Shooting @ Batman Movie Premeire

Heartbraking, prayers for all xx

It is horrible and I cannot even fathom what these poor people are going through. However, I cannot stop asking myself why there were 3 month and 4 month old babies in a movie theater after midnight?

It's not the infants that bother me. I've taken a couple of my kids to movies when they were that young. I timed it around naps and if they woke up I just nursed them back to sleep. It's the 4 and 6 year olds that are disturbing. It's late. It's a violent movie. It's no place for kids that age.

he "smiled" because he claims to be the joker and we all know the joker has a **** eating grin on his face

This is undoubtedly sad.

The question we would ask in England is how did he get kevlar helmet, kevlar vest, assault rifle, and a hand gun - but our attitude to guns is very different

Came here to write this, from Canada, it shouldn't be a shock to a lot of people this happened. When someone can buy these things and have them in their house, it's bound to happen! Just takes one crazy guy, this had nothing to do with the actual movie...

It's the crazy guy's fault, not the fact that guns are legal here.

Agree!!! This is a horrible tragedy and if the man wanted to kill those people he would have found a way to do it, gun or not. Tragedies like this always bring out the anti-gun people who try to turn a tragedy into a political move. :explode:

When things like this happen the tragedy isn't only the loss of life but all the "anti" people that come out and try to politicize it but still get nowhere on the issue. The anti-gun, anti-music, anti-video game, anti-movie lot always come out. To think any one thing is responsible is just naive. It's just as naive to think any one of these things is not a factor. Admittedly, it's not the legality of guns but the crazy guy that's to blame, but the fact of the matter is that knives can be gotten at the supermarket. Bats and golf clubs can be obtained at a sport goods store. How hard does one have to look to get a brick? But more often than not these crazy ****s go for the guns to do the most and maximum amount of damage. Gun control needs to be discussed. Yes, I understand the right to protect your home and all that, and I even agree. But where do you live when you need an assault rifle and body armor to defend your home?

This is undoubtedly sad.

The question we would ask in England is how did he get kevlar helmet, kevlar vest, assault rifle, and a hand gun - but our attitude to guns is very different

Came here to write this, from Canada, it shouldn't be a shock to a lot of people this happened. When someone can buy these things and have them in their house, it's bound to happen! Just takes one crazy guy, this had nothing to do with the actual movie...

I would be willing to bet you my house against a 5 dollar bill that the guns were not obtained legally. People always bring up gun laws like they actually help prevent these issues. Criminals will have/get guns if they are legal or not. Cocaine has been illegal for years and coke heads still get their hands on plenty of it.

When can I move into my mew house? The NewYork Times is reporting that all the weapons and clips had been legally purchased. The large clips had not been legal prior to 2004, but the ban on assault rifles expired.

Yup, all the weapons were legally obtained. Whether they are obtained legally or not if someone wants a gun they are going to get one. Not sure if it's the same in the US however here in Canada they have Police/Security personel stores. You can go in and purchase vests, uniforms, etc etc. They do take your name and information and check ID however all the stuff is easily attainable which is scary.

Still unclear as to why he did what he did but he had some sort of plan. He had his apartment boobytrapped in case he didn't make it to Police custody alive . . . any officer that entered his apartment would of also died due to the explosives.

VERY sad situation. We recently had a large shooting here in Ontario (Toronto... only a month after the Eaton Centre Shooting).

#2: gun control isn't the issue, just as we don't ban cars and driving because drunks across the country kill people.. Whoever wants to hurt people WILL FIND A WAY. The war is on the inside, spiritually and psychologically.

I don't agree. People may still find a way, but guns make that way so so so much easier. Look at the Norway shootings last summer. Gun control may not solve the problem, but it would make it much harder to kill so many so quickly.

I wonder how many of the people who were at the theater were responsible gun owners and chose to leave their guns at home. Just because one crazy decides to abuse his right to own guns by going out and killing innocent people shouldn't mean everyone else should be denied their constitutional right to own guns. Maybe if those people at the theater would have been able to carry their guns with them into the theater, one of them could have taken out the crazy man before he had the chance to kill and injure as many people as he did. And for the record, I'm not a gun owner.

Just WHY?!

I find it both extremely freaky and extremely sad that Jessica was killed in this incident

I just learned that one of the people killed in this tragedy was a survivor of the Toronto Mall shooting. She's the only publicly known victim so far. Here is her blog post about the Toronto shooting she wrote just a few weeks ago. http://jessicaredfield.wordpress.com/

How very, very sad!

Wow that is so creepy. How in the world did she miss one attack to only be hit by the next. Scary!

