Breakfast or no?
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So I'm a college student (enough said). I'm living just off campus and it's always late nights studying it seems for me. I started out the year eating breakfast (special K cereal) but then it slowly got pushed out of my morning schedule. I shower in the morning and sometimes make lunch and stuff and it seems like I'm always rushing out the door to work or class. I've heard that breakfast helps boost metabolism. I could wake up ten minutes earlier to fit it in but is it really that important? Thoughts?
I don't eat breakfast....doing so over a year now.
Been fine
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jamieben1824 wrote: »Thank you! geeeezz... Eating breakfast is smart. Its a proven fact that it reduces your chances of overeating throughout the remainder of the day or at night when you are more sedentary. Test the theory..
I don't know that is true.....
I test it every day....on my workout days, after I lift, I eat big that first meal....1000+ calories....
On days I don't lift.....then when I do eat, it is not as much....
Your body gets used to an eating pattern.....
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jamieben1824 wrote: »Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
Thank you! geeeezz... Eating breakfast is smart. Its a proven fact that it reduces your chances of overeating throughout the remainder of the day or at night when you are more sedentary. Test the theory. if you are famished by noon or early afternoon then you will gorge yourself and most likely eat more calories than you would have had you eaten a healthful, reasonably sized breakfast. I understand crazy schedules, and that can be an exception to how and when you eat, but really it IS all about what you chose. Nothing particular should be eliminated but better choices (healthier and smaller portions of food several times a day) is ulimately the BEST thing you can do for your body to maintain a healthy weight. Period.
I agree that breakfast helps some people to not overeat throughout the day. But it's not a proven fact for everyone. In fact, breakfast makes some people hungrier and more prone to overeat through the day. It's personal preference to eat it or skip it.
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@jamieben1824
Oryl? Cite an academic study proving that please.0 -
Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?0 -
jamieben1824 wrote: »Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
Thank you! geeeezz... Eating breakfast is smart. Its a proven fact that it reduces your chances of overeating throughout the remainder of the day or at night when you are more sedentary. Test the theory. if you are famished by noon or early afternoon then you will gorge yourself and most likely eat more calories than you would have had you eaten a healthful, reasonably sized breakfast. I understand crazy schedules, and that can be an exception to how and when you eat, but really it IS all about what you chose. Nothing particular should be eliminated but better choices (healthier and smaller portions of food several times a day) is ulimately the BEST thing you can do for your body to maintain a healthy weight. Period.
I used to skip breakfast all the time when I did intermittent fasting (IF) and I never had any issues with over eating...
so my n=1 trumps your n=1; therefore, this is not a "proven" fact...0 -
jamieben1824 wrote: »Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
Thank you! geeeezz... Eating breakfast is smart. Its a proven fact that it reduces your chances of overeating throughout the remainder of the day or at night when you are more sedentary. Test the theory. if you are famished by noon or early afternoon then you will gorge yourself and most likely eat more calories than you would have had you eaten a healthful, reasonably sized breakfast. I understand crazy schedules, and that can be an exception to how and when you eat, but really it IS all about what you chose. Nothing particular should be eliminated but better choices (healthier and smaller portions of food several times a day) is ulimately the BEST thing you can do for your body to maintain a healthy weight. Period.
While that may be the case for some people (i.e. me), meal timing and frequency is still a personal preference. There are people who eat in the morning and it opens up a bottomless pit. In fact, my breakfast was still over 500 calories this morning, and it's enough to keep me satisfied until around 2:30 when I get home and can eat lunch.0 -
I don't understand why some people think there has to be a universal answer to every question. If you prefer to eat breakfast, do it. If you find it helps you to skip it, skip it. Worry about what works for you, rather than what works for other people.0
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You implied it. If that's what you wanted to do. Great, if you didn't want to do that. Knock it off.Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
I've seen a few of your posts today where you implied something, got called it, and responded like that. You might want to be more specific about what you say if people are consistently "misunderstanding" you in similar manners.
Oh what a load of old cobblers. Apologies if you cant differentiate between 'Skip the burger' and 'Burgers are bad'. I suggest that is your lack of understanding rather than me implying something. What would be the point of me writing anything if I didnt put that part of the post.
It is perfectly comprehensible within the context of a conversation about whether one should skip breakfast to lower calorie intake, to actually recommend skipping something else that has more calories. Nowhere did I say cut out the burger or you will have a heart attack or something on similar lines. I think that you just made that up.-2 -
I don't understand why some people think there has to be a universal answer to every question. If you prefer to eat breakfast, do it. If you find it helps you to skip it, skip it. Worry about what works for you, rather than what works for other people.
No one is looking for universal. You know that.
I think some of us are pushing for logical, rational, and reasonable.
High standards for MFP, I know. However, it is a good fight to fight.0 -
I never skip breakfast – I notice a significant difference in my energy level when I don’t eat it or have something that lacks substance. Not metabolism, energy level.
