Diet Drinks. Double D's.
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I don't care if people drink it, as long as I don't have to.0
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"In 20 minutes: The soda can trigger the production of insulin in your body"
I wish this were true, I'm a Type 1 diabetic.
Maybe I'm not drinking enough diet drinks...0 -
FatFreeFrolicking wrote: »Artificial sweeteners.
Nothing wrong with those, or diet sodas. It's all about personal preference.0 -
@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.0 -
When I gave up all sugar it included the fake ones too. No science was involved but just seemed logical at the time and still does. Water is the only natural drink I know about.
I do drink coffee and tea but no sweetener of any type. I do put coconut oil and heavy whipping cream into my coffee.0 -
I enjoyed this article, but it doesn't even get into any issues other than bladder infections (briefly) and focuses mainly on cancer risk, not on nutritional response within the body.sheldonklein wrote: »
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Take it however you likegoosebeartalk wrote: »For everyone who didn't like my response, I never said that regular sodas are good for you. But you'll notice that the original poster asked what the potential harm of diet drinks/artificial sweeteners could be. If it's working out for you, great. But this post wasn't "let's defend artificial sweeteners and lambast someone who offers an actual answer to the question asked." At least, that's not what the original post said when I read it.
When you answer questions with quackery, you will get quackery in return. You basically said that people who drink diet soda are going to get diabetes and get fat. How do you think the people that are lean as hell and drink diet soda are giong to take that?0 -
The ADA is the American DIABETES Association.goosebeartalk wrote: »@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.
And here please. http://examine.com/faq/do-artificial-sweeteners-spike-insulin.html
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Try mixing beets with better chemicals to improve the flavor.
I do, except beets. The chemicals they are loaded with makes them taste disgusting.
My family does....just can't cover up that flavor of dirt.
My family is from Eastern Canada. Here they pickle beets. Beets and turnips are about all that they could get to grown in Newfoundland, so they used to grow beets, then chop them up and boil them in vinegar, then bottle them. So basically they just taste like pickles, with only a minor side of dirt.0 -
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goosebeartalk wrote: »@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.
I am not sure you fully understand what insulin is.. your body releases it, every time you eat carbs and protein. Does it cause you to stop burning fat, yes.. but your body will cycle before fat burning and fat storing. Insulin also reduces hunger signals and many other things. Maybe you should read up on insulin. Below is a good start.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=3190 -
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goosebeartalk wrote: »@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.
So you don't know what the ADA is and you have no idea what insulin does in the body? That's basically all you are saying here...0 -
goosebeartalk wrote: »http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/261179.php
Artificial sweeteners cause a spike in blood sugar, as well as an elevated insulin response, which turns off the brain's receptors that tell the body to stop storing fat. This insulin response can lead to diabetes.
STOP DRINKING DIET SODA. Unless, of course, you're trying to get fat and acquire a fun case of diabetes.
That's not accurate. There's no sugar in the soda, and there's no calories. It's 100% impossible for this drink to make you fat.
Besides, what credibility is there in the article, which just links you back to other articles, within that website? Where's the peer reviewed articles to substantiate your claim?goosebeartalk wrote: »@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.
Wow. So, just because your sis-in-law is a geneticist and you have pals in medicine, we are supposed to just believe your claim (see above, it's copied verbatim) that drinking diet soda causes you to get fat and to get diabetes?
Well, you lost me.
Overconsumption of calories makes us fat, and diet soda has no calories.
Also, sugar or insulin spikes do not cause diabetes. Genetics and obesity are big factors. Here is a link on diabetes basics you might want to read. 0 -
Thread was originally from October of 2014?
I summon Examine.com's well sourced article in attack mode:
http://examine.com/faq/is-diet-soda-bad-for-you.html0 -
Aspartame can be a migraine trigger. If that's not a problem for you, then there is likely nothing wrong with them for you. They've been fairly extensively studied.0
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arditarose wrote: »I actually JUST started drinking diet soda. I never drank regular much and definitely not diet. I'm excited about it personally. The diet A&W root beer...yeah.
