Gun for conceal / carry
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Speaking of ultra-liberals; are you ignorant enough to think that has ANYTHING to do with the tight gun control? When's the last time you heard a law abiding gun owner killed someone innocent, even in the US? Get an education.You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
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Then you're just as ignorant as he is.
I concur.You 'mericans are lucky to even have the choice to CC. Up here in ultra-liberal hell called Canada, I practically have to beg to simply own a gun, and having to transport it to a gun range is another bend-over session.
I recently got a S&W M&P9 and love it. Also have an older .22 revolver, but that's more of a nostalgia piece.
Yup, and our rates of gun deaths in Canada are less than 1/2 per 100,000 than our American friends, and our homicide rate is 1/5th of the US. I'll take the nanny state regulation of firearms over the debate on conceal or not conceal any day. You are always free to move south.
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Maybe YOU are more likely to get yourself shot however, I am considered "trained" in firearm useage.
Sure it should.Can we get this thread back on track? He was asking for information about which firearm he should choose to carry for CCW. I hate it when people hijack threads. He has already made the decision to obtain a CCW permit, as is his right in the USA. He was not asking for opinions on why he should carry. Don't make this into a political platform or give personal opinions on gun control.
If you want to discuss those things make a new forum topic.
It shouldn't be on a fitness website anyway
Bullet holes are bad for your health.
Protecting your family is GOOD for your overall fitness.
But, if you don't want to read about Americans protecting themselfs from criminals, simply don't click on the link.
But by carrying a gun you are 4-5 times more likely to get a hole in yourself possibly a few stray bullets for your family. I have reported this thread so hopefully a moderator will see fit to remove it.
And trying to get a thread locked because YOU don't agree with it?
Way to go sport.
It looks like living in a nanny state agrees with you.
I carry a hand gun with me pretty much everywhere I go. But to look at me you wouldn't know it. I am a responsible gun owner. I target shoot AT LEAST once a week, I have taught my children gun safety since the day they were born. And shooting is a sport we enjoy as a family. I have a lifetime handgun license in my state and a member of the NRA and in case you haven't figured it out I am DAMN proud of these rights that my forefathers faught and died to give me.0 -
Except your name IS pistolmama... :laugh:I carry a hand gun with me pretty much everywhere I go. But to look at me you wouldn't know it.
Sorry, just saying. I totally agree with you and am going to begin trainging my daughter on gun safety soon too
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I carry a double action .38 S&W ultra light carry. It is stainless steel, not some sissy pink one! If I ever to pull it on some thug, do you think he is going to take me seriously with a pink gun??....I think not!
My hubby carries a Kimber .45 Ultra carry stub nose. It is just a pretty pistol!.....It feels great in hand, and is really nice, but very pricey.0 -
I've got a Beretta PX4 Storm. And get certified with an automatic. If you certify with a revolver you can only carry a revolver. Automatic certified means you can carry either or.
+ 1 Love my Beretta Px4 Storm Type F Sub-Compact 40 cal. Great CC weapon.0 -
Kel Tec p3at or p32
Glock 19
The Kel Tec p3at is what I've started carrying when I run.
You carry a gun when you run :huh: jeez lady, where do you live? Must be dangerous!
^My thoughts exactly!
Surely you already have the advantage on someone trying to get you...?!
More importantly, if you think you're at risk of being attacked to the point that you'd need a gun to save yourself, why on earth don't you just find somewhere safer to go running?!!!
Maybe even consider buying a treadmill and perhaps avoid a life-threatening situation...
...Maybe it's just me....0 -
Except your name IS pistolmama... :laugh:I carry a hand gun with me pretty much everywhere I go. But to look at me you wouldn't know it.
Sorry, just saying. I totally agree with you and am going to begin trainging my daughter on gun safety soon too
There is that. LOL!:happy:0 -
I don't have a license to carry yet but have a glock 9mm in the house (thanks to my bf) as well as a 12 gauge.
I've grown up around guns, my parents and brother all carry and as soon as I get the gun I want to carry, it will be on me. My personal choice- Bersa 380!0 -
Yes, go plant your head in the sand like all the other ignorant people out there.Just has no place here
BTW, your also a hypocrite. Just a quick glance shows you post on SEVERAL non-weight/fitness/diet related threads including but not limited to; What Island do you live on, Last Word Backward, etc. I'm offended and don't agree with those threads, but do you see me whining about it to the mods and posting on them? NO.
Now simply leave the thread or STFU. It's that easy.0 -
More importantly, if you think you're at risk of being attacked to the point that you'd need a gun to save yourself, why on earth don't you just find somewhere safer to go running?!!!
Maybe even consider buying a treadmill and perhaps avoid a life-threatening situation...