And I really don’t see the point in walking around with an empty stomach all morning, especially when I do an early workout and am “starving” afterwards, but to each his own…
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Some of us work out fasted, and some of us (like me) perform better fasted, and our energy levels are higher in general than normally when "well" fed.
It's not an either or.0 -
Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?
Dunno mate. To help lose weight.... if that's what you are trying to do?.....
Why do you get out of bed if you have somewhere to go that day?-1 -
Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?
Dunno mate. To help lose weight.... if that's what you are trying to do?.....
Why do you get out of bed if you have somewhere to go that day?
If it fits into your calories for the day and you're eating at a deficit, you will lose weight. Regardless of whether you have a burger or not.
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jasonmh630 wrote: »Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?
Dunno mate. To help lose weight.... if that's what you are trying to do?.....
Why do you get out of bed if you have somewhere to go that day?
If it fits into your calories for the day and you're eating at a deficit, you will lose weight. Regardless of whether you have a burger or not.
I do know this stuff my friend, but if one is considering skipping a light breakfast to maintain calorie deficit that it would be safe to assume not.
Did anybody actually read anything towards the beginning of this thread or just spot the work burger and get overly excited?-1 -
I don't understand why some people think there has to be a universal answer to every question. If you prefer to eat breakfast, do it. If you find it helps you to skip it, skip it. Worry about what works for you, rather than what works for other people.
No one is looking for universal. You know that.
I think some of us are pushing for logical, rational, and reasonable.
High standards for MFP, I know. However, it is a good fight to fight.
I think some people are looking for universal or think they've already found it. Anyone who saysEating breakfast is smart. Its a proven fact that it reduces your chances of overeating
obviously thinks there's a universal answer to the question "should you eat breakfast?" I'd disagree, but that doesn't stop people from thinking their answer applies to other people. It'd be fine if people said "here's what works for me", but that's not how people present it and the implication from saying "Eating breakfast is smart" is pretty clear. But yes, logical, rational and reasonable would be nice.0 -
jasonmh630 wrote: »Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?
Dunno mate. To help lose weight.... if that's what you are trying to do?.....
Why do you get out of bed if you have somewhere to go that day?
If it fits into your calories for the day and you're eating at a deficit, you will lose weight. Regardless of whether you have a burger or not.
I do know this stuff my friend, but if one is considering skipping a light breakfast to maintain calorie deficit that it would be safe to assume not.
Did anybody actually read anything towards the beginning of this thread or just spot the work burger and get overly excited?
Yes, I did read it. I didn't have any real objections to anything you said, sir. It's just the phrase "skip the burger" does imply that they are bad. Some people (like me) inferred that from the statement you made. Not saying that all will, but that's what the majority here seem to think. It just comes off that way, even if that's not what you meant by the comment.
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Breakfast is the most important meal of the day! It helps "break the fast" of sleeping for hours and hours. I find an overall improvement in my mood when I eat breakfast. That in my opinion is a more important reason to eat it than any "boost in metabolism".0
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rkalllison wrote: »Breakfast is the most important meal of the day! It helps "break the fast" of sleeping for hours and hours. I find an overall improvement in my mood when I eat breakfast. That in my opinion is a more important reason to eat it than any "boost in metabolism".
um...exactly who says its the most important meal of the day?
Breakfast cereal companies, mostly.
I agree with the poster above that you should eat breakfast if it increases your mood (along with fitting into your nutrition goals and no negative effects from it, etc), but I don't believe that's a universal. There have been people in this very thread who've said they have the opposite effect after breakfast. I know it's hard for some of us breakfast eaters to believe, but it does make some people sluggish or cranky in the morning. Again, eat it if you want, skip it if you want.
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Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
if a burger is not bad, then why skip it?
Dunno mate. To help lose weight.... if that's what you are trying to do?.....
Why do you get out of bed if you have somewhere to go that day?
so burgers make you gain weight? So if I eat a burger and am in a calorie deficit, I will gain weight, really?
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Breakfast is the most important meal of the day! It helps "break the fast" of sleeping for hours and hours. I find an overall improvement in my mood when I eat breakfast. That in my opinion is a more important reason to eat it than any "boost in metabolism".
this is just 100% wrong...
I would be curious to read the studies backing this up ...0 -
yes breakfast and coffee for me daily
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I see everyone else so far has been giving opinions & arguing.
How about some facts, research, etc.?
Yes, breakfast is associated with weight loss.
And studies support having a large breakfast being associated with more weight loss than the typical US pattern of small breakfast, large dinner.
"Breakfast is associated with lower body weight ... "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24898236
This study compared eating a small breakfast, medium lunch, and large dinner, [200, 500, 700 cal]
with eating a large breakfast, medium lunch, and small dinner [700, 500, 200 cal].
