Vegetarians - why?
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It grosses me out and I don't like the taste of it. I have been this way my whole life. My Mom would try in vain to get me to eat meat and I just couldn't stomach it - literally! I don't mind if others do it. Let me eat my way and I'll let you eat your way. (My husband is a HUGE meat eater and we manage to make it work).
This is exactly like me!0 -
This statement has me miffed.Red meat makes me sick as a dog and is absolutely LOADED with fat.
300g Lean Beef Steak; 0 carbs, 12 fat, 63 protein.
Hardly 'loaded' with fat.0 -
I am not a vegetarian, but I've considered it. Mostly it's because I don't like meat, and since I don't actively (consciously, thoughtfully, etc) eat a vegetarian diet, there are nutrients missing from my just-don't-like-meat diet.0
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Please do not get offended anybody, but i think it is very unnatural for someone to not eat meat. think about cavemen, they ate meat all their lives, they needed it to survive. they did not eat any grains either. Sure it saves you from the fat, and maybe a heart attack being a vegetarian, but if you eat lean cuts of meat, its even better for your health. Sure they are adorable, but you need meat to survive, or at least be as healthy as can be. I was a vegetarian for a VERY short time, because i joined PETA. sure it kills animals, but you are never 100% vegetarian, because think of all the flies a year that you eat in your sleep... I think its really cool when people are vegetarians, its just not for me, because i love meat too much.
please nobody get offended, this is just my opinion.
*edited to fix a spell error*
Eh, my thought is that we don't do anything natural anymore anyway, so I don't particularly mind bucking that one evolutionary trend. As it is, we stay up way too late using artificial lights, we sit down far more than is good for us, we eat and drink stuff with no nutritional value, we wear clothing made of plastics and petroleum. If we want to go down the "it isn't natural" road, we would be walking it for a loooong time.
But think of the calories we'd burn on that walk! :bigsmile:0 -
Red meat makes me sick as a dog and is absolutely LOADED with fat.
Loaded in fat compared to what?0 -
Hi! I was vegetarian for three years, and the reason was that I had heart problems at a young age (because of bad genetics and an unhealthy diet), and I wanted a way to lower the amount of saturated fat and salt in my diet. After some research, I decided to do some meatless days, and found out I felt really good and slowly started to add in more and more meatless days until meat was fully out of my diet. After a year of that, my doctor was really proud of how improved my blood pressure was (from prehypertension to 110/69 average) , and I was so happy to have more energy and to feel cleaner
Recently, I added fish back into my diet (pescatarian) to see how that goes because, beside some mercury issues, I've only heard positive things about fish. So I'll see how that goes! Either way, I plan on sticking to a diet heavily plant based the rest of my life. It's what makes me feel good, and I encourage everybody to eat whatever makes THEM feel good!!0 -
Why do you eat meat?
Probably cause you like it well we're vegetarian because we like it0 -
I've had tummy troubles all my life. At various times doctors have thought I had ulcers, IBS, crohns, even cancer. After I was seriously injured and got an almost fatal staph infection my sister talked me into a homeopathic doctor. Among the lifestyle & diet changes we made were to reduce meat intake.No, it didn't cure my staph but I noticed I was having a lot less tummy trouble! 20+ years later, I still don't eat meat and I still don't have tummy trouble.
That is MY "why".0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
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Many vegetarians choose this lifestyle because they dont want to have to kill any animals or have others do so for them.-for moral and ethical reasons.
Other peple do it because it saves the environment alot of harm. It takes a lot of resources like water and food to feed cows who add to the greenhouse effect via their gas emissions.
And some people do it because of health reasons, as ideally and usually it is a healthier diet, if done right.There are many, many healthy benefits.
I was one for 25 years. I quit when i ran into some thyroid problems as i was eating alot of soy which is a goitergen.
And when i quit soy i craved meat , for the first time in 25 yrs- But alot of the thyroid problems also robably came fromboth genetics and the fact for 9 yrs i ate at the healthfood store i owned and my cooks always used non iodized salt.
By the way sir, most of the worlds population are vegetarians- so whats your beef?0 -
Many vegetarians choose this lifestyle because they dont want to have to kill any animals or have others do so for them.-for moral and ethical reasons.
Other peple do it because it saves the environment alot of harm. It takes a lot of resources like water and food to feed cows who add to the greenhouse effect via their gas emissions.
And some people do it because of health reasons, as ideally and usually it is a healthier diet, if done right.There are many, many healthy benefits.