...Maybe it's just me....
It isn't just you.. its you and the rest of the people who need a reality check. I learned the hard way when I was a teenager that the "It won't ever happen to me" mentality is completely untrue. It does happen to you.. and when you least expect it. I would start reading the news more and get a better grip on the real wold.0 -
Thanks to all of you responsible gun owners for your input. It's almost too much information!
To the rest, please share your propaganda elsewhere.0 -
Please read my post one page back about my 9MM and my damaged left hand.Thanks to all of you responsible gun owners for your input. It's almost too much information!
To the rest, please share your propaganda elsewhere.0 -
I carry a Desert Eagle....oops sorry I mean Lara Croft carries a Desert Eagle I just carry the controller.
Hmmm I may be in the wrong thread, is this the gamer forum??? :ohwell:0 -
Some guns that have been suggested so far:
Springfield XDM
Walther P99
S&W M&P
Sig Sauer P229
H&K 45
Glock 19
I have the Springfield XDM 9mm and while it is a great gun, I hate carrying it, with a fully loaded mag it is heavy. Just my 2 cents0 -
Glock is a good choice. Maybe Glock 19. It's what I use. You can drop it in water and it'll still fire. I've seen it done. It's smaller and easier to conceal. No safety to worry about in an emergency. It shoots 9mm so ammo would be cheaper.0
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More importantly, if you think you're at risk of being attacked to the point that you'd need a gun to save yourself, why on earth don't you just find somewhere safer to go running?!!!
Maybe even consider buying a treadmill and perhaps avoid a life-threatening situation...
...Maybe it's just me....
It isn't just you.. its you and the rest of the people who need a reality check. I learned the hard way when I was a teenager that the "It won't ever happen to me" mentality is completely untrue. It does happen to you.. and when you least expect it. I would start reading the news more and get a better grip on the real wold.
I'm well aware it could happen to me and it already has.
But that's exactly why I wouldn't ever put myself in a situation where I felt so threatened that I would need to carry a gun. I'd plan my route to stick to safer or more public places, run with a friend or, as I said, buy a treadmill where I can run in the safety of my own home!0 -
I carry a Sig P220R compact. I can't complain.0
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I have a S&W 38 caliber... It's a little bulky for my purse...but I have NO doubt that it will stop ANYONE if I need to...that being said... I am so looking forward to buying a 9mm.0
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Carry the largest Caliber you will reliably carry and practice with. If you persistently train with a Semi-Automatic then I wouldn't worry about jamming so much, as long as part of your training regimine includes handling failure to feed/eject. But the most important thing is that you train/practice presenting and firing your chosen firearm from your chosen method of concealment. Gonna use a pocket holster? Ever tried to grab a gun from it, present, and fire a controlled pair into a target 10 feet away? How long does it take? Does the hammer snag?Are your pants too bulky/not loose enough? If you want a no worries CCW method you could go for a .357/.38 hammerless revolver sitting in your pocket (by itself obviously). Practice with .38 rounds and carry .357 rounds. Still, perfect practice is more important than any particular type of gun. Front-Site even has their slogan "Any gun will do, if you will do" to make the point.0
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Hopefully nobody tries to break into your home while you are there.More importantly, if you think you're at risk of being attacked to the point that you'd need a gun to save yourself, why on earth don't you just find somewhere safer to go running?!!!
Maybe even consider buying a treadmill and perhaps avoid a life-threatening situation...
...Maybe it's just me....
It isn't just you.. its you and the rest of the people who need a reality check. I learned the hard way when I was a teenager that the "It won't ever happen to me" mentality is completely untrue. It does happen to you.. and when you least expect it. I would start reading the news more and get a better grip on the real wold.
I'm well aware it could happen to me and it already has.
But that's exactly why I wouldn't ever put myself in a situation where I felt so threatened that I would need to carry a gun. I'd plan my route to stick to safer or more public places, run with a friend or, as I said, buy a treadmill where I can run in the safety of my own home!
Hopefully nobody attempts to abduct (or worse) you when you are walking to your car after work.
Hopefully nobody tries to rob you at a 7-11 while you are gassing up.0 -
You said you don't want to carry a .22
How come you have eliminated it?
thanks for all the info (I didn't quote), very helpful and good points.
Why not a 22... i'm open minded, convince me! :P
maybe a 22 would be good to carry as a secondary firearm, or in certain situations. I wouldn't want it for home defense though. right?
I also carry for self defense in the wild. I have shot my fair share of big snakes due to the nature of my occupation.
