What really makes us fat (NYTimes.com)

gomisskellygo · July 2012

Reading all of these different points has left me confused. Which is best - low carbohydrate diet or otherwise?

Adherence is, by far, the #1 predictor of success or failure on a diet. So the best diet is the one that:

1. Creates a caloric deficit.
2. You can consistently adhere to.

^^ this

bit of a long read but well worth it

http://www.cspinet.org/nah/11_02/bigfatlies.pdf

Great article!

Bobby_Clerici · July 2012

What makes you fat?
In-taking more calories than your body burns off.
Duh!
And guess what made me fit?
Same thing but in reverse.
I don't do any kind of diets.
Eating healthy 90% of the time is actually quite simple. I eat lean meats, low fat dairy, nuts, whole grains, fruits and veggies.
Simple deal.
And once the lifestyle becomes habit, it gets easy.

RobynMWilson · July 2012

I have to lower my carbs to increase my protein for P90X but let's face it...I'm a busy girl who starts work at 6am and drives kids for a living. Add to it a side business I'm trying to build, helping my parents, working out, living life and if I expect to have the energy to do all of this I'd better eat some carbs or you'll be reading about a school bus accident in NJ from a driver who fell asleep at the wheel. I'm not buying that bacon is better for me than a banana b/c of the high sugar content in a banana. I am, however, buying the idea that refined carbs and processed foods make me feel like crap and the more I'm moving away from the processed crap and eating REAL food again, the better I feel and look. And the carbs I choose? Whole grain, brown rice, etc b/c my body just doesn't digest refined carbs well anymore.

grrrlface · July 2012

I'm vegetarian so my biggest intake on a daily basis is carbs... Lost 3lbs this week, it's not making me fat.

What made me fat was the endless amount of food I used to put in my mouth. So I made ME fat, I didn't have to but I did.

If people ate a nutritionally balanced diet suited to them then there would be no need for cutting certain food groups.

MoveTheMountain · July 2012

Great article - thanks!

RayRay1500 · July 2012

There are so many people doing low fat and still cannot lose. There are so many people doing low fat and are still diabetic and hypertensive. It does not matter who says it, low carb gets these numbers in a good range and takes off the weight.

wolfi622 · July 2012

And my Naturopathic Dr is a registered holistic dietician as well as a General M.D. - she is far from a quack.

You have a "Naturopath" holistic dietitian that went to medical school? Wow, that's very unusual.

LesterBlackstone · July 2012

There are so many people doing low fat and still cannot lose. There are so many people doing low fat and are still diabetic and hypertensive.

The same can be said for low carb.

RayRay1500 · July 2012

Low-carb diets increase the stress hormone cortisol, CRP, which is an inflammation marker linked to heart disease and diabetes, and overall mortality.

That is funny, then how do patients on low carb diets have their numbers decrease so much that they do not have to take any medicine?????

RayRay1500 · July 2012

There are so many people doing low fat and still cannot lose. There are so many people doing low fat and are still diabetic and hypertensive.

The same can be said for low carb.

Maybe, but I have never seen it in working in over ten years in the medical field. I should have said my own personal experience.

kalynn06 · July 2012

Low-carb diets increase the stress hormone cortisol, CRP, which is an inflammation marker linked to heart disease and diabetes, and overall mortality.

That is funny, then how do patients on low carb diets have their numbers decrease so much that they do not have to take any medicine?????

The blood work numbers they use to determine most common medications are not generally the stress markers that increase. Losing weight tends to lower blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. no matter how you lose it. Inflammation causes damage that predisposes you to disease but the results of this inflammation are usually seen farther down the road rather than immediately when blood markers go up. There need to be longer term studies to follow people on these diets and determine how long the inflammation lasts and if it has long term consequences.

RayRay1500 · July 2012

Low-carb diets increase the stress hormone cortisol, CRP, which is an inflammation marker linked to heart disease and diabetes, and overall mortality.

That is funny, then how do patients on low carb diets have their numbers decrease so much that they do not have to take any medicine?????

The blood work numbers they use to determine most common medications are not generally the stress markers that increase. Losing weight tends to lower blood pressure, cholesterol, etc. no matter how you lose it. Inflammation causes damage that predisposes you to disease but the results of this inflammation are usually seen farther down the road rather than immediately when blood markers go up. There need to be longer term studies to follow people on these diets and determine how long the inflammation lasts and if it has long term consequences.

@, I just have not heard of this. Can you document the medical literature that backs this up?

BoydLabBuck · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

BrianSharpe · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

"Until then we still have strong anecdotal data that the paleo diet is the best treatment for obesity."

The plural of anecdote is not data.

LesterBlackstone · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html

and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

BoydLabBuck · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html

and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

Acg67 · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html

and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

Paleo/primal/low carb works the same way every other diet works, a caloric deficit.

LesterBlackstone · July 2012

http://robbwolf.com/2012/07/06/maintaining-weight-loss-jama-study/

LULZ @ Wolf trying to shoehorn this BS into his Paleo agenda.

Much better analysis here:

http://anthonycolpo.com/?p=3680

and here

http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2012/06/new-study-is-calorie-calorie.html

and here

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/modest-proposal-for-peer-review.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/friday-jama-lama-ding-dong.html

http://carbsanity.blogspot.com/2012/06/more-on-ebbeling-etal-jama-study.html

I don't post that for your pleasure, I post it for the hundreds of people on this site that continue to struggle with weight loss because you post your tired "eat less, workout more" over and over again.

“The good thing about science is that it's true whether or not you believe in it.”
― Neil deGrasse Tyson

There sure seems to be a hell of a lot of "anecdotes" that primal / paleo works for many people.

As has already been pointed out: the plural of anecdote is not data. Paleo works the same way every other diet works - by creating a caloric deficit.

If you find that you can adhere to it, fine. But just as many find the nonsensical exclusion of perfectly healthy food to be counterproductive.

heatgal976 · July 2012

LMAO! :laugh:

**AS I MUNCH ON MY BOWL OF WHITE RICE** :drinker:

Septlondon · July 2012

well reading the above comments has been an interesting experience. I wonder why some people are getting so angry and 'superior' about it all. All I know is if I eat sugar and grains I am ill and in a lot of pain, if I don't eat them I am well. I get my carbohydrates from vegetables and fruit. The whole ''if you were just more disciplined and ate less you would be thin thing makes me smile, been there done that, still felt like cr@p. Sugar and grains are bad for me (not talking about anybody else). I feel no need to try and convert anybody, if what you choose to eat really works for you that is great and just fantastic. Lets face it we are a very versitile species, we just need to look at the huge variety of ethnic diets in the world, and each diet type has healthy happy active contributing people eating it.

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