"The [large breakfast] group showed greater weight loss and waist circumference reduction ... fasting glucose, insulin [&] triglycerides ... decreased significantly to a greater extent in the [large breakfast] group."
In addition, hunger was less and satiety was greater.
Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23512957
Full text:
http://genetics.doctorsonly.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jakubowicz-at-al-Obesity-2013-oby20460.pdf
"subjects assigned to high caloric intake during breakfast lost significantly more weight than those assigned to high caloric intake during the dinner"
Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24467926
Full text: http://www.tradewindsports.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Nutrient-Timing-and-Obesity-2014.pdf
"data suggest that a low-calorie Mediterranean diet with a higher amount of calories in the first part of the day could establish a greater reduction in fat mass and improved insulin sensitivity than a typical daily diet."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24809437
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Ah yes, metabolism, the most overrated excuse/phenomenon is the non-weight loss world.
Funny how many people think that skipping breakfast is the solution. How about just skipping that huge burger you are looking to have instead at dinner time? I am sure that will help your metabolic rate.
how about just eat in a deficit and forget about meal timing all together?
let me guess burgers are 'bad'…????
Nowhere in my post did I say that.
There are however, plenty of people who think skipping breakfast helps. Funny how they dont suggest skipping a meal which tends to be much more calorific.
the why did you say "skip the burger"....I can fit a burger into my daily calorie allowance and macro target, what is wrong with that?
Show me a piece by which in general speech, saying 'Skip the burger' equates to 'Burgers are bad', and I will rest my case. Use common sense.
Moral of the story - if the poster is trying to look at avoiding more food to lose weight then much better to cut down on a highly calorific food than a bit of breakfast. Glory be.
Nowhere did she say she was looking to avoid eating breakfast to lose weight, what the OP said was there was no time in the morning to eat breakfast and was wondering if it was ok to skip it.
And OP breakfast is a personal choice if you want to eat it or not, if you can go without breakfast then go without it, it doesn't make any difference if you get your deficit with lunch dinner and snacks or with breakfast included.0 -
obviously thinks there's a universal answer to the question "should you eat breakfast?" I'd disagree, but that doesn't stop people from thinking their answer applies to other people. It'd be fine if people said "here's what works for me", but that's not how people present it and the implication from saying "Eating breakfast is smart" is pretty clear. But yes, logical, rational and reasonable would be nice.
That person disappeared as soon as I asked for an academic study showing that. They were talking out of their chocolate starfish.
In other news, I just had granola for breakfast, and I'm super aggro right now. My all two small portion was actually TWO servings.0 -
rkalllison wrote: »Breakfast is the most important meal of the day! It helps "break the fast" of sleeping for hours and hours. I find an overall improvement in my mood when I eat breakfast. That in my opinion is a more important reason to eat it than any "boost in metabolism".
um...exactly who says its the most important meal of the day?
erin does, therefore n=1, it is! lol. I kid.0 -
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I don't know how you are, but... I get super aggro if I eat breakfast. Unless it's pancakes. Then I'm all huggy awesome and loving everyone.
Breakfast = Aggro.
Ahhh, I need to try pancakes for breakfast and see if I become more huggy awesome and loving everyone! Mostly I hate life and the entire world in the morning, mornings are not my friend.0 -
I see everyone else so far has been giving opinions & arguing.
How about some facts, research, etc.?
Yes, breakfast is associated with weight loss.
And studies support having a large breakfast being associated with more weight loss than the typical US pattern of small breakfast, large dinner.
"Breakfast is associated with lower body weight ... "
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24898236
This study compared eating a small breakfast, medium lunch, and large dinner, [200, 500, 700 cal]
with eating a large breakfast, medium lunch, and small dinner [700, 500, 200 cal].
"The [large breakfast] group showed greater weight loss and waist circumference reduction ... fasting glucose, insulin [&] triglycerides ... decreased significantly to a greater extent in the [large breakfast] group."
In addition, hunger was less and satiety was greater.
Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/23512957
Full text:
http://genetics.doctorsonly.co.il/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/Jakubowicz-at-al-Obesity-2013-oby20460.pdf
"subjects assigned to high caloric intake during breakfast lost significantly more weight than those assigned to high caloric intake during the dinner"
Abstract: http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24467926
Full text: http://www.tradewindsports.net/wp-content/uploads/2014/03/Nutrient-Timing-and-Obesity-2014.pdf
"data suggest that a low-calorie Mediterranean diet with a higher amount of calories in the first part of the day could establish a greater reduction in fat mass and improved insulin sensitivity than a typical daily diet."
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24809437
You realize the very first study you're linking says in the abstract:Conclusions: A recommendation to eat or skip breakfast for weight loss was effective at changing self-reported breakfast eating habits, but contrary to widely espoused views this had no discernable effect on weight loss in free-living adults who were attempting to lose weight.
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