What foods should I stop eating?
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You'll probably find you'll cut out certain things over time as you realize the calories aren't worth the flavor...but those decisions depend on your taste buds and preferences. I pretty much gave up pizza in weight-loss mode because I don't love it enough to eat naked lettuce for the rest of the day, but I know a lot of people make room for it.0
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blktngldhrt wrote: »Some people need to cut out certain foods. It's ridiculous that you lump everyone together in the same category and say that everyone can eat any food..in moderation. Not everyone can. You can have your little Debbie cakes all to yourself.
no- it is perfectly reasonable. everyone CAN eat in moderation.
will they? some people will not. Some people lack the will power to eat certain foods in moderation- and for a period of time they will eliminate them as they develop self discipline. That is not a matter of can or cannot- that is a matter of a lack of a skill set and the time to develop it- and guess what- self discipline- IS a skill- which can be DEVELOPED.
You're already cutting people off at the knees saying they cannot do something.
The reality is they CAN eat in moderation... they just have to work at it- and it takes longer - or for some people it's not worth the work that is required to get to that point. Some people are dealing with a mental/psychological issue- not a food issue- again- which can be addressed and worked on.
It's a process.
But everyone at some point CAN engage in moderation. It's possible for everyone to be able to do that... (we are excluding medical issues for the purposes of this conversation).
Don't put people automatically in a box to say they cannot do something.
I know everyone can eat in moderation. Not everyone can eat all types of food. What was mentioned about how anyone can eat any food was putting people in a box automatically.. Which is what I was responding to.
Some people don't have any intolerances. Some do. And I'm not just talking about big medical conditions like diabetes. If you want to cut some foods.. Cut them and see if it makes you feel better. If not, introduce them back in. Everyone is different.0 -
richardheath wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »blktngldhrt wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
That depends on your definition of real. Real to some people might mean food made up of ingredients that occur naturally and not in a lab. Also, not everyone can eat everything..even in moderation. Plenty of people can, and will, eat anything they want. They may even eat however much they want. Hell, my boyfriend ate a half dozen apple turnovers in a day and he was fine. That doesn't mean I could do the same. Even a serving size of an apple turnover would mess me up for the rest of the day. Just because something works for you doesn't mean it will work for everyone. Some people need to cut out certain foods. It's ridiculous that you lump everyone together in the same category and say that everyone can eat any food..in moderation. Not everyone can. You can have your little Debbie cakes all to yourself.
What do you mean it would mess you up for a day?
What do you mean your boyfriend was "fine"? Eat half a dozen apple turnovers everyday for a week and see if he gains weight.
It's still moderation.
It would mess me up for a day as in..I would feel like crap the rest of the day and struggle to get my blood glucose levels back up to where they should be.
He probably wouldn't gain a pound in all honesty.
I'm all for moderation and everything else that was said.. Except for the point about everyone being able to do it, as in eat anything. It's not possible for everyone. Some are unlucky enough to have more restrictions than others.
If you have a medical condition such as diabetes that affects your blood sugar abnormally after eating certain foods then obviously you should not eat (or at least restrict) those certain foods. In conversations such as this, the (usually) unwritten caveat is "baring any medical conditions".
Even without a medical condition, cutting certain foods could be beneficial. Anything that makes a person feel less than their best should probably be removed from their diet.
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That depends. What's your goal?cherith778 wrote: »If I was to cut a food completely out of my diet, what should it be? I.e chocolate, chips, energy drinks, ect.
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I've largely cut duck tongue out of my diet. It was a new delicacy to try, but it's hard to get over the texture and feeling like you're chewing on your own tongue (if it had a bone in it).0
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But you know what's even more entertaining? Faceless acting speaking as if they know what they're talking about. When in fact they don't.LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
It's funny cause they're oblivious.
Yes, I am oblivious as to why most of you on this forum have the ideas about food that you do.0 -
.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and boundless energy and no junk cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
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Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and muscle mass and immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence is doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
48 year old female maintaining physique on 4000+ calories a day of nutrient dense food? Impressive.
All of what you listed in regards to the benefits can still be attained through eating a largely nutrient dense diet, but still eating other "not so healthy" foods in moderation.
Basically what it boils down to is that you're an elitist clean eater with a closed diary and no pictures.
That, or a really good troll.
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.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.0 -
I'll take "pics or it didn't happen" for $200, Alex.0
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.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.
