Gun for conceal / carry
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You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.0 -
You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Oh Ray its not easy to get a CC permit everywhere. Iowa just changed there law to "Shall issue" Rather that "May issue" So they must issue a CC permit unless they have a damn good reason not to. I should have done it a long time ago but have put it off I better get it done before the new legislative session0 -
I have a Kel-Tec P3AT (.380) ... don't know much about guns but I like it, it was what my uncle recommended and he knew all about guns... fwiw
would recommend for a woman, for concealed carry, anyway. It fits in my jeans pocket and not noticeable at all, even in pretty tight jeans when I was 142 lbs. I don't find it hard to shoot.0 -
Springfield XD40 Subcompact. I have the extended mag, but then it's not as comfortable in my hand. Where I used to work, I was trained by firearms specialists. Where I live now...I'm glad to have a gun just for peace of mind. There was a shooting in front of my house a few months ago. If someone is going to shoot at me, I'm gonna shoot back.0
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Thanks to those who took the time to explain. It is something I will never truly understand, my mind is in a completely different universe. If that makes me an "ultra liberal" then so be it. It is so far from my thing.
It seems really nuts to me. But whatever makes you safe. As long as it doesn't affect me I don't care what you carry.0 -
My husband seems to sell a lot of Glocks for CC. Not sure what I want yet. I keep changing my mind when he gets new guns in but I saw a bra holster recently where a small gun can fit into my cleavage...I like that.0
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yeah a .22 round would hurt a normal aggressor or even stop if hit in the face or other critical areas. BUT people under the influence of an extreme amphetamine/stimulant or a Hallucinogen being hit in the chest or face sometimes would have little to no effect of stopping an attacker. from working in law enforcement as part of a direct drug based type of group i have seen first hand the crazy things that happen when someone is on the above substances. exp pcp. meth. and most recently bath salts.
their was an incident here where two men got into an altercation one of the men was high on pcp and other stimulants he picked up a snow shovel and struck the other man with it when he did the other man pulled a .22 revolver and got two rounds off one striking the attacker in the chin busting it and sending frags just about everywhere from the roof of his mouth and bits on bone and teeth threw and out his cheek and the other hit him in the collar bone it did little to stop him he kept beating the other man a transit police officer showed up after telling the man to drop the weapon he did not and was shot in the back with a 9mm round and the guy barely stoped his attack the officer then fired one more shot killing the man,
i also seen a training video of a man that picked a kid up and started walking into a pond with him the police told him to drop the child he didnt the man was shot in the leg and just like the above didnt stop and was actually shot again after releasing the child for trying to get a weapon from his car. it was later found out that he was high on lsd0 -
bump...lots of good info in here0
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You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Oh Ray its not easy to get a CC permit everywhere. Iowa just changed there law to "Shall issue" Rather that "May issue" So they must issue a CC permit unless they have a damn good reason not to. I should have done it a long time ago but have put it off I better get it done before the new legislative session
I live in Arizona.
Buy gun, CC.
Its that easy.0 -
there was an incident here where two men got into an altercation one of the men was high on pcp and other stimulants he picked up a snow shovel and struck the other man with it when he did the other man pulled a .22 revolver and got two rounds off one striking the attacker in the chin busting it and sending frags just about everywhere from the roof of his mouth and bits on bone and teeth threw and out his cheek and the other hit him in the collar bone it did little to stop him he kept beating the other man a transit police officer showed up after telling the man to drop the weapon he did not and was shot in the back with a 9mm round and the guy barely stoped his attack the officer then fired one more shot killing the man,
They showed us something similar to this in A school after going through the NLW/ OC Course, weapons week. Etc. It's always good to be aware of any possible outcome-especially with these crazy bath salts episodes happening lately.0 -
I'm a police officer. I carry Sig P229. I also have a back up weapon Springfield XDM..In my squad I have an AR-15 rifle can't carry that though )0
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You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate0 -
My husband carries a glock and it seems to work fine. Good size, not too big and bulky and heavy, but still slick looking lol. Sorry I can't be more descriptive.0
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Why would you carry? Why do you feel the need?
This.0 -
Some guns that have been suggested so far:
Springfield XDM
Walther P99
S&W M&P
Sig Sauer P229
H&K 45
Glock 19
I shot Springfield xdm. It's an amazing gun! Very simple to strip. I also have a Glock 17. Not good for concealed. They are bulky. And a sig p250. It would be okay with a shoulder holster but not good on concealed. The sig also has a long trigger pull to it. Our next purchase is a beretta fs foe home and a Springfield xdm for concealed!0 -
Please take a class on gun safety. And read "In the Gravest Extreme".