I was one for 25 years. I quit when i ran into some thyroid problems as i was eating alot of soy which is a goitergen.
And when i quit soy i craved meat , for the first time in 25 yrs- But alot of the thyroid problems also robably came fromboth genetics and the fact for 9 yrs i ate at the healthfood store i owned and my cooks always used non iodized salt.
By the way sir, most of the worlds population are vegetarians- so whats your beef?
Interesting connection between the thyroid problems and the non-iodized salt. Normally, I eat a low-salt diet, so I think I'll look into iodine supplements or something like nori. Did you try anything like that?0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.0 -
I will give the same answer i gave in the Meat eater thread cause it works both ways
Circle of life.
Cabbage shall before me! Mwhahahaha0 -
I'm allergic to beef and pork and dislike the way chicken and turkey taste. Reason enough?0
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I was a vegetarian for many years. I just simply dont like meat. No big explanation. You might not like a certain food, I dont like meat. I have had to force myself to eat it because pregnancy and breast feeding made me very anemic. So I suck it up and eat it sometimes but I still dont like it.0
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If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.
My REASON is because I don't wantto contribute to animal slaughter. That IS reason enough. Give me a reason why you DO eat meat please. And I can cone back at you with any number of arguments that meat is HORRIBLE for human consumption, especially the way we feed cattle and fowl to get it all ready to murder for your consumption. Tell me WHY you need that steak, because I just don't see it as reason enough no matter what you say. You thinking my reason is not reason enough is arrogant.0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.
My REASON is because I don't wantto contribute to animal slaughter. That IS reason enough. Give me a reason why you DO eat meat please. And I can cone back at you with any number of arguments that meat is HORRIBLE for human consumption, especially the way we feed cattle and fowl to get it all ready to murder for your consumption. Tell me WHY you need that steak, because I just don't see it as reason enough no matter what you say. You thinking my reason is not reason enough is arrogant.
Arrogant and superior.0 -
And if you go to a slaughter house and can still eat meat, you are heartless.0
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I have a few reasons.
First, I'll give you a bit of background: For the majority of my life, until I was 25, I ate anything and everything, and that meant a LOT of McD's, Dairy Queen, Taco Bell, Wendy's, etc. etc., and yes a lot of cheeseburgers. Then, I became vegan, actually, first raw-foodist, then a vegan, and with this diet change, I lost around 40-50 pounds. (I never weighed myself, but I got down to about 115-120 and I can guess now how much I must have lost.) Anyway, suffice it to say: I got very slender. People thought I was perhaps becoming too skinny. I knew I was just shedding the pounds from many years of fast food- and fats-eating.
But after a few years, I started eating dairy - cheese on salads, is how it began. Then one year, I started eating eggs. Then, while on vacation 2 years ago, in Hawaii, I began eating fish. But that is where I will stop.
I don't have what everyone would consider a "logical" reason for this decision, but I do know when I look at my cats (my pets) and my friends' dogs (their pets) and see the same kind of 'being' that I see when I look at a cow, or a chicken, or even a pig (some people's pets) I couldn't eat those mammals. Not unless I was seriously starving, and it was either me - or that animal. Then I may consider it.
Since you asked, here are my 'reasons':
Reason #1: As I described above, for me, being a mostly-vegetarian is more about having a sensitivity about other living things. Yes, I still eat a little fish, seafood, here and there but I feel like the way seafood is 'caught' is quite different than the way poultry, beef, pork, etc. is 'raised and processed.' (Many of us have seen the very inhumane ways this food is raised.) When I watch a documentary on how cows are slaughtered, for instance, it's very hard for me to think of EVER eating a cow, especially if I don't have to.
Reason #2: There are so many other sources of protein that I can eat - I really don't NEED to eat the mass-produced, over-grown, mistreated cows, chickens, pigs.
Sub-Reason #2.2: Humans do not NEED as much meat as they typically consume. The amount of meat and meat by-products that are produced and sold to the public , and which are consumed by the average person in the U.S., is likely way out of proportion to the need. Here is a quote from Livestrong.com
"Typical Protein Requirements: Average men who are sedentary or who get little exercise need approximately 0.36 g of protein for every pound of body weight, according to the University of Arizona. If you're a 200-lb. man who doesn't work out frequently or vigorously, those guidelines mean you should consume about 72 g of protein each day. If you consume one chicken breast and 5 oz. of lean beef in a day, you've eaten enough protein." - Read more: http://www.livestrong.com/article/425810-how-much-protein-does-the-average-man-need/#ixzz1yZckIhwX
Reason #3: The total impact 'meat' has on our environment. This is something many do not fully consider. Just think of all the water used, and possibly chemicals, and all the other land-use practices that are applied to grow the feed for the cattle and livestock (all that grain, corn, etc) to provide what is really an OVERABUNDANCE of the meat we eat far too much of. Then think of how much methane all that livestock put into our air, gassing up our planet. It makes a real impact.
