Carnivores – why?

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  • fuhrmeister
    fuhrmeister Posts: 1,796 Member
    I've been saving this for just such a thread. :happy:

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    LMAO love this!!!

    My question is why not???

    I agree, this is totally awesome!
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    How about this? I will continue to eat meat, because I believe that it's tasty and wonderful and not wrong to do so.

    Those of you who are vegetarian or vegan can continue being so (no judgement from me) since we are all grown ups who make our own choices?

    Just a thought....

    Now that is far too reasonable!! :tongue:
  • Phoenix59
    Phoenix59 Posts: 364 Member
    I eat meat because I LIKE IT! Nothing like a bloody, rare steak that's barely shown the flame of a hot, sizzling grill, IMO. I don't understand why anyone should justify why they eat what they do. Eat what you want and leave others to do the same in peace. :ohwell:
  • jzrharv
    jzrharv Posts: 126 Member
    There has never been a good argument presented to me why someone would want to eat a dead animal

    I'm certainly not going to eat a live animal.

    Though the eating of live animals is pretty much part and parcel of nature and the way things go in the wild. Bears and lions and sharks don't carefully and painlessly euthanize their prey, they simply bite the heck out of it till it stops moving, then dinner time! Same with all predators, all the way down to the itsy-bitsy spider (oh, being dissolved from the inside by the venom, how lovely for the fly).
  • ClaSSiE86
    ClaSSiE86 Posts: 72 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    *le sigh*

    Goooood comeback!!
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?
  • yogsvr4
    yogsvr4 Posts: 149 Member
    Why? Because it tastes good!

    Hunt it, kill it. Raise it, kill it. In either case, get that carcass cleaned, carved and on the grill! :happy:
  • ClaSSiE86
    ClaSSiE86 Posts: 72 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.


    Just because a tomato is easier to pick and eat vs hunting a wild boar, does not stop a tomato from having to grow and hence have been "living" :)
  • ClaSSiE86
    ClaSSiE86 Posts: 72 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    *le sigh*

    Goooood comeback!!


    Right back atcha, sweetie!
  • knittnponder
    knittnponder Posts: 1,953 Member
    Who knows why we started eating the things we eat? I love meat and feel better when I eat it than when I don't. I keep chickens and eat a lot of eggs but I have often wondered who initially decided to eat them. Why would you think to eat that thing that just came out of a chickens butt!? lol But they sure taste good!
  • sktllmdrhmz
    sktllmdrhmz Posts: 1,799 Member
    A dingo ate my baby.

    I figure it's only fair.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.


    Just because a tomato is easier to pick and eat vs hunting a wild boar, does not stop a tomato from having to grow and hence have been "living" :)

    Try looking up the word 'sentience.'
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?
  • Grimmerick
    Grimmerick Posts: 3,342 Member
    If we're not supposed to eat animals, why are they made of food? hmmm?

    and again technically that makes you food too doesn't it? Hmmmm? You can jump on that spit as well, I am sure you would be just delish with some BBQ sauce and Malt Vinegar, topped with some coleslaw on a healthy whole wheat bun.

    Umm, yes - technically...we are food too....

    Luckily we have a pretty large brain and opposable thumbs to help us get to the top of the food chain...otherwise, we'd be in the wild trying to run away from our predators too...

    wow.... you really love......your ellipses .............to emphasize..........................................................................things :)
    I hope you don't go hiking much or you might just find yourself in that situation or a zombie apocalypse, your large brain and thumbs won't help you much.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?

    Are you deliberately trying to evade the point that plants are living things as well? So it is no less humane to kill an animal than harvest plants.
  • ednabnana
    ednabnana Posts: 304
    You should ask the Lion why it eats other animals or better yet, why it eats its own kind. I have so much respect for animals but I was made to eat meat. Lucky for you, your ancestors pretty much had their fill of wild game to satiate the need of their growing brain. The sad part about it is that THEY sacrificed their lives to hunt wild animals for you, but you squandered all that brain power by posting a stupid question on a fitness board.

    Why do you eat plants? I have a newsflash for you. Once you harvest the plant, IT IS DEAD.

    Chicken breast. I will perish not being able to eat fish. Gimmmmmmmmmmmmme!
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?

