Gaining muscle
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Then don't.
You guys and your logic. Don't you see your advice doesn't seem to matter. It's the old close your eyes, cover your ears when you don't hear what you want.personally, I would rather be shredded and strong, than strong and obese, but that is just me...
No one carries 300 lbs well unless you're 6'6".
Because I want to know if I can lose the weight AND MAINTAIN MY STRENGTH. So far everyone is saying it's not possible, which is FINE but it also leads me to QUESTION MY GOALS.
Goddammit MFP could ya'll be a little less confrontational?-2 -
Except Ronnie Coleman. He's like 5'10" and carries 300 pounds like a champThen don't.
You guys and your logic. Don't you see your advice doesn't seem to matter. It's the old close your eyes, cover your ears when you don't hear what you want.personally, I would rather be shredded and strong, than strong and obese, but that is just me...
No one carries 300 lbs well unless you're 6'6".
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Yeah, I am just going to find a PT who has actual knowledge and MFP can slag off.-1
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Amazing how the bullies just happen to be on every thread. No lives beyond MFP?-1
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LOL what a thread.0
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As I said, I will never start a thread in here again.0
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Well it is because you want your goals to happen and it just won't happen that way. LBM will decrease when you are in a calorie deficit. You weight train to not lose as much LBM.0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »Well it is because you want your goals to happen and it just won't happen that way. LBM will decrease when you are in a calorie deficit. You weight train to not lose as much LBM.
Let it go, nothing to be gained here.
Besides, in more important news, I think my LP has stalled.
I'm sitting at a 225 bench for 4, can't get that 5th one.0 -
OP - no one is bullying you ....we are just telling you that it is physically impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time..its called science, math, and physics...0
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OP - no one is bullying you ....we are just telling you that it is physically impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time..its called science, math, and physics...
I am not opposed to that truth. But it does become bullying when people overreact to me saying I might want to stay heavier in order to maintain the strength AND questioning my strength/motives in the first place. My god, have none of you mastered reading comprehension yet? I don't care if it's an absolute fecking truth that I would lose muscle along with fat. I am not arguing it, but rather ASKING YOU GUYS HOW TO LOSE THE FAT AND MAINTAIN THE STRENGTH. It appears as though nobody has an answer to that.-3 -
If it's totally impossible, fine. I will stay fat.0
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Yoyo, remember that guy who used to pop up with the TNation stuff? It was also a whole gain muscle/lose fat debate. I remember that guy, you remember that guy?yopeeps025 wrote: »Well it is because you want your goals to happen and it just won't happen that way. LBM will decrease when you are in a calorie deficit. You weight train to not lose as much LBM.
Yoyo, remember that guy who used to pop up with the TNation stuff? It was also a whole gain muscle/lose fat debate. I remember that guy, you remember that guy?yopeeps025 wrote: »Well it is because you want your goals to happen and it just won't happen that way. LBM will decrease when you are in a calorie deficit. You weight train to not lose as much LBM.
I also remember talking about calorie cycle and getting result on my bod pod saying I gain 2 pounds of LBM with a 11 pound fat loss in 5 months though. I don't count calories though. If I did I would of been able to have a bigger range.
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Is it impossible for a 160/180 pound woman to squat 300? I doubt it's impossible but the men seem to think so.-2
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OP - no one is bullying you ....we are just telling you that it is physically impossible to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time..its called science, math, and physics...
I am not opposed to that truth. But it does become bullying when people overreact to me saying I might want to stay heavier in order to maintain the strength AND questioning my strength/motives in the first place. My god, have none of you mastered reading comprehension yet? I don't care if it's an absolute fecking truth that I would lose muscle along with fat. I am not arguing it, but rather ASKING YOU GUYS HOW TO LOSE THE FAT AND MAINTAIN THE STRENGTH. It appears as though nobody has an answer to that.
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.-1 -
I've read a few articles that talk about losing fat while gaining muscle. There is generally some controversy over it. However, here's one article: (I have no idea how accurate this is):
bodybuilding.com/fun/fat_loss_muscle_gain_trick.htm
I can't find it, but I seem to remember there being a study to support it as well, but only for new, obese lifters. Google is your friend.
Now, as far as recomping (maintaining weight while losing fat and gaining muscle), if you trust the BodPod, in the last seven months of lifting heavy and basically maintaining my weight, I have lost 4.3 lbs of fat and gained 1.5 lbs of lean mass.
IMO, you (OP) should just focus on maintaining what muscle mass you have while losing weight. That would mean working your entire body, including legs. I think at 280 lbs, the gain muscle while losing fat point shouldn't be your focus.
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I apologize if I didn't phrase the original question precisely right. I tried to explain how much strength I already possess but people got all weird about it.0
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Ok, I have another question...
if a heavy set person (like me) - were to lift heavy - and, not eat at a deficit. Could I gain muscle weight - and then use the increased muscle % to raise metabolism, and lose fat more easily?
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