Diet Drinks. Double D's.

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  • tschlach
    tschlach Posts: 33 Member
    edited August 2015
    My opinion. I drink 1 diet Pepsi a day. I have fibromyalgia. I quit drinking the diet soda because I read that it could cause symptoms of fibro, lupus, and other similar conditions. I quit drinking diet soda for quite some time. Symptoms never went away. I started drinking my 1 a day again. Yes they say it can cause cancer but really what doesn't. Everything in moderation is how I look at it.
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  • peter56765
    peter56765 Posts: 352 Member
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  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    edited August 2015
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though
    Scientists at Genentech and City of Hope inserted synthetic genes carrying the genetic code for human insulin, along with the necessary control mechanism, into an E. coli bacterial strain which is a laboratory derivative of a common bacteria found in the human intestine. Once inside the bacteria, the genes were "switched-on" by the bacteria to translate the code into either "A" or "B" protein chains found in insulin. The separate chains were then joined to construct complete insulin molecules.

    It may be done in bacteria, but it's done in a lab with scientists manipulating the bacteria's DNA. It's not something that is naturally occurring.

    http://www.diabeteswellbeing.com/synthetic-insulin/
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though

    So the pharma companies go find bacteria out in the wild and harvest it for insulin (not in a sterile lab)? Is that honestly what you are suggesting?!
  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    FitFroglet wrote: »
    "In 20 minutes: The soda can trigger the production of insulin in your body"
    I wish this were true, I'm a Type 1 diabetic.
    Maybe I'm not drinking enough diet drinks...

    yeah. I am T2Dm and I test often, sometimes just for the curiosity to see what different foods do to my blood sugar. I have seen no rise in my glucose numbers after drinking a diet soda. I tested just before drinking it and every 15 minutes afterwards for an hour. No spike.

    This seems to vary by individual. I have more than a few diabetics in my family. Some of them see a spike with diet drinks and some don't.
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  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?
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  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?

    I would take your sugar before you drink the diet soda, then in ten minute increments for maybe 1/2 hour. so 10 min after, 20 min after and 30 min after. If you have that many test strips.
  • Kexessa
    Kexessa Posts: 346 Member
    From the thread title OP I thought you were going to say drinking diet drinks gave you larger breasts :o
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Azexas wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?

    I would take your sugar before you drink the diet soda, then in ten minute increments for maybe 1/2 hour. so 10 min after, 20 min after and 30 min after. If you have that many test strips.

    I am going to do that. I just ate though so I will wait a little while.
  • daniwilford
    daniwilford Posts: 1,030 Member
    edited August 2015
    50sFit wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    50sFit wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    50sFit wrote: »
    Most of these drinks are laced with chemicals galore as well as caffeine.

    Everything we eat is made up of chemicals....everything.
    Then you can go ahead and eat everything....everything... o:)

    I do, except beets. The chemicals they are loaded with makes them taste disgusting.
    Try mixing beets with better chemicals to improve the flavor.
    Seriously, I juice beets with a bunch of other stuff to hide their loathsomeness...
    Why bother? There is nothing essential that only comes from beets.
    I have never heard any definitive study that says that links artificial sweeteners with an ailment other than the rare allergy.
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?

    I would take your sugar before you drink the diet soda, then in ten minute increments for maybe 1/2 hour. so 10 min after, 20 min after and 30 min after. If you have that many test strips.

    I am going to do that. I just ate though so I will wait a little while.

    I'm curious to see what the results will be
  • mantium999
    mantium999 Posts: 1,490 Member
    Azexas wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?

    I would take your sugar before you drink the diet soda, then in ten minute increments for maybe 1/2 hour. so 10 min after, 20 min after and 30 min after. If you have that many test strips.

    I am going to do that. I just ate though so I will wait a little while.

    I'm curious to see what the results will be

    Ditto. Willing to self-experiment is awesome.
  • happyfeetrebel1
    happyfeetrebel1 Posts: 1,005 Member
    rebeccahunt718 wrote: »
    I drink a lot of diet Dr. Pepper or other diet sodas when that isn't available and diet teas. It's the sodium content that is bad.