    Are you deliberately trying to evade the point that plants are living things as well? So it is no less humane to kill an animal than harvest plants.

    You forget that it takes at least 2 pounds of plant food to create a single pound of meat (some estimates are much higher). Therefore, if your heart bleeds for plants, you are causing double the 'pain' due to your food choice. But truly, I doubt if you would put the 'suffering' of plants on the order you do of animals, that you aren't being at all serious. I cut my teeth on this argument as a young vegetarian 40 years ago, so you aren't being as original as you may think you are being.

    Link: http://www.extension.org/pages/35850/on-average-how-many-pounds-of-corn-make-one-pound-of-beef-assuming-an-all-grain-diet-from-backgroundi
  • Sarauk2sf
    Sarauk2sf Posts: 28,072 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    *le sigh*

    Goooood comeback!!


    Right back atcha, sweetie!

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  • penrbrown
    penrbrown Posts: 2,685 Member


    Try looking up the word 'sentience.'

    How do we know plants are not sentient?

    There's a great link to an article within this thread that suggest plants have a great deal of sophistication in their interactions with the world and with each other... Just because they haven't communicated to you directly doesn't mean they aren't sentient.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member


    Try looking up the word 'sentience.'

    How do we know plants are not sentient?

    There's a great link to an article within this thread that suggest plants have a great deal of sophistication in their interactions with the world and with each other... Just because they haven't communicated to you directly doesn't mean they aren't sentient.

    The point is that there is incontrovertible evidence that animals ARE.
  • amivox
    amivox Posts: 441 Member
    For those of you that hunt, I commend you. I think that if someone wants to eat meat, they SHOULD kill it themselves. That is natural. Factory farming isn't. And the other person that said that cavemen didn't even eat vegetables and fruits, pretty sure you are wrong because plants did exist back then. Even native american indians had men hunting and women gathering plant based foods. I see nothing wrong with hunting, as long as the whole animal is being used and not wasted. If you kill a deer, you better eat ALL of the venison. You better do something constructive with the hide and the antlers.

    As a vegetarian, I WISH people hunted instead of buying factory farmed food.


    You realize there are different ways to get meat, don't you? There are many small farms that ethically raise delicious meat treats for humans to consume. Factory farming is the devil, you are right there... but maybe if you looked a little deeper into the matter you might see that there are healthy, sustainable, and respectful ways to meet your meat needs.

    Um, if you had read all of my posts you would see that I wrote that I encourage my meat eating friends to eat organic and pasture raised animals because of the fact that they are treated way better. Hunting is still a better option than those options as well. But its cool, flame me for just one post of the many I have posted. Its all good. F*cks I give = 0
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?

    Are you deliberately trying to evade the point that plants are living things as well? So it is no less humane to kill an animal than harvest plants.

    You forget that it takes at least 2 pounds of plant food to create a single pound of meat (some estimates are much higher). Therefore, if your heart bleeds for plants, you are causing double the 'pain' due to your food choice. But truly, I doubt if you would put the 'suffering' of plants on the order you do of animals, that you aren't being at all serious. I cut my teeth on this argument as a young vegetarian 40 years ago, so you aren't being as original as you may think you are being.

    I am fully conscious of my place in the world as an omnivore so my heart does not bleed for the food chain. But, new studies in the physiology of plants have come out in the last 40 years that may change your views on sentience and how it relates to the plant world. If your vegetarian/veganism is based on the moral argument that it is cruel to feed on living, sentient creatures, then logic dictates that you must expand this to plant life as well.
  • BaconMD
    BaconMD Posts: 1,165 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.
    Well, the first sounds pretty boring. The second sounds like an epic battle that could go either way, the victor of which actually deserves to feast on his victim. And drink mead from a goblet.
  • amivox
    amivox Posts: 441 Member
    I never said that I don't get eating meat either. I used to be the one telling MY vegetarian friends that "animals taste good."

    This topic is a bit of a troll because someone posted a topic called "vegetarian... why?"

    I really don't care if you eat meat. The point is, vegetarians are sick of being bashed or talked down to because we choose not to.

