opinion to consider! :flowerforyou:




    I'm glad I could say something useful/interesting! :D Out of curiosity, would you mind sharing with us what your opinions/beliefs are?



    I don't mind at all. I think that God has a beginning and an end for all of us and he knows when and where these two events will happen and that is out of our control, but how we get from our beginning to our end is up to us, we forge our own path thru life based on a series of choices that we make, bad, good, or otherwise.
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    Like I have said I don't think that anyone has gotten ugly :happy:

    Oh but it will!!

    That's up to the choices people make.
    Or, depending on your beliefs, the choices god makes for this thread.
    :laugh:
  • whitehandlady
    whitehandlady Posts: 459 Member
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    Like I have said I don't think that anyone has gotten ugly :happy:

    Oh but it will!!

    That's up to the choices people make.
    Or, depending on your beliefs, the choices god makes for this thread.
    :laugh:


    *loves*
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    I don't mind at all. I think that God has a beginning and an end for all of us and he knows when and where these two events will happen and that is out of our control, but how we get from our beginning to our end is up to us, we forge our own path thru life based on a series of choices that we make, bad, good, or otherwise.

    :flowerforyou: Thanks for sharing! In reference to the 'end' planned, do you believe that god plans all circumstances of a death, or just a more general plan for the time/place? I'm not trying to prod at your beliefs, just genuinely curious. :smile: I'm guilty of loving to learn what other people think.
  • SmallTownSweetie03
    SmallTownSweetie03 Posts: 63
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    I don't mind at all. I think that God has a beginning and an end for all of us and he knows when and where these two events will happen and that is out of our control, but how we get from our beginning to our end is up to us, we forge our own path thru life based on a series of choices that we make, bad, good, or otherwise.

    :flowerforyou: Thanks for sharing! In reference to the 'end' planned, do you believe that god plans all circumstances of a death, or just a more general plan for the time/place? I'm not trying to prod at your beliefs, just genuinely curious. :smile: I'm guilty of loving to learn what other people think.

    Just a general plan for the time and place. :smile: And I don't think you're prodding at all! I also am guilty of loving to learn what other people think!
  • milleric
    milleric Posts: 25
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    Theres consequences to decisions you make

    bad decisions usually create bad outcomes (Unless you robbed a bank for a lot of money and got away with it, but then youre constantly feeling paranoid, still bad outcome.

    Good decisions usually create good outcomes

    As long as your path is lead by good decisions you should be fine.

    If people need to believe in god to follow this path, to each their own. I personally just never needed help cause I understand this simple formula
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    Personally, I don't think any higher power guides us personally.
    I believe there is balance in the universe and our actions change others, and other's actions change us. I believe a combination of our own choices, our brain chemistry, and the influence of others is what 'guides' us through life.

    Ahhhh...thank you...I don't think I have ever looked at it this way! You have given me another side to my own opinion to consider! :flowerforyou:




    I'm glad I could say something useful/interesting! :D Out of curiosity, would you mind sharing with us what your opinions/beliefs are?



    I don't mind at all. I think that God has a beginning and an end for all of us and he knows when and where these two events will happen and that is out of our control, but how we get from our beginning to our end is up to us, we forge our own path thru life based on a series of choices that we make, bad, good, or otherwise.
    Have you ever written encryption software before? There is no such thing as 'randomness'. Pseudorandom number generation is the generation of a number sequence that is so long that it gives you the illusion that it is random, even though it is not. The longer the sequence, the stronger the illusion and the better the encryption. There can't exist a predetermined destiny without disolving free will in the process. It's called a paradox.
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    Theres consequences to decisions you make

    bad decisions usually create bad outcomes (Unless you robbed a bank for a lot of money and got away with it, but then youre constantly feeling paranoid, still bad outcome.

    Good decisions usually create good outcomes

    As long as your path is lead by good decisions you should be fine.

    If people need to believe in god to follow this path, to each their own. I personally just never needed help cause I understand this simple formula

    This is going on a bit of a tangent, but....
    I had some new thoughts about decisions/outcomes a few nights ago, and it occurred to me that not only do your bad decisions hurt you, but can also hurt other people.
    For example, if you make someone feel bad about themselves, even in a small way, they'll possibly go and in some way make another person feel bad about themselves too to make them feel better. So, if you hurt one person, you're hurting a possible chain of many different people.
    It's one of the reasons I think even small good things can be so important, because they can also spread like that.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    Theres consequences to decisions you make

    bad decisions usually create bad outcomes (Unless you robbed a bank for a lot of money and got away with it, but then youre constantly feeling paranoid, still bad outcome.

    Good decisions usually create good outcomes

    As long as your path is lead by good decisions you should be fine.

    If people need to believe in god to follow this path, to each their own. I personally just never needed help cause I understand this simple formula

    This is going on a bit of a tangent, but....
    I had some new thoughts about decisions/outcomes a few nights ago, and it occurred to me that not only do your bad decisions hurt you, but can also hurt other people.
    For example, if you make someone feel bad about themselves, even in a small way, they'll possibly go and in some way make another person feel bad about themselves too to make them feel better. So, if you hurt one person, you're hurting a possible chain of many different people.
    It's one of the reasons I think even small good things can be so important, because they can also spread like that.
    The chain of events could cause a butterfly to flap its wings on the other side of the world.
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    Have you ever written encryption software before? There is no such thing as 'randomness'. Pseudorandom number generation is the generation of a number sequence that is so long that it gives you the illusion that it is random, even though it is not. The longer the sequence, the stronger the illusion and the better the encryption. There can't exist a predetermined destiny without disolving free will in the process. It's called a paradox.

