Does anyone eat whatever they want just within calories?

Absolutely! Well....sort of. I have to get a certain amount of protein so I can't blow my 1700 calories on a half dozen donuts. And I learnedly to switch a few things so that I don't end up feeling hungry all day. Like swapping 2 handfuls of peanuts for a candy bar. Same calories, but the candy would have me craving more an hour later. And I did things like ordering from the fresco menu at taco bell, eating thin crust pizza instead of deep, and getting the grilled chicken at kfc.

So I'm not actually eating whatever I want, but no one would ever accuse me of eating "clean ". Especially if they saw eat that 24 ounce, triple decker cheeseburger at fatburger this week.

Good morning (well it is in the UK) everyone.

Thanks everyone who has posted on this thread. I've found all the replies and mini disputes really interesting and, whilst I thought I knew my response at the beginning, many of the replies have got me thinking and I've also learnt a lot. Once I worked out what you all meant by macros this thread made much more sense!

I've been using MFP for about 2 weeks and had lost around 1.5 stone / 18 lb before I came to MFP but stalled an plateaued really badly for months. I'd used Weight Watchers online but had jacked it in as expensive and also the food database and general website design is really, really poor. (MFP knocks its bloody socks off - and it's free!).

One of the things that had really seemed 'wrong' to me about WW was the calculation of points without regard to nutritional content eg a Mars bar used to be the same points as an avocado. Whether one is hard core about macros or not, I think it's obvious that there's a discrepancy of common sense there.

However, so far I've just been staying under my cals with MFP and I'm losing steadily again which I'm thrilled about. I have not worried about the minute details of what I'm eating, but I am starting to think that it's a journey of realisation and application. Most of us know 'exercise more, eat less' and all the sensible advise about losing weight but it's the practical application and realisation of our ACTUAL eating habits - not what we think we do when acting mostly on autopilot.

I do eat my exercise calories because I'm training for a half marathon in July and I know I can't ask my body to run the miles I do each week without proper fuel. Since I'm carrying so much extra weight I also know I'll be more prone to injury, so a half starved body isn't the best starting place.

The thing that MFP has done for me so far is make me pay attention. Really pay attention to what I'm eating. This is a tool for life I think. Getting back to the OP I think that most people will find they're successful by paying attention, recording ruthlessly and brutally everything they put in their mouths and staying under calories. If this is too tough, then I'd consider setting a lower deficit.

The next thing I've noticed is that I'm cooking more. I consider myself a good cook and have always thought that we ate really well (as in "I don't know why I'm so fat, we eat really well!). What MFP has made me realise was the number of times we fell back on takeaways because I couldn't be arsed to cook. The irony being is that being a good cook sometimes means you set quite high standards for what constitutes a 'proper' dinner. I've worked out some much simpler, faster recipes that are so easy it feels like cheating, not cooking - but that's my own hangup to get rid of!

The next thing I've noticed is how much less I snack. Even 'healthy' snacks which do add up. And aren't always as healthy as one thinks. I would have considered toast as a snack but of course I now think of this in terms of adding soup or eggs and making it my meal. Better food and less daily intake. Hurrah.

I had a proper, processed bit of food yesterday - Belgian Chocolate Torte! It felt really indulgent and slightly bad, but when I tracked the calories it actually wasn't as bad as I thought and fitted in well to my whole day or otherwise balanced eating. A few weeks ago I would have eaten twice as much without thinking about it.

I'm probably going to start keeping a weather eye on the old macros. As so many people have said, I'm sure that's going to be the key when it comes to optimal nutrition, energy levels and internal health. But for the time being I'm going to enjoy the feeling of steady weight loss without feeling deprived.

Is it better to be low calorie or healthful and is there a significant difference? Well, let's turn it on its head. It's worse to be overweight, sedentary and lethargic. Anything that helps anyone reverse this situation is good. Full stop.

As people go down that path and wonder if there's more to be gained (or rather lost)? Well, I suspect macros are the key. and if they don't? Well, I for one still salute anyone who cares enough about themselves to change whatever it was that got them in a mess in the first place.

