Vegetarians - why?

I am posting my answers again. Not that anyone will notice. People LOVE drama.

Thanks for letting me share my thoughts. (Yes, I am a peaceful person, and I am not going to fight with you about what you EAT.)

No, you are a redneck because you think your opinion is the only one that matters....LOL....no, actually I don't know if you are a redneck or not and shouldn't have said that. You are, however, very ignorant IMO. You asked for people's reasons why they don't eat meat. I gave you mine and you told me it wasn't a good enough reason. Who are you to tell me it isn't a good enough reason? That's right, nobody.

As to whether or not I've done anything to protect animal rights, it really isn't any of your damn business. But since you have baited me into this stupid discussion, I will tell you that I'm very involved with animal rescues - especially avian rescues. ( that means bird to you). And I've dealt with, many times, people who don't give a freaking crap about animals...you know, people like you who like to kill for pleasure. Don't get me started on this subject buddy. It's a conversation you don't want to have. Grow up and accept everybody's reasons as being as valid as your reasons.

I like to kill animals for pleasure now? You clearly have something wrong with you, seek help. Who are you calling anyone ignorant when you're saying that I kill deer for some sick pleasure? I've stated several times already that I myself do not like cruelty towards animals, I also stated that I humanely kill deer to FEED MYSELF. Someone you turn preservation into perversion, and I'm the one who needs to grow up? Seriously so pathetic how you have no argument so you twist situations into something they're not, that's something someone would do that needs to grow up. I also never said that I didn't accept people being vegetarian, I said I didn't understand the reasoning for ethical vegetarianism. Again, something you're twisting around because you have no valid argument. It's sad that you have to make things up in order to try and have an argument, I pity you.

You pity me? LOL. Thanks...when I was 23, I was out having fun with my friends on Friday night. Not sitting around on MFP, or any other website, discussing the virtues of being a meat eater over being a vegan. LOL. Don't pity me. I have a life. ( Was that nasty of me??) As to needing help, I have needed counseling to deal with the horrific things I've seen in rescue. It does change you. I hope you never have to see what I've seen. But then, I'm very sure I will never have to worry about that. You seem too immature to worry about helping anybody or anything but yourself.

Anyway, you asked why I didn't eat meat. I told you. Then you said it was a ridiculous reason. Wouldn't you be irked if someone asked you why you DO eat meat, you answer, and then thet tell you it was a stupid reason? as I stated earlier, it's a hot button for me. So press it, and I unleash. Sorry about that kiddo.

If you have a PC, and you can afford the Internet and a ell phone, then you can go to the store a buy meat. You don't have to hunt and kill it for food. I don't want to hear that crap. And unless you kill it with a bow and arrow, I know what a box buck shot cost these days. Go buy some groud beef. It's cheaper. And spare me your preservation crap.

Please explain your stance. You're giving him flak for hunting his own meat, rather than supporting the factory-meat industry.

when i was a vegetarian...it was my love for animals. STILL IS!!
its so heartbreaking seeing those videos of them being tortured...it kills me
but i do realize we need protein and..as much as i hate it, i do eat meat now
but i eat ORGANIC and as natural as i can..peace of mind, if you will
i really wish i could be a vegetarian.....:brokenheart: maybe pescatarian?

Yeah, me too. And I'm thankful they respect their elders.

I give respect when it's given back, you've been nothing but disrespectful so don't expect me to treat you any differently because you're older than me. You don't just earn respect on the internet, I'm sorry that you feel like you do.

You are the one using profanity and rudeness to get your point across. You also have some baffling ideas about women. For instance, you somehow think my husband's statements here are mine. By the way, where I come from addressing someone who is 35 years older than you as 'woman' is rude.

I've been a vegetarian for 9 years, and honestly, it really comes down to taste preferences for me. I don't like how meat tastes. I don't like how it smells, and I don't like how it feels (either when I'm eating it or when it's sitting in my stomach). I also get creeped out at the thought of eating muscles when I myself am made of muscles. It's just too close for my liking.

That said, I don't care if other people choose to eat meat; that's totally their preference. If it doesn't bother them, then I don't see it as my business to try and gross them out or convert them. If there ever came a time where I had to eat meat or die, or if my desire to eat a steak overwhelmed my distaste for it, I would do it. I actually have tried meat a few times over the past few years to see if I really wanted to continue being vegetarian, and every time it (the meat in question) was just not for me.

I've been a vegetarian for 9 years, and honestly, it really comes down to taste preferences for me. I don't like how meat tastes. I don't like how it smells, and I don't like how it feels (either when I'm eating it or when it's sitting in my stomach). I also get creeped out at the thought of eating muscles when I myself am made of muscles. It's just too close for my liking.

That said, I don't care if other people choose to eat meat; that's totally their preference. If it doesn't bother them, then I don't see it as my business to try and gross them out or convert them. If there ever came a time where I had to eat meat or die, or if my desire to eat a steak overwhelmed my distaste for it, I would do it. I actually have tried meat a few times over the past few years to see if I really wanted to continue being vegetarian, and every time it (the meat in question) was just not for me.

Good god THANK YOU for answering the question. Everyone was assuming he was trying to be a jerk and getting their panties in a wad for nothing. It's nice to know someone out there will answer a question without trying to look for an argument. I honestly wanted to know too, not because I judge, just because I wanted to know what the bigger population of vegetarians were. Either opposed to killing animals or just for taste alone. I've never asked because it's hard to do it without people jumping the gun and turning it around into something negative. You my dear, have earned a smiley face for being genuine :bigsmile: (I picked the green one because it reminded me of plants haha)

are people really judging someone on how they spend their Friday nights? lol that is sad.

I didn't have to hit the clubs to have fun. Anyway, I have serious doubts that you have seen a thing in your life that would shock me. And that you for putting a bullet between the eyes of Bambi so you can spare him pain. Wish everybody could be so humane.

And a quote from you earlier in this thread: "You clearly share the same elitist views if you chose to marry someone who speaks to people like he does... " If you have a problem with him, deal with him.

Red meat makes me sick as a dog and is absolutely LOADED with fat.

Loaded in fat compared to what?

Compared to beans, tofu, veggies, fish, chicken, pasta, turkey etc....I just feel like red meat (steak, prime rib, hamburger, pork) is pretty much all fat. I am not sure about the percentages but all I know is that is quite high in fat and I think that is what makes me so sick. Most of the things I eat are very low fat. I will say I have absolutely nothing against people eating red meat I just don't like it. My Dad has lost 100 pounds on the Atkins diet but I just try and stick to low fat

And a quote from you earlier in this thread: "You clearly share the same elitist views if you chose to marry someone who speaks to people like he does... " If you have a problem with him, deal with him.

I said you have the same elitist views, which you've proven, so how does that mean that mean that your husbands statements were yours?

Really, where did I say I was better than anyone else? I make *I* statements, which means when I talk about the reasons I am vegetarian, they are about me and no one else.

And again, you royally miss the point.

I think jsl_mfp understands what I mean.

I'm talking about food availability at THAT MOMENT in time. Vegetables per mass are far lower calorie than meat, generally speaking, no? Thus having the same amount of calories available to your population at that one moment in time would use more land, theoretically. As I said, the maths would need to be done.

And for the record, I simply can't choke down enough plant matter to meet my (above average) protein and calorie needs - meat provides them in a more condensed, easier to swallow form, for ME.

I'm a practical person. If vegetarianism was practical for me, I would be vegetarian.

I do get your meaning but you're incorrect. And I am a mathematician, so let me try to explain this.

Say we want a cow to eat for protein. We'd need 15 fields of plant proteins for EACH AND EVERY POUND of protein we'll get from a cow. We are talking protein for protein now, not calories. If you want to go there, then calorie for calorie, broccoli has more than twice the protein of a steak. Maybe we should be growing 2 or 3 fields of broccoli for *people* to eat, instead of 15 fields of grains for *cows* to eat.

But I think your real gripe is that you prefer to eat cows, which I totally understand and accept. Just don't sit there and tell me that cows are some kind of efficient way to get your protein. They're about the most inefficient way to get your protein. Accept the truth about your choice instead of using nonsense to try to justify it.

Okay, you don't get my point. That much is clear. The hostility is unnecessary by the way.