You know what's even creepier! Someone sent me a link to a tweet she sent out the day of the Toronto Mall shooting, she said there was a man dressed as batman at the mall shouting "My parents are dead" and charging tourists to take photos with him. My mind is just so blown and it is just too sad to fathom. She also tweeted that she had to 'coerce' her boyfriend to go to that showing. The boyfriend survived. I am praying for everyone affected by this. This sort of thing is just happening more and more often and it's so disheartening.

Just plain freaky and sad ..

#2: gun control isn't the issue, just as we don't ban cars and driving because drunks across the country kill people.. Whoever wants to hurt people WILL FIND A WAY. The war is on the inside, spiritually and psychologically.

I don't agree. People may still find a way, but guns make that way so so so much easier. Look at the Norway shootings last summer. Gun control may not solve the problem, but it would make it much harder to kill so many so quickly.

I wonder how many of the people who were at the theater were responsible gun owners and chose to leave their guns at home. Just because one crazy decides to abuse his right to own guns by going out and killing innocent people shouldn't mean everyone else should be denied their constitutional right to own guns. Maybe if those people at the theater would have been able to carry their guns with them into the theater, one of them could have taken out the crazy man before he had the chance to kill and injure as many people as he did. And for the record, I'm not a gun owner.

Other people having guns in this situation most likely would have made this horrible situation worse. The gum man had protection on. A bulletproof vest, gas mask and riot helmet. Not only that he threw in a gas bomb in a darkened theatre, so even seeing him would have been difficult. I doubt a highly trained police officer would have been able to take him down before any casualties had occurred. Add to that a civilian with guns would probably have ended up killing someone with friendly fire.

praying for them all! very sad

#2: gun control isn't the issue, just as we don't ban cars and driving because drunks across the country kill people.. Whoever wants to hurt people WILL FIND A WAY. The war is on the inside, spiritually and psychologically.

I don't agree. People may still find a way, but guns make that way so so so much easier. Look at the Norway shootings last summer. Gun control may not solve the problem, but it would make it much harder to kill so many so quickly.

I wonder how many of the people who were at the theater were responsible gun owners and chose to leave their guns at home. Just because one crazy decides to abuse his right to own guns by going out and killing innocent people shouldn't mean everyone else should be denied their constitutional right to own guns. Maybe if those people at the theater would have been able to carry their guns with them into the theater, one of them could have taken out the crazy man before he had the chance to kill and injure as many people as he did. And for the record, I'm not a gun owner.

Other people having guns in this situation most likely would have made this horrible situation worse. The gum man had protection on. A bulletproof vest, gas mask and riot helmet. Not only that he threw in a gas bomb in a darkened theatre, so even seeing him would have been difficult. I doubt a highly trained police officer would have been able to take him down before any casualties had occurred. Add to that a civilian with guns would probably have ended up killing someone with friendly fire.

I agree. Anti-gun control people actually try to use incidents like this to prove their point, because having a (concealed) gun is necessary for "protection" from things like this. It's ridiculous, you can't have it both ways. And true, some people will find a way to get guns if they are harder to get, but not everyone, and maybe not this person.

I don't understand this so called constitutional right to arm yourself with a gun. It seems obvious the more guns there are in a society the more likely these tragedies are to occur. Those who think guns are not an issue are kidding themselves. Do they think carrying a gun makes them safer?

say on tv i think he wanted to be famouse thats why he smiled in his mug shoot!

They have not released his mug shot due to the ongoing investigation--the photo is from something else.

Also, to whoever commented on the young children being in the theater--this is not the time to blame the victims.

To the rest of you sending prayers and condolences...Colorado says thank you.


~Colorado resident~

#2: gun control isn't the issue, just as we don't ban cars and driving because drunks across the country kill people.. Whoever wants to hurt people WILL FIND A WAY. The war is on the inside, spiritually and psychologically.

I don't agree. People may still find a way, but guns make that way so so so much easier. Look at the Norway shootings last summer. Gun control may not solve the problem, but it would make it much harder to kill so many so quickly.

I wonder how many of the people who were at the theater were responsible gun owners and chose to leave their guns at home. Just because one crazy decides to abuse his right to own guns by going out and killing innocent people shouldn't mean everyone else should be denied their constitutional right to own guns. Maybe if those people at the theater would have been able to carry their guns with them into the theater, one of them could have taken out the crazy man before he had the chance to kill and injure as many people as he did. And for the record, I'm not a gun owner.

Other people having guns in this situation most likely would have made this horrible situation worse. The gum man had protection on. A bulletproof vest, gas mask and riot helmet. Not only that he threw in a gas bomb in a darkened theatre, so even seeing him would have been difficult. I doubt a highly trained police officer would have been able to take him down before any casualties had occurred. Add to that a civilian with guns would probably have ended up killing someone with friendly fire.

And this.