Favorite diet soda right there, and my husband likes it too. It satisfies cravings for sweets, and since I'm consistently losing weight, it's working out for me. These studies don't generally say that results occur 100% of the time.0 -
goosebeartalk wrote: »For everyone who didn't like my response, I never said that regular sodas are good for you. But you'll notice that the original poster asked what the potential harm of diet drinks/artificial sweeteners could be. If it's working out for you, great. But this post wasn't "let's defend artificial sweeteners and lambast someone who offers an actual answer to the question asked." At least, that's not what the original post said when I read it.
I'm sure they're very interested since they asked a year ago.0 -
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Bronan_The_Brobarian wrote: »goosebeartalk wrote: »For everyone who didn't like my response, I never said that regular sodas are good for you. But you'll notice that the original poster asked what the potential harm of diet drinks/artificial sweeteners could be. If it's working out for you, great. But this post wasn't "let's defend artificial sweeteners and lambast someone who offers an actual answer to the question asked." At least, that's not what the original post said when I read it.
I'm sure they're very interested since they asked a year ago.
awww aren't you sweet
You're salty.0 -
goosebeartalk wrote: »@Hornsby and @ninerbuff, just because you don't like the one article I posted, the research isn't quackery. And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake. If you'd like for me to dig up more articles, fun. I'm game. Interesting though that ALL (not some, ALL) of my friends who are registered dietitians caution against diet sodas based on insulin response alone. My sister in law, a geneticist at St Jude Children's Research Hospital, countless friends in medicine (not just "personal trainers who have studied nutrition and kinesiology") say the same thing.
Again, if it's working for you, have fun. But don't act like the evidence isn't there just because you don't like it.
I am not sure you fully understand what insulin is.. your body releases it, every time you eat carbs and protein. Does it cause you to stop burning fat, yes.. but your body will cycle before fat burning and fat storing. Insulin also reduces hunger signals and many other things. Maybe you should read up on insulin. Below is a good start.
http://weightology.net/weightologyweekly/?page_id=319
I was just getting ready to post that.
To the thread in general on the subject of insulin, "fat storage mode" as something that exists as a thing unto itself on a permanent level outside of energy balance doesn't exist. Insulin and how it works, with all the press out there from various sources, is totally misunderstood.
If you're eating too many calories, you'll gain weight, whether you're drinking diet soda or not.
If you're not eating too many calories, you won't gain weight, even if you're drinking diet soda.
This has nothing to do with insulin.
I'm going to go have some diet Dr. Pepper. I've lost a total of almost 60 pounds, 55 here on MFP. I think I've got a handle on this thing.
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Revives an old thread, goes on rampage calling others fools while looking foolish themselves. Well done goose!!!0
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I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not. 0
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bclarke1990 wrote: »I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not.
Do people typically need much justification for non-harmful pleasures?0 -
bclarke1990 wrote: »I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not.
Notice a difference in what?0 -
paperpudding wrote: »rebeccahunt718 wrote: »I drink a lot of diet Dr. Pepper or other diet sodas when that isn't available and diet teas. It's the sodium content that is bad.
This is a myth. The sodium contents of diet sodas are no different to regular sodas and neither are much different to most other drinks, including tap water.
You can actually get as much sodium in your tap water if you use a water softener than you would get in most sodas, diet or otherwise. The obvious difference is "mixers" like club soda and tonic water.
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FitFroglet wrote: »"In 20 minutes: The soda can trigger the production of insulin in your body"
I wish this were true, I'm a Type 1 diabetic.
Maybe I'm not drinking enough diet drinks...
yeah. I am T2Dm and I test often, sometimes just for the curiosity to see what different foods do to my blood sugar. I have seen no rise in my glucose numbers after drinking a diet soda. I tested just before drinking it and every 15 minutes afterwards for an hour. No spike.
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goosebeartalk wrote: »@And I have no idea what the ADA has to do with knowledge of the effects of artificial sweeteners on any part of the body except teeth. We weren't talking about teeth. This isn't "my dental pal" for god's sake.
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bclarke1990 wrote: »I would personally rather put water in my body or eat a hydrating fruit than drink a bottle full of carbonated chemicals. In the long run you probably won't notice much of a difference, but if I can avoid things produced in a lab in favor of things produced in nature, why not.
Insulin for diabetics is produced in a lab.
Cyanide is produced in nature.0
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