    "Nothing will benefit human health and increase the chances for survival of life on earth as much as the evolution to a vegetarian diet." —Albert Einstein

    Humans are destroying the ecosystem with the meat industry. Which is why I say that people should hunt their food if they want to eat meat. I obviously don't hate meat eaters if I cook my boyfriend bacon.

    Um ... the farming industry isn't much better you know?

    The government regulates the agricultural community and forces farmers to grow subsidized corn.
  • _VoV
    _VoV Posts: 1,494 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?

    Are you deliberately trying to evade the point that plants are living things as well? So it is no less humane to kill an animal than harvest plants.

    You forget that it takes at least 2 pounds of plant food to create a single pound of meat (some estimates are much higher). Therefore, if your heart bleeds for plants, you are causing double the 'pain' due to your food choice. But truly, I doubt if you would put the 'suffering' of plants on the order you do of animals, that you aren't being at all serious. I cut my teeth on this argument as a young vegetarian 40 years ago, so you aren't being as original as you may think you are being.

    I am fully conscious of my place in the world as an omnivore so my heart does not bleed for the food chain. But, new studies in the physiology of plants have come out in the last 40 years that may change your views on sentience and how it relates to the plant world. If your vegetarian/veganism is based on the moral argument that it is cruel to feed on living, sentient creatures, then logic dictates that you must expand this to plant life as well.

    Ah, so you are looking for a ch*nk in my armor, so you can convince yourself I'm a hypocrite. Sorry, but you really need to do some introspection to see why you would want to do that. Peace.
  • BruteSquad
    BruteSquad Posts: 373 Member
    Carnivors only eat meat. *look in my pantry* Damn never mind

    I was all excited, I thought you said look in my panty.....

    But seriously, omnivore, Ogre, man, myth, legendary hero.

    I try to eat 286 grams of protein a day. That is reason one.

    Second reason, if you start from the front, and count to the third tooth, left or right of center, that tooth right there is designed to tear meat. I am designed to eat meat, as well as roots, legumes, fish, pretty much anything. Thus the Omnivore.

    The truth is, there is nothing you can show me scientifically that I cannot counter that says I shouldn't eat meat.

    And it is tasty.
  • doorki
    doorki Posts: 2,576 Member
    Dear Vegetarians:

    Hate to break it to you... but plants are living things too!

    Oh good lord.....this is the best you can do?


    ^^ Is THIS the best YOU can do?

    First, pick a tomato. Then, run down a wild boar, wrestle it to the ground, and fight it to the death. Now, let's compare those two experiences.

    So you would prefer to feed on the reproductive organs of a helpless plant rather than allow a creature to fight or its life?

    Are you deliberately trying not to understand my point?

    Are you deliberately trying to evade the point that plants are living things as well? So it is no less humane to kill an animal than harvest plants.

    You forget that it takes at least 2 pounds of plant food to create a single pound of meat (some estimates are much higher). Therefore, if your heart bleeds for plants, you are causing double the 'pain' due to your food choice. But truly, I doubt if you would put the 'suffering' of plants on the order you do of animals, that you aren't being at all serious. I cut my teeth on this argument as a young vegetarian 40 years ago, so you aren't being as original as you may think you are being.

    I am fully conscious of my place in the world as an omnivore so my heart does not bleed for the food chain. But, new studies in the physiology of plants have come out in the last 40 years that may change your views on sentience and how it relates to the plant world. If your vegetarian/veganism is based on the moral argument that it is cruel to feed on living, sentient creatures, then logic dictates that you must expand this to plant life as well.

    Ah, so you are looking for a ch*nk in my armor, so you can convince yourself I'm a hypocrite. Sorry, but you really need to do some introspection to see why you would want to do that. Peace.

    No, I am trying to get to the bottom of a flawed argument that leads followers to deem themselves morally superior. I find it interesting that you would leave rather than actually attempt to logically work out the discussion and defend your stance.
  • sdai3
    sdai3 Posts: 28 Member
    I've never seen so many ignorant responses in one thread before.. nicely done!

    I do, however, enjoy the 4th grade mentality responses. "IT TASTE GOOD" "CANT GET PROTEIN WITHOUT IT" "PUT IT ON DA GRILL YA'LL"

    Educate yourselves jeesh.
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