You're right. I don't log calories. A friend asked me once and I was curious so I took an average day and logged. 4000 is what it came to.. and that was conservative....
I know what medical issues are serious and what aren't. That's based on experience with my patients.0 -
.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.
You're right. I don't log calories. A friend asked me once and I was curious so I took an average day and logged. 4000 is what it came to.. and that was conservative....
I know what medical issues are serious and what aren't. That's based on experience with my patients.
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LolBroScience wrote: »
.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.
You're right. I don't log calories. A friend asked me once and I was curious so I took an average day and logged. 4000 is what it came to.. and that was conservative....
I know what medical issues are serious and what aren't. That's based on experience with my patients.
lol.
ticklish?0 -
just what I needed, a little entertainment on my birthday
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LolBroScience wrote: »
.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.
You're right. I don't log calories. A friend asked me once and I was curious so I took an average day and logged. 4000 is what it came to.. and that was conservative....
I know what medical issues are serious and what aren't. That's based on experience with my patients.
lol.
ticklish?
Not normally.
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.LolBroScience wrote: »LolBroScience wrote: »jasonmh630 wrote: »soda. anything with high fructose corn syrup. any of that packaged crap like Hostess and Little Debbie stuff. those things hardly count as food anyway. eat real food. chocolate chip cookies you baked yourself are so much better for you than all the chemicals and preservatives in Chips Ahoy for example. and fast food. more fat than food.
Good... More little debbie cakes for us.
Seriously, it's all "real food" whether you agree with it our not. Everything in moderation. Plenty of people with healthy lifestyles that are on here would agree with that.
The entertainment value of this website is outstanding.
Because people preach eating foods in moderation?
Yes
You're right. Creating disordered eating habits is way healthier than eating certain foods in moderation.
I forgot you get extra credit for eating extra "clean" and "healthy" food as opposed to looking at overall diet and adherence.
Please talk to me when you require 3600 calories to maintain weight. Ever try eating 3600 calories of nutrient dense, "clean foods" and an everyday basis?
Oh yeah.. hahahah Orthorexia nervosa!!! hahahha I'm actually laughing out loud. This eating disorder is terrible and serious!!!! All this amazing weight control and delicious food and eating until I'm full and wonderful muscle mass and never spending a minute logging calories or weighting food and having immaculate maintenance of lipid profile and amazing mood and killer sex drive and no cravings and no sugar crashes and complete resolution of digestion problems and control of autoimmune disease and prevention of diabetes is just unhealthy!!!!!! I'm so miserable and unhappy while suffering from this eating disorder!!!
I'm sure they will come up with disorders for people who have healthy control of their finances and disorders for people seeking education or developing skills in life. What terrible suffering.
Actually you are right. I don't eat 3600 cal nutrient dense clean foods on an every day basis.
I eat 4000+ cals of nutrient dense clean food on an every day basis.
You're right, I have no adherence. I've only been doing it for 2 years straight. Real adherence must be doing it for 40 years straight. I'll talk to you then.
You don't log calories at all, but you seem 100% certain you eat 4000 calories. You are lying about one or the other.
Orthorexia nervosa is a serious issue and not a laughing matter.
You're right. I don't log calories. A friend asked me once and I was curious so I took an average day and logged. 4000 is what it came to.. and that was conservative....
I know what medical issues are serious and what aren't. That's based on experience with my patients.
Pictures and a diary to go with these claims would be nice
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LolBroScience wrote: »
I am 5'10", 182lbs at around 10-12% bodyfat. I am maintaining on at or around 2850 calories per day. I am heading into a bulk phase where I expect to eat at or around 3000 calories per day. There is no shot she is eating 4000+ calories per day. Sorry... no shot. But I'm guessing you came to that conclusion as well...
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Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.0 -
Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.
You're living in fantasy land...
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Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.
You're living in fantasy land...
Life is so good is sure feels like it somedays.0 -
Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.
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Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.
You're living in fantasy land...
Life is so good is sure feels like it somedays.
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Right!!! Because if I was a food-logger and you could all see, you would all jump on the paleo/primal bandwagon right??? Ya.
Sorry, I really don't care about convincing the masses on this forum with blinders on.
I get plenty of private messages asking me to elaborate based on my posts. Which is exactly what I want - because my time and energy is much better spent educating those who are willing to listen rather than cover their ears.
You're living in fantasy land...
Life is so good is sure feels like it somedays.
Lol! You are funny, I'll give you that. Completely full of it but funny none the less...
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