Corn used my man-parts as a speedbag.

I think I'll take my chances that my health issues later in life will have less to do with canned vegetables and more to do with the fact that I let myself get obese in the first place.

fallacy.

The point is clearly that you could potentially have a better quality of life (though more likely toward the end, I think) eating unprocessed foods vs all processed regardless to your physical condition, not that your condition has no bearing.

Not that it matters, of course, I just mean that I'm not saying your physical condition isn't to be without consideration when all factors are taken into account.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thank you

. There was a professor somewhere that spent all his calories on junk (specifically twinkies I think) and managed to lose weight.

I can tell you i lost 21 kilos eating hot chips, sausage, battered sav and lots of bread....its all about portioning and exercise! (Im not healthy in eating I can only portion the crap i do eat and walking was what made me lose weight, wish i did weights too "jiggles gut fat")
I can also tell you that since i joined MFP I have been so inspired that ive done a bit of everything and not lost one bloody kilo.....:explode: I wasnt even going to read this post! I clicked it by accident and glimpsed a word when i clicked back....:drinker: Here here!

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

Great post OP....

Thank you.

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

I have heard this before. I think frozen vegetables taste so much better then canned, and probably have less sodium but I currently don't really have a freezer.

We'll follow your list just because you said so and you have sick biceps.......


Nah kidding, good post

Excellent post, good sir.

2 weeks is not a plateau.

Thank you!

oh god i love this post....can i be your friend.

that's just awesome.

L

True! Thanks for the post. While others are trying a new fad diet every couple weeks/months and seeing no results I can make actual progress by eating within my calories and working out... consistently. Yay!

Love it!!
Didn't read all the other people's posts.

So can i add "You can NOT target fat in a specific area" for weight loss.
ex. " Help how can I lose just my belly fat"?

I like how you immediately followed your accusation of "fallacy" with a false-dilemma.

Hah, you're right, I actually didn't mean to include "all" in there, particularly not without qualifying the former statement with it, either; but it's really quite difficult to talk about a difference in quality of life without adhering to a false-dilemma in respect to typical food options. But regardless, it's the nature of the statements made in generality.

I don't eat all processed foods, I was making the point that while I do eat processed food because it's quicker and convenient, not all processed food is totally bad for you.

:flowerforyou:

Thanks for the flower I was really only trying to say that in general I think eating unprocessed foods are going to be, in the long run, better than processed, but that it's probably not going to have as much of an effect so long as you eat a relatively healthy diet.

Although I always feel better in the immediate when I'm eating unprocessed foods as opposed to eating frozen/canned stuff.

I'm glad you feel better about it. Just to play Devil's advocate, I will point out that some vegetables that are flash-frozen or "processed" on-site retain more nutrients than those that are shipped over long distances. Which is usually the case unless you're buying local produce.

I have heard this before. I think frozen vegetables taste so much better then canned, and probably have less sodium but I currently don't really have a freezer.

Veggies are veggies. Unless you have BP problems, don't worry about the sodium. :flowerforyou: