A size 6 is plus size...wtf.

BWHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

RIDICULOUS.

Yeah, that's plus size for a fashion model, not the real world. I'm not surprised or offended in any way. They're models.

Models wear real clothes btw. You do realize that those clothes go for sale eventually right? If you check a website like shopbop.com and also piperlime I think they list the models measurements and current size that they are wearing.

In the modeling world, that's true because "sample size" is a size 2 SOMETIMES a 4. But usually a 2. It isn't the same as "plus sized" in normal people world. Plus sizes in department stores don't begin until about a size 16-18 I believe.

Nobody thinks a size 6 is plus sized in real life. It's only referred to that in fashion because it is larger than sample size. Designers use these thin models to show the garment, as if they were human hangers. Many designers are beginning to refuse to hire models who do not appear to be healthy, which I think is a step in the right direction, but I think the terminology ("plus" sized for anything larger than sample size) needs to be revised.

So true - I saw this same statement and my FAVE (actually double-digit sized) model, Heather Hazzan, replied to it in much the same way - it's a label used by a very strangely disconnected group of people, who unfortunately happen to have control over much of the fashion market and its dialogue....well, for now they do. The tables are turning, albeit very very slowly. Until then, I'll just know that I'm "plus size" with an amazing variety of other women!

I stumbled across and article on Yahoo! that said that in the model world a size 6 is "plus sized." What do you all think?

THIS is why we have eating disorders! Nooo size 6 is quite small.

If a size 6 can be deemed plus size in the model world, then I'll be on cloud 9 and a size 8 or 10 to be normal in the real world.

i might as well give up now then.

Not to make the average women feel bad but in the modelling industry standard, size 6 is indeed considered big. I repeat it is big ONLY for that industry but not to the entire general population. Just because a certain size is big for a certain industry doesn't mean it is big overall.

Modelling is a career that not everyone is meant to have. Being a model is like being an engineer, doctor or architect, wherein you need to have the degree plus a license in order for you to become one. A lawyer cannot become a doctor unless he also studied medicine plus a license to qualify him to practice taht profession. Same goes for modelling.

Don't feel bad whenever someone or an article says it. We just need to accept that not everyone is meant to become a VS or a ramp model. However it doesn't mean that you cannot be the best that you can be.

Not to mention most models are tall, so as size 2 on a model could be a way less BMI compared to a shorter normal woman who wears a size 2.

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A fashion size six is a size ten sold in stores. Just so you know. If that helps at all.

I go to fashion school, so I figured I would chime in.

I think everyone will ignore you to be honest. They just want to hear someone bash models for promoting eating disorders while they continue to claim that they're not even "real people" and live in another world called the model world.

I think this posts just make people feel better about not wanting to get in shape and be healthy. Model sizes and measurements are realistic and attainable for their body type. Most models look pretty healthy as a matter of fact.

I find it offensive when the "real women" bash on waif thin women as anorexic, curveless etc. just to cover up their own insecurities. I was also obese before & also accepted the fate that I would never become a model because of the way I was built. However I don't see any reason to bash on those women.

And fyi, rolls of fat DOES NOT equal curves.

A fashion size six is a size ten sold in stores. Just so you know. If that helps at all.

I go to fashion school, so I figured I would chime in.

I think everyone will ignore you to be honest. They just want to hear someone bash models for promoting eating disorders while they continue to claim that they're not even "real people" and live in another world called the model world.

I think these posts just make people feel better about not wanting to get in shape and be healthy. Model sizes and measurements are realistic and attainable for their body type. Most models look pretty healthy as a matter of fact.

you're completely right, not even sure why I tried. at my fittest I was a 4/6 in normal people clothes, but in fashion sizes I was still an 8/10. people just don't look into it. it's completely different. literally all of the measurements are different when you go from ready to wear to runway. it's not even remotely the same pattern.

*sigh* continue bashing models everyone.... but you have to admit, they make great hangers and don't distract from the garment they're wearing (which is the whole point...soooo I don't really get the whole idealizing thing..maybe it's because i'm around it consistently, not really sure.

What is normal people clothes? I always hear "model clothes" vs "normal clothes" but the clothes that models wear go on sale for non models to purchase also. Its not like the fashion designers get paid to create a walking museum.

I only model bash because I'm so short actually. I wish i had tall people genes!

A fashion size six is a size ten sold in stores. Just so you know. If that helps at all.

I go to fashion school, so I figured I would chime in.

I think everyone will ignore you to be honest. They just want to hear someone bash models for promoting eating disorders while they continue to claim that they're not even "real people" and live in another world called the model world.

I think these posts just make people feel better about not wanting to get in shape and be healthy. Model sizes and measurements are realistic and attainable for their body type. Most models look pretty healthy as a matter of fact.

you're completely right, not even sure why I tried. at my fittest I was a 4/6 in normal people clothes, but in fashion sizes I was still an 8/10. people just don't look into it. it's completely different. literally all of the measurements are different when you go from ready to wear to runway. it's not even remotely the same pattern.

*sigh* continue bashing models everyone.... but you have to admit, they make great hangers and don't distract from the garment they're wearing (which is the whole point...soooo I don't really get the whole idealizing thing..maybe it's because i'm around it consistently, not really sure.

What is normal people clothes? I always hear "model clothes" vs "normal clothes" but the clothes that models wear go on sale for non models to purchase also. Its not like the fashion designers get paid to create a walking museum.

the main difference is that runway is completely architectural and generally does not have all the fixtures of normal clothing. also, runway is single items produced individually while ready to wear ("normal") clothes are mass produced, generally by machines, for the public to purchase. runway is also usually all hand made. a lot of the time the patterns are also altered not just for size when it goes into a store collection but also for the average height of women (or men) as opposed to the height of the model that it was fitted for. it needs to be remembered that every garment on the runway was tailored specifically for the model that is wearing it.

A fashion size six is a size ten sold in stores. Just so you know. If that helps at all.

I go to fashion school, so I figured I would chime in.

What do you mean by "fashion size"? Does that apply to high-end fashion, or like, industry prototype/show garments?

A fashion size six is a size ten sold in stores. Just so you know. If that helps at all.

I go to fashion school, so I figured I would chime in.

What do you mean by "fashion size"? Does that apply to high-end fashion, or like, industry prototype/show garments?

fashion size is the size on the runway. the size models wear.
it's usually called 2 sizes bigger than what is sold as ready to wear in stores (i.e macy's, tjmaxx, etc.). so a 6 is a 10, 8 is a 12, etc. I'm not talking about specialty boutiques, they carry whatever they want, it depends who they buy from.

That's really interesting. I'd never heard of that before! And it is reassuring to know that a size 2, 5'11" model might really be a size 4 or 6, which I still think is unnervingly thin, but better than it originally sounds.

It seems weird to me to dramatically alter the pattern for mass production after show. Is it altered so it fits, lets say a "normal" size 8 person the same way it would fit a "fashion" size 2 model? Like increasing the bust/waist/hip ratios? Or is it altered even further?