Have you seen the... I think it's the Smith and Wesson Governor? It's a pistol that can fire .410 shot! I really should get one of those for the snakes
Taurus Judge. Shoots .45 long rounds or .410 shotgun shells. But for concealed carry, Glock or Sig. Both have sleek designs that can be concealed and drawn easily. Just try them out and find the one that feels the most comfortable to you.0 -
My husband has the Springfield XDM 3.8, and while he really does like it, he considers it too heavy to CC. It can be a bit cumbersome to draw, too.
I don't carry because I stay on the farm most of the time, or head to a campus where weapons are banned. So for home defense I have the trusty iron-sighted .22 or the 12 ga. I live in meth-head country, so anyone who pulls into the yard at night that isn't a neighbor or family gets greeted at the door with a rifle if I am home alone.
That said, my next dream purchase would be the Baretta Px4. That's orgasm in metal.
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Just has no place here
But threads on who's hot and who's not belong? This is a chit chat thread. It is about conversations you might have a a water-cooler. This is fine, deal with it.0 -
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Hopefully nobody tries to break into your home while you are there.
Hopefully nobody attempts to abduct (or worse) you when you are walking to your car after work.
Hopefully nobody tries to rob you at a 7-11 while you are gassing up.
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I'm talking about carrying a gun whilst running.. - a situation which the person who posted actually has control over!
I get why people want to own/carry guns but I still say it would be better to avoid a situation where you might have to use one in the first place. In my opinion, a gun should be used as a last resort.
But, OP, I apologise for distracting from your post. Glad you got the answers you were after.0 -
I carry a Bersa .380 or a S&W M&P 9mm. Love both of 'em. You might go through a few before you find one you really love to carry, but this thread has lots of great suggestions (if you can weed through all the posts from that anti-gun zealot to find them ). 0
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Some guns that have been suggested so far:
Springfield XDM
Walther P99
S&W M&P
Sig Sauer P229
H&K 45
Glock 19
I have a Glock19 and i don't think it's small enough to conceal .0 -
Hopefully nobody tries to break into your home while you are there.
Hopefully nobody attempts to abduct (or worse) you when you are walking to your car after work.
Hopefully nobody tries to rob you at a 7-11 while you are gassing up.
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I'm talking about carrying a gun whilst running.. - a situation which the person who posted actually has control over!
I get why people want to own/carry guns but I still say it would be better to avoid a situation where you might have to use one in the first place. In my opinion, a gun should be used as a last resort.
But, OP, I apologise for distracting from your post. Glad you got the answers you were after.
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I 100% agree that a gun should absolutly be a last resort.
This morning, I decided to run a new trail. It is a heart train that runs the permiter of a local park. Please keep in mind I am in South Florida.
Anyway, All I had was my iPhone to track my speed and such. As I was running down a 200 yard straight streach, I saw the path "move" about 30 yards in front of me (the sun was just starting to come up so, long shadows).
I stopped dead and looked closer. Suddenly, the path "moved" very quickly and crawled into the canal 20 feet off my left. You probably guessed it by now but, it was an alligator and, I would guess somewhere between 7 and 8 feet long.
Humans are not always the biggest problem while running.0 -
My CCW is a Springfield Armory XD 9mm sub-compact. Love the gun!! We have a local shooting range that rents guns which was VERY helpful before purchasing. Guns are expensive and it is so much better to be able to try different brands, etc. before spending the money to purchase one you may not be happy with. I tried the S&W, Ruger, & Glock, but found the Springfield Armory was a much better fit for me. I like the shorter barrel and the extended clip, but some would find it is a little heavy for the size which helps with the recoil.
I am now looking to buy a .380 to carry while I am walking since last week while walking I was bitten by a stray Pit Bull. My husband had told me beforehand to take my gun, but I didn't because I don't have a holster and didn't want it in my pocket. Sure was wishing I had it with me after the fact. If I can't find a .380, mace will be my next purchase. I definitely don't want to be in the siutation I was in last week again.
Good luck on your gun search!!0 -
Did you read the methodology of the study? It looked at shooting victims in Philadelphia Pennsylvania. The sample certainly over-estimated those with criminal histories and or gang/drug histories. It didn't look at a sample of people similar to the readers/commenter of this thread. Look for a study of those who legally possess firearms everyday; people with CCW permits, police, and security professionals. You're are forgetting the number one requirement of scientific study, there must be a theoretical relationship between variables. How does an inanimate object actually cause someone to be more likely to suffer a violent crime. I work in law-enforcement, as a civilian. I can tell you that most victims of violent crime are no stranger to the police, and as such I and my family are unlikely to become victims ourselves. That does not reduce the right of us to be prepared in case there was an attack or reduce our responsibility to each other and our children to be prepared to defend ourselves. What if I showed you statistics that children are much more likely to drown in swimming pools than to die due to accidental gunfire? Would you want to outlaw backyard pools?0
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