Thanks for letting me share my thoughts. - Heather 0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.
My REASON is because I don't wantto contribute to animal slaughter. That IS reason enough. Give me a reason why you DO eat meat please. And I can cone back at you with any number of arguments that meat is HORRIBLE for human consumption, especially the way we feed cattle and fowl to get it all ready to murder for your consumption. Tell me WHY you need that steak, because I just don't see it as reason enough no matter what you say. You thinking my reason is not reason enough is arrogant.
Arrogant and superior.
And in my neck of the woods...redneck. LoL!0 -
My REASON is because I don't wantto contribute to animal slaughter. That IS reason enough. Give me a reason why you DO eat meat please. And I can cone back at you with any number of arguments that meat is HORRIBLE for human consumption, especially the way we feed cattle and fowl to get it all ready to murder for your consumption. Tell me WHY you need that steak, because I just don't see it as reason enough no matter what you say. You thinking my reason is not reason enough is arrogant.
Nothing to get hostile about, do you honestly believe that you not eating meat will make a difference in animal slaughters though? I eat meat because I enjoy the flavor, I enjoy hunting and getting my own meat as well during the winter, does that make me a bad person because I humanely kill deer in order to partially feed myself? I also eat meat so I can meet my protein requirements, as well as the added benefits of BCAA's and creatine. I never once said that eating meat was a need, it's obviously a want, so please don't put words in my mouth and don't try to make me out as arrogant because I can't fathom your reasoning. I understand you wanting to end cruel animal slaughter, which I'm all for, but not eating meat isn't going to change anything, and that's the truth.0 -
I was vegetarian, and then vegan a number of years because i have digestive issues and animal products would make me horribly ill. I eat meat now, but i still have troubles with it.0
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for me, it's because vegetables are plentiful, nutritious and inexpensive. i'm not a vegetarian in the strictest sense, but my boyfriend is, so that has made me really think about where my food comes from, how it is raised, and what contribution my purchases make in the global economy.
honestly, i never thought about it much before i met him.
he had me read Diet For A New America and shortly after that I read Omnivore's Dilemma and the choice was pretty clear at that point; there is simply enough to eat without meat.
i have well over 35 years of meat-eating under my belt, so i'm not here to judge. it takes everyone time to find the balance that works for them.
i am not morally opposed to meat-eating; however, i am considerably bothered by factory farming methods. had i known earlier, i would have withdrawn my participation earlier. but i didn't. so here i am.
and i recognize that other actions to which i contribute aren't always good environmental nor humanistic choices, but i'm working on it; i do my best with what information i have at the moment i have it. and that's all any of us can do.
there would be very few instances where my boyfriend would consume meat on purpose, in his words, "only if it were a matter of survival" and at that point, it would be a truly last resort. but we both know how to forage and we're pretty resourceful overall, so it would have to be a pretty dire situation for us to go that route - well, at least him. i'll admit that i will cave over not-very-dire situations.
i have found in my time with him that i have made many other poor diet choices, even under a vegetarian diet. it wasn't until maybe the last 5 years i have really paid attention to where my food comes from and be an active participant in my own life. it has been an amazing experience that i hope more people are able to enjoy.0 -
Arrogant and superior.
I'm arrogant and superior? Get over yourself woman, all you do is belittle people and have the most pompous arrogant man I've ever talked to in my life as your husband. You can share your belief without acting childish, try that out for a change. But first, get over yourself.0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.
My REASON is because I don't wantto contribute to animal slaughter. That IS reason enough. Give me a reason why you DO eat meat please. And I can cone back at you with any number of arguments that meat is HORRIBLE for human consumption, especially the way we feed cattle and fowl to get it all ready to murder for your consumption. Tell me WHY you need that steak, because I just don't see it as reason enough no matter what you say. You thinking my reason is not reason enough is arrogant.
Arrogant and superior.
And in my neck of the woods...redneck. LoL!
I'm redneck because I eat meat? Hmmm, you must be such a great person trying to put people down for being normal. You must be so cool being such a self righteous animal protector. I bet you've never once done anything in your life to end animal cruelty, you just talk about it on the internet and that makes you feel like you've done something. And you say I'm arrogant, what a joke.0 -
If you really want to know why people are vegetarian/vegan you should watch Forks Over Knives or Vegucated or Food Matters.