    Not really. It's a myth that soda is high in sodium. Most of them only have around 100 mg or so!
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  • senecarr
    senecarr Posts: 5,377 Member
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)
    Aspartame, produced in lab, is perfectly safe.
    A Bengal tiger is produced in nature, I prefer to avoid it and would much rather be around aspartame.
  • peter56765
    peter56765 Posts: 352 Member
    I have consumed diet soda for 30+ years and the side effects so far have been ... nothing. No headaches, cancers, dizziness, nausea, cravings, alien visitations, nothing. The occasional burp I suppose, but really nothing noteworthy.

    I drank diet soda when I was fat. I drank it when I was skinny. I drank it while losing weight. I drank it when I was gaining weight too. I would love to have some demon food to point at and blame for my weight but the honest truth is that I just simply ate too much. Now that I'm at my maintenance weight, I find I can still enjoy diet soda and not have to worry about the calories. That's a net positive in my book.

    I have no studies to point at, but I would wager that my experience with diet soda is by far the most common one.
  • Hornsby
    Hornsby Posts: 10,322 Member
    Okay, so that didn't do much for me...

    I ate at 1pm (pork quesadillas, white rice, pinto beans).

    1:35pm - Blood Sugar - 126
    Drank Diet Dr. Pepper from 1:35 and finished at 1:53pm (20oz)
    Blood Sugar at 2:17pm - 96
    Blood Sugar at 2:43pm - 106

    Means nothing but was fun to do. Ran out of test strips at work though so that's all I could do.
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited August 2015
    Hornsby wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Hornsby wrote: »
    I want to test this out. I have a blood sugar tester. What do I do? Just drink the soda and check my blood sugar 30 minutes later?

    I would take your sugar before you drink the diet soda, then in ten minute increments for maybe 1/2 hour. so 10 min after, 20 min after and 30 min after. If you have that many test strips.

    I am going to do that. I just ate though so I will wait a little while.

    When I did it, I waited until a little before I was going to eat dinner. I tested, drank the soda, and tested every 15 minutes for an hour. I saw no spikes in my blood sugar. It actually went down a little, which is normal for me shortly before I eat a meal because it has been a while since I ate my last meal.

  • Need2Exerc1se
    Need2Exerc1se Posts: 13,575 Member
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    Need2Exerc1se wrote: »
    earlnabby wrote: »
    FitFroglet wrote: »
    "In 20 minutes: The soda can trigger the production of insulin in your body"
    I wish this were true, I'm a Type 1 diabetic.
    Maybe I'm not drinking enough diet drinks...

    yeah. I am T2Dm and I test often, sometimes just for the curiosity to see what different foods do to my blood sugar. I have seen no rise in my glucose numbers after drinking a diet soda. I tested just before drinking it and every 15 minutes afterwards for an hour. No spike.

    This seems to vary by individual. I have more than a few diabetics in my family. Some of them see a spike with diet drinks and some don't.

    By what mechanism would diet soda cause a spike in blood glucose?

    I don't know. I just know the little monitor shows it does.
  • auddii
    auddii Posts: 15,357 Member
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    auddii wrote: »
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though

    So the pharma companies go find bacteria out in the wild and harvest it for insulin (not in a sterile lab)? Is that honestly what you are suggesting?!

    Are you some kind of scientist?

    I happen to be a geneticist and have used E. coli for growing recombinant DNA plasmids although I really don't know what that has to do with you being wrong.
  • ldrosophila
    ldrosophila Posts: 7,512 Member
    Azexas wrote: »
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though
    Scientists at Genentech and City of Hope inserted synthetic genes carrying the genetic code for human insulin, along with the necessary control mechanism, into an E. coli bacterial strain which is a laboratory derivative of a common bacteria found in the human intestine. Once inside the bacteria, the genes were "switched-on" by the bacteria to translate the code into either "A" or "B" protein chains found in insulin. The separate chains were then joined to construct complete insulin molecules.

    It may be done in bacteria, but it's done in a lab with scientists manipulating the bacteria's DNA. It's not something that is naturally occurring.

    http://www.diabeteswellbeing.com/synthetic-insulin/

    OOOOOO insulin is totally GMO

    And this is kind of a dumb question OK it's a dumb question, but isn't tea by it's very own nature diet iced tea?