Carrying a gun is an awesome responsibility that requires respect.0 -
This whole post is surreal! ... And scary! It's generally unheard of to carry a gun in Australia unless your a Police Officer or a criminal!!0
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This whole post is surreal! ... And scary! It's generally unheard of to carry a gun in Australia unless your a Police Officer or a criminal!!0
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You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate0 -
You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_firearm-related_death_rate
Canada does not share a border with Mexico nor has millions of drug addicts that cause 85% of ALL violent crime.
Comparing crime rates between countries is difficult due to the differences in jurisprudence, reporting and crime classifications. National crime statistics are in reality statistics of only selected crime types.
And, of course Canada will have a lower rate of gun death, they have less guns! That is a moronic claim.
Robbery, homicide, and assaults in Canada are more often committed with KNIFE than gun. If you're dead, does it matter how you were murdered?0 -
Why would you carry? Why do you feel the need?
This.
I be the first to tell you that I am not a gun lover. If I had it my way I wouldn't have one around. However, after many close calls in a fairly decent neighborhood. I have opted to consider carrying. It is a dangerous world with the need to protect yourself. Guns don't kill people. People kill people and if you are not protected then how do you plan to protect yourself. Plus. I live in Texas. We have all kinds of wildlife here that will not think twice about coming after you to kill you. Including mountain lions, coyotes and rattlesnakes. I am also a first degree red belt in tae. Kwon do and at first I was convinced that this is all I need but if someone is breaking into my house, trust me ill get out my sig, I'll give the one warning that I am armed and will take defense and then I'll have to protect myself from there.0 -
This thread is meant to discuss what gun to carry.
If a vegetarian made a post on what bean has the most protein, i wouldn't go on there and try and talk about how being a vegetarian is unhealthy, wouldn't you consider that poor taste????
In the same way, you are polluting this thread with unwanted commentary. If you want to discuss gun control, please start your own forum post instead of posting here. It's called etiquette.0 -
Wow, do you judge much?
Glad you changed the original post. I'm sure I wouldn't have been the only one to report it. Would have been your last day on here.
Chill !!0 -
Why would you carry? Why do you feel the need?
When seconds count, the police are minutes away.
Better to have and not need, than need and not have.
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This thread is meant to discuss what gun to carry.
If a vegetarian made a post on what bean has the most protein, i wouldn't go on there and try and talk about how being a vegetarian is unhealthy, wouldn't you consider that poor taste????
In the same way, you are polluting this thread with unwanted commentary. If you want to discuss gun control, please start your own forum post instead of posting here. It's called etiquette.
You make a very good point and I apologise for 'highjacking' your thread - however, if you'd worded it as above initially rather than just telling us to '*** off' then it would have been much less offensive!0 -
anyway back to the original subject....I have an SW40VE and I love it. Great for home protection, but a bit too big for carrying. My gf has a Ruger LCP which in my opinion is small and perfect for carrying....0
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In a 1998 book, More Guns, Less Crime, economics researcher John Lott's analysis of crime report data claims a statistically significant effect of concealed carry laws on crime, with more permissive concealed carry laws correlated with a decrease in overall crime. Lott studied FBI crime statistics from 1977 to 1993 and found that the passage of concealed carry laws resulted in a murder rate reduction of 8.5%, rape rate reduction of 5%, and aggravated assault reduction of 7%.
some other points to consider:
New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.
But, feel free to bring your idea that the world is full of puppy dogs and rainbows and that if guns were made illegal, crime would stop. No, do that and the average citizen would be defenseless while the criminal (not caring about laws) would have guns.0 -
New Jersey adopted what sponsors described as "the most stringent gun law" in the nation in 1966; two years later the murder rate was up 46% and the reported robbery rate had nearly doubled.
In 1968, Hawaii imposed a series of increasingly harsh measures and its murder rate tripled from a low of 2.4 per 100,000 in 1968 to 7.2 by 1977.
In 1976, Washington, D.C. enacted one of the most restrictive gun control laws in the nation. Since then, the city's murder rate has risen 134% while the national murder rate has dropped 2%.0 -
Personally I like the Keltec it is small and compact. You can get a wallet holster for it. I also like it with the laser sight. Great gun, great price.0
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