I am a vegan myself, I don't care if you eat meat and cheese... whatever. To each his own.
But to say you "don't get it" is probably because you don't want to get it. You like your meat, you like your cheese, go ahead and eat it. That's fine. Don't act like you don't even understand or grasp the concept behind vegetarianism. It's pretty clear why people do it.
And your body is not made to sustain a meat based diet, plant based has been and will always be a more sustainable diet. It is better for your body, the animals, as well as the earth.
Your teeth are also not sharp like that of a lion or tiger, they're actually pretty flat (and don't try to tell me about canines, those are nothing compared to all your other teeth), your teeth are not made to rip flesh/muscle. Also your body isn't done as much good by meat as it is vegetables. Less risk of heart related diseases, strokes, high blood pressure and obesity
End rant.
I've watched all those movies on Netflix, there's nothing in them to turn someone into a vegetarian. Also, no it's not clear why most people choose vegetarianism, seems like half the time it's because people can't stand the thought of animals being killed so they think somehow by them being vegetarian it's going to change anything. For people with medical reasons it's understandable, if you don't like the taste of meat then it's understandable, but simply not eating meat for no reason seems ridiculous. If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat.
Let's not make an argument of teeth either, humans are more than capable obviously of eating and digesting meat, we don't need tiger fangs to be able to eat meat. There have been several cases of cannibalism where the person did his/her deed without the assistance of modern silverware, their teeth were more than enough.
Again, why do YOU care what other people deem proper nutrition for themselves? As far as a vegetarian not being able to "change anything" , its about doing what you think is right. Ever heard of the qoute "Be the change you want to see in the world" ? Do you see all these companies proudly promoting CAGE FREE, ORGANIC, HUMANELY RAISED. Thats because people spoke up about what they wanted in their food.. So its not "ridiculous " to not eat meat, its a personal choice that should be respected.0 -
FitFireMan: "If you have no medical reason to not eat meat and you actually like the taste of meat but choose not to eat it, then that person is probably someone who doesn't eat meat because they can't handle thinking about a cow being killed or any other animal. Which in that case, it's a ridiculous reason to not eat meat."
Ridiculous [def]: Deserving or inviting derision or mockery; absurd.0 -
no, a Roomba does not exercise self preservation like a plant does. Or some of the more sophisticated AI that is being developed.
If you're worried about the well-being of plants, the best way to minimize harming plants is to eat them directly, rather than raising crops to feed livestock then eating livestock. You could feed the whole world on the plant foods fed to livestock alone. And then your body will still require plants for the nutrients that meat, eggs, and dairy don't provide. But aside from B-12 (and there is a debate about this but I do supplement), there is nothing you get from eating animals and their secretions that you can't get from plants.
Veganism is the most efficient, least harmful, most environmental way to eat, plain and simple.0 -
Geesh. Didn't realize I was posting my post in the middle of an argument. Ah -- forums. So fun.
I did read some of the above argument - which I think is getting quite immature and non-respectful. I have to point out: saying that not eating meat for no reason is 'ridiculous' is really judgmental, not to mention rude. What business is it of yours if people decide they don't want to eat meat? They don't have to explain that to you. What if I don't eat broccoli, for no reason? Are you going to judge me on that?
I hope others are being more grown up, respectful, and not judgmental here. Try to live a life where you are setting an example for others, not instigating more friction and possibly hatred.0 -
Again, why do YOU care what other people deem proper nutrition for themselves? As far as a vegetarian not being able to "change anything" , its about doing what you think is right. Ever heard of the qoute "Be the change you want to see in the world" ? Do you see all these companies proudly promoting CAGE FREE, ORGANIC, HUMANELY RAISED. Thats because people spoke up about what they wanted in their food.. So its not "ridiculous " to not eat meat, its a personal choice that should be respected.
Where did I ever say that I don't respect someones choice to be vegan or vegetarian? If anything I've said the complete opposite. I also never claimed to care what other people deem as proper nutrition, I merely want an understand of why someone chooses to be vegetarian if they have no medical reasoning and they actually enjoy the taste. "Be the change you want to see in the world", that's all cute and everything in fairytale land but we live in real life. You want animal cruelty to end then what are you doing on the internet talking about it, actually go out and make some real progress on the matter. Otherwise you're doing nothing for ending animal cruelty.0
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