Prizes available to anyone who got to the end of this mammoth post!

PM.

No I don't (but boy do I wish), I usually stay very conscious of what I eat and do my best to make great healthy choices. I'm very prone to gaining weight within a couple of days literally so I can not venture into the world of higher calorie or fast foods often if at all.

I basically stay within my calorie range and eat pretty healthy.

I've got a just-turned-teenage daughter who is naturally tall, slender and athletic, and given the problems that many teenage girls have in our society I don't want her to see me dieting in an obsessive way - I need to be a role model to her, I don't want her growing up thinking that dieting is something all women do, or that food is in any way 'bad'. So within my calories I eat a little of everything, I don't forego the dessert, I just eat less and don't have seconds. I also serve myself more of the vegetables and less of the calorie-laden stuff. I need her to see that I'm eating healthily but not being disordered about food, if that makes sense.

The interesting thing is that I've found that I feel physically better when I eat fewer carbs and more fruit and vegetables, even leaving aside the weight loss advantages, and I don't think it's just psychological. So it does help reinforce my healthy food choices.

I try to eat healthy calories during the week, then get up later on the weekends and have a less healthy brunch and save some calories so I can have a small amount of alcohol in the evening. The only time I have non-healthy calories in the week is if I've done some exercise and I might treat myself to a small amount of chocolate.

Yes, but that yes has an asterisk. So therefore... yes*.

I say this because what I started out eating is very different from what I'm eating now... my choices are better, and I find I'm not hungry as frequently, and I'm not snacking just to snack.

The same with me....I have cut back severely on things that were not helping me such as crisps and biscuits... but on a day to day basis, I try to eat within my calories and eat what I fancy but have small portions and stop eating when I feel the least bit full.

I DO worry about not meeting the protein quota (difficult as a vegan/veggie) and having too much sodium etc. but to keep going and to stop myself from getting dispirited, all I aim for is to keep with in my calorie allowance.

You can eat WHATEVER you want as long as it fits into your calories? Hmmm, and I'm assuming you can just burn off that Big Mac during cardio???

Yes. That's exactly what I do; I've lost 37lbs so far. Plus I can't really exercise because of a recent operation. I think I've been quite successful.

I eat whatever I want too, but staying under my calorie intake has made me better in picking healthier things. Also the amount of junk of before this all was ridiculous. I don't care if it's not perfect now because it's waaay better than before I just watch my protein because I exercise a lot!

thats exactly what i do. just somethings which are BEYOND worth of the amount of calories they give me to the enjoyment they pass on, i try to keep them to the minimal. like once in a long while. but no i didnt give up on anything completely excpt for softdrinks, but i do steal a sip or two every once in a while.

So I wonder for those who continue to eat unhealthy choices; as long as it is under their calorie goal will have continued success not only here but in keeping that weight off for life? I'm sorry but if you don't make some sort of change in the type of food you eat; you are setting yourself up for failure later.

I don't. I make conscious decisions regarding the healthfulness of everything I eat. For me that's part of the "lifestyle" versus "diet" part. I am fueling my body, and trying to do it well.

Granted, I didn't adopt that sort of thinking til i was in my mid 30s...

I am exactly the same, and didnt adopt the thinking till 30's also

i do eat what i want within the calorie limit however i find that the more weight i loose and the better i feel that i look my cravings for sweets has all be disappeared last night at work they were eating cookies normally i would have had 4 or 5 i ate 1 and didnt want anymore and with summer time here bring on the watermelon and cantaloupes i love fresh fruit

So I wonder for those who continue to eat unhealthy choices; as long as it is under their calorie goal will have continued success not only here but in keeping that weight off for life? I'm sorry but if you don't make some sort of change in the type of food you eat; you are setting yourself up for failure later.

I totally agree with you. When the weight is off they will think oh I can eat more now and those unhealthy fatty, high sodium food will make them gain the weight all back. It isnt just about losing weight, it is about making a lifestyle change. Without a change you are not going to be very successful.

me...but its hard to eat whatever I want and still be under in sodium, carbs and fat so I take it easy.

I do that with the exception of making sure I get over 100 grams of protein a day.