    Ooh, I've never thought about that aspect.
    Thanks for the information. I had no idea that random number generators were only giving an approximation of randomness!
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    Theres consequences to decisions you make

    bad decisions usually create bad outcomes (Unless you robbed a bank for a lot of money and got away with it, but then youre constantly feeling paranoid, still bad outcome.

    Good decisions usually create good outcomes

    As long as your path is lead by good decisions you should be fine.

    If people need to believe in god to follow this path, to each their own. I personally just never needed help cause I understand this simple formula

    This is going on a bit of a tangent, but....
    I had some new thoughts about decisions/outcomes a few nights ago, and it occurred to me that not only do your bad decisions hurt you, but can also hurt other people.
    For example, if you make someone feel bad about themselves, even in a small way, they'll possibly go and in some way make another person feel bad about themselves too to make them feel better. So, if you hurt one person, you're hurting a possible chain of many different people.
    It's one of the reasons I think even small good things can be so important, because they can also spread like that.
    The chain of events could cause a butterfly to flap its wings on the other side of the world.

    :laugh: Bit of a stretch, but if someone you were mean to over the internet who lived on the other side of the world was then angry, went out for a cigarette, and attempted to step on a butterfly out of spite, then maybe.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    Have you ever written encryption software before? There is no such thing as 'randomness'. Pseudorandom number generation is the generation of a number sequence that is so long that it gives you the illusion that it is random, even though it is not. The longer the sequence, the stronger the illusion and the better the encryption. There can't exist a predetermined destiny without disolving free will in the process. It's called a paradox.

    Ooh, I've never thought about that aspect.
    Thanks for the information. I had no idea that random number generators were only giving an approximation of randomness!
    That's why, given enough time, any encryption can be hacked theoretically. The better the encryption, the more computations it takes. As soon as someone creates a better encryption, someone else builds a faster computer and so on.
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    Theres consequences to decisions you make

    bad decisions usually create bad outcomes (Unless you robbed a bank for a lot of money and got away with it, but then youre constantly feeling paranoid, still bad outcome.

    Good decisions usually create good outcomes

    As long as your path is lead by good decisions you should be fine.

    If people need to believe in god to follow this path, to each their own. I personally just never needed help cause I understand this simple formula

    This is going on a bit of a tangent, but....
    I had some new thoughts about decisions/outcomes a few nights ago, and it occurred to me that not only do your bad decisions hurt you, but can also hurt other people.
    For example, if you make someone feel bad about themselves, even in a small way, they'll possibly go and in some way make another person feel bad about themselves too to make them feel better. So, if you hurt one person, you're hurting a possible chain of many different people.
    It's one of the reasons I think even small good things can be so important, because they can also spread like that.
    The chain of events could cause a butterfly to flap its wings on the other side of the world.

    :laugh: Bit of a stretch, but if someone you were mean to over the internet who lived on the other side of the world was then angry, went out for a cigarette, and attempted to step on a butterfly out of spite, then maybe.
    It's the butterfly effect. A butterfly flaps its wings on one side of the world and sets off an extremely complex chain of events and a building collapses on the other side of the world.
  • michellekicks
    michellekicks Posts: 3,624 Member
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    So yep... I believe there's a sovereign God - just one - who is omniscient and omnipotent who gives us meaning and is working out all things according to His perfect and pleasing will. I believe He lives in perfect harmony with his Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ - the Holy Trinity, and that Jesus (both fully God and fully sinless man) went to the cross and died so all the sinful crap we commit daily could be forgiven forever and we could have communion with God... talk to Him, pray, listen... feel His peace and be empowered by His Holy Spirit to live out the life we were each created to live.

    But that's me...

    Carry on.
  • Jennyisbusy
    Jennyisbusy Posts: 1,294 Member
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    . I personally would feel... pointless... if I went through life believing that everything I do has already been predetermined by a 'supreme being'.

    ^^ this, plus it would also mean that my throwing a hissy fit and choosing not to believe in destiny might be part of the plan. You see it's like a win-win.
  • crisanderson27
    crisanderson27 Posts: 5,343 Member
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    Good Lord...I wish there was an option to remove your subscription to a thread.

    /sigh
  • Umeboshi
    Umeboshi Posts: 1,637 Member
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    It's the butterfly effect. A butterfly flaps its wings on one side of the world and sets off an extremely complex chain of events and a building collapses on the other side of the world.

    I've heard of it many times before, but it sounds rather metaphysical which made me a bit skeptical. I'm actually reading up on it now though, and the fact that it's based in science is fascinating.

    If anyone else is interested:
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butterfly_effect
  • jg627
    jg627 Posts: 1,221 Member
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    So yep... I believe there's a sovereign God - just one - who is omniscient and omnipotent who gives us meaning and is working out all things according to His perfect and pleasing will. I believe He lives in perfect harmony with his Holy Spirit and Jesus Christ - the Holy Trinity, and that Jesus (both fully God and fully sinless man) went to the cross and died so all the sinful crap we commit daily could be forgiven forever and we could have communion with God... talk to Him, pray, listen... feel His peace and be empowered by His Holy Spirit to live out the life we were each created to live.

    But that's me...

    Carry on.
    Ok, but where do you stand on the subject of a predetermined and predictable destiny?

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