Gaining muscle
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I apologize if I didn't phrase the original question precisely right. I tried to explain how much strength I already possess but people got all weird about it.
People got all weird because you started coming up with bizarre reasons why existing scientific data doesn't apply to you.
You can gain strength in a deficit, but you will hit a wall where you are going to need to decide between strength gains and weight loss. It is what it is. At that point you'll have to decide whether you want to increase muscle mass to keep seeing strength gains or stay the same size physically. It is unlikely you're going to be teeny tiny and putting up huge numbers. That's not to say you won't be able to have impressive lifts relative to your size, but if the specific number on the bar means that much to you, you're going to have to focus on that goal and keep your body in a place that accommodates that goal, whether or not it's aesthetically the way you want.0 -
I actually never said anything about it not being true. I said I would RATHER STAY BIG THEN.0
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You can gain strength in a deficit, but you will hit a wall where you are going to need to decide between strength gains and weight loss. It is what it is. At that point you'll have to decide whether you want to increase muscle mass to keep seeing strength gains or stay the same size physically. It is unlikely you're going to be teeny tiny and putting up huge numbers. That's not to say you won't be able to have impressive lifts relative to your size, but if the specific number on the bar means that much to you, you're going to have to focus on that goal and keep your body in a place that accommodates that goal, whether or not it's aesthetically the way you want.
I appreciate THIS, this is far better than the shwag I got before.
Aesthetics aren't anything like my primary focus. I think my strength is my primary focus.-1 -
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
I was asked specifically for that.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.
Nobody suggested that, but if you want to play the off in left field game, go for it. Only makes you look more reasonable.0 -
I apologize if I didn't phrase the original question precisely right. I tried to explain how much strength I already possess but people got all weird about it.
People got all weird because you started coming up with bizarre reasons why existing scientific data doesn't apply to you.
You can gain strength in a deficit, but you will hit a wall where you are going to need to decide between strength gains and weight loss. It is what it is. At that point you'll have to decide whether you want to increase muscle mass to keep seeing strength gains or stay the same size physically. It is unlikely you're going to be teeny tiny and putting up huge numbers. That's not to say you won't be able to have impressive lifts relative to your size, but if the specific number on the bar means that much to you, you're going to have to focus on that goal and keep your body in a place that accommodates that goal, whether or not it's aesthetically the way you want.
Well said.
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I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.-3
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She never did answer that either, just dodged it.yopeeps025 wrote: »
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OP - if you want to maintain your strength and eat in a deficit, then yes I believe that is possible. I would suggest calculating a 250 per day calorie deficit and keep your lifting regimen exactly as it is. this should allow you to lose weight slowly, about .5 pound per week, and it should not sacrifice that much strength, or any at all. If you find that you do lose some strength then increase your calories by 50 to 100 a day and see how it goes...0
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.
Nobody suggested that, but if you want to play the off in left field game, go for it. Only makes you look more reasonable.
Here is what I asked:
Can I lose the fat and still keep the muscle - or gain muscle.
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Everybody - NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Well, that's a somewhat short-sighted answer, isn't it? We know that many women at smaller weights are extraordinarily strong. It's not like it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to get there, but the route may be circuitous at best.0 -
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OP - if you want to maintain your strength and eat in a deficit, then yes I believe that is possible. I would suggest calculating a 250 per day calorie deficit and keep your lifting regimen exactly as it is. this should allow you to lose weight slowly, about .5 pound per week, and it should not sacrifice that much strength, or any at all. If you find that you do lose some strength then increase your calories by 50 to 100 a day and see how it goes...
Thank you.0 -
I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.
your original post said you wanted to build muscle and lose fat ..it was not until like page two that you clarified you meant maintain strength and lose fat...
so while some may need reading comprehension, others may need writing comprehension...0 -
If that's what you understood, then you might want to go read it again, and think about why that's what you projected into what you read.yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.
Nobody suggested that, but if you want to play the off in left field game, go for it. Only makes you look more reasonable.
Here is what I asked:
Can I lose the fat and still keep the muscle - or gain muscle.
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Everybody - NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Well, that's a somewhat short-sighted answer, isn't it? We know that many women at smaller weights are extraordinarily strong. It's not like it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to get there, but the route may be circuitous at best.
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yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.
Nobody suggested that, but if you want to play the off in left field game, go for it. Only makes you look more reasonable.
Here is what I asked:
Can I lose the fat and still keep the muscle - or gain muscle.
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Everybody - NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Well, that's a somewhat short-sighted answer, isn't it? We know that many women at smaller weights are extraordinarily strong. It's not like it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to get there, but the route may be circuitous at best.
you are confusing muscle with strength...they are not the same...0 -
I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.
your original post said you wanted to build muscle and lose fat ..it was not until like page two that you clarified you meant maintain strength and lose fat...
so while some may need reading comprehension, others may need writing comprehension...
I already apologized for misleading the peanut gallery.-2 -
I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.
your original post said you wanted to build muscle and lose fat ..it was not until like page two that you clarified you meant maintain strength and lose fat...
so while some may need reading comprehension, others may need writing comprehension...
I already apologized for misleading the peanut gallery.
So polite, I'm amazed more aren't lining up to help you with commentary like that.0 -
yopeeps025 wrote: »
I will guess you mean maintain mass because plenty of people increase in strength on a deficit.
At least in my legs.
I am also not opposed to the idea of losing the fat and then regaining the strength if I need to do it that way. But damn, it sounds an awful lot like men are suggesting women just can't possibly be smaller and strong.
Nobody suggested that, but if you want to play the off in left field game, go for it. Only makes you look more reasonable.
Here is what I asked:
Can I lose the fat and still keep the muscle - or gain muscle.
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Everybody - NO THAT'S IMPOSSIBLE.
Well, that's a somewhat short-sighted answer, isn't it? We know that many women at smaller weights are extraordinarily strong. It's not like it would be IMPOSSIBLE for me to get there, but the route may be circuitous at best.
you are confusing muscle with strength...they are not the same...
You may well be right. I would appreciate people sharing their knowledge on the differences. It is my strength that I value.0 -
I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.
your original post said you wanted to build muscle and lose fat ..it was not until like page two that you clarified you meant maintain strength and lose fat...
so while some may need reading comprehension, others may need writing comprehension...
I already apologized for misleading the peanut gallery.
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I think some people are both cognitively challenged along with being just generally mean. I don't give a crumb if losing the fat means I automatically become less strong - it would be MY CHOICE then to maintain the muscle OVER WEIGHT LOSS. Derpy der kids, try and keep up.
your original post said you wanted to build muscle and lose fat ..it was not until like page two that you clarified you meant maintain strength and lose fat...
so while some may need reading comprehension, others may need writing comprehension...
I already apologized for misleading the peanut gallery.
So polite, I'm amazed more aren't lining up to help you with commentary like that.
Oh my goodness, if you don't like it then use all your thinky skills to navigate away.-1 -
I never claimed to be especially educated on this topic, folks.0
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OP, are you actually a new lifter? How long have you been lifting?0
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No one said it can't be done, but is that you? Because the person in that video looks very well trained.
Oh, wait, this is the OP?
I don't see 280 pounds on that frame.0 -
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