  • I_Will_End_You
    I_Will_End_You Posts: 4,397 Member
    goosebeartalk wrote: »
    @Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
    Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.

    Oh man this is hilarious!
  • earlnabby
    earlnabby Posts: 8,171 Member
    edited August 2015
    ldrosophila wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though
    Scientists at Genentech and City of Hope inserted synthetic genes carrying the genetic code for human insulin, along with the necessary control mechanism, into an E. coli bacterial strain which is a laboratory derivative of a common bacteria found in the human intestine. Once inside the bacteria, the genes were "switched-on" by the bacteria to translate the code into either "A" or "B" protein chains found in insulin. The separate chains were then joined to construct complete insulin molecules.

    It may be done in bacteria, but it's done in a lab with scientists manipulating the bacteria's DNA. It's not something that is naturally occurring.

    http://www.diabeteswellbeing.com/synthetic-insulin/


    And this is kind of a dumb question OK it's a dumb question, but isn't tea by it's very own nature diet iced tea?

    No! Tea, whether iced or hot, is the same beverage with no calories. If you are from the southern US, you may think of iced tea as "sweet tea" but most in other parts of the country do not drink it that way.

  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    ldrosophila wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though
    Scientists at Genentech and City of Hope inserted synthetic genes carrying the genetic code for human insulin, along with the necessary control mechanism, into an E. coli bacterial strain which is a laboratory derivative of a common bacteria found in the human intestine. Once inside the bacteria, the genes were "switched-on" by the bacteria to translate the code into either "A" or "B" protein chains found in insulin. The separate chains were then joined to construct complete insulin molecules.

    It may be done in bacteria, but it's done in a lab with scientists manipulating the bacteria's DNA. It's not something that is naturally occurring.

    http://www.diabeteswellbeing.com/synthetic-insulin/

    OOOOOO insulin is totally GMO

    I see it more as insulin is a byproduct of a GMO since the bacteria is the one being altered ;) Either way it's insulin and it does the job people need it to do. (I'm not against GMO's)
  • WBB55
    WBB55 Posts: 4,131 Member
    earlnabby wrote: »
    ldrosophila wrote: »
    Azexas wrote: »
    Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »
    stevencloser wrote: »
    bclarke1990 wrote: »
    I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. :)

    Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
    Cyanide is produced in nature.

    Insulin is made by bacteria
    Nice try though
    Scientists at Genentech and City of Hope inserted synthetic genes carrying the genetic code for human insulin, along with the necessary control mechanism, into an E. coli bacterial strain which is a laboratory derivative of a common bacteria found in the human intestine. Once inside the bacteria, the genes were "switched-on" by the bacteria to translate the code into either "A" or "B" protein chains found in insulin. The separate chains were then joined to construct complete insulin molecules.

    It may be done in bacteria, but it's done in a lab with scientists manipulating the bacteria's DNA. It's not something that is naturally occurring.

    http://www.diabeteswellbeing.com/synthetic-insulin/


    And this is kind of a dumb question OK it's a dumb question, but isn't tea by it's very own nature diet iced tea?

    No! Tea, whether iced or hot, is the same beverage with no calories. If you are from the southern US, you may think of iced tea as "sweet tea" but most in other parts of the country do not drink it that way.

    Just for the sake of precision, tea has SOME calories. About 2 for 8 oz. of prepared hot tea.
  • Rep4Him
    Rep4Him Posts: 50 Member
    edited August 2015
    Regular soda article..
    https://www.yahoo.com/health/what-one-can-of-coke-does-to-your-body-in-only-one-125354269592.html
  • stevencloser
    stevencloser Posts: 8,911 Member
    edited August 2015
    Rep4Him wrote: »
    Regular soda article..
    https://www.yahoo.com/health/what-one-can-of-coke-does-to-your-body-in-only-one-125354269592.html

    It's a bunch of exaggerated crap.
    The most staggeringly obvious one is the one about caffeine. A can of Coke has one third of the amount of caffeine of an 8oz cup of black coffee, but I don't see them making an "info"graphic about the dangers of having a single cup of coffee.
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