Serious Question for MILFS (pics)
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or leashes
Actually not true. Well, maybe sort of. My mom used a leash on my brother, he was a runner. He was born in 1962, so technically it was the 60s when she used a leash on him.0 -
Lol the whole MILF thing was why I didn't open this thread sooner.
As for the OP's question, that's why I have a dog - no one frowns on leashing them. And IMO, most children belong on a leash too, parents these days just don't seem to have them under control. Nor do they keep an eye out for where their offspring is. Seriously, the other day a kid was stalking me and my rescue dog, and no parent was in sight. I nearly had to pick my 80lb dog up, to make sure the kid wouldn't get himself hurt by the 'doggie'.0 -
I used one on my son but not my daughter. He was a bolter and very curious no fear.
I got tons of dirty looks but i didn't care, i'd rather walk safely with my child than have to go to baby funeral because he got out of sight for 10 seconds.
For those who say we grew up without them and survived. yes we did however cities are a hell of alot more busy and people are in a bigger hurry. With texting and driving, drinking and driving, and just general distracted driving I wouldn't take any chance with my child's safety,.0 -
a harness can help at the zoo also0
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You have no kids, right?It is NEVER appropriate to leash your child. They are not dogs! Why don't you just throw them in a kennel and be done with it.
No she doesn't, and according with her profile she is thankful of not having any because she "has not time for that money pit".
In my book, and considering her way of thinking, she is not qualified to give her opinion in this matter, even a hideous one.
I'm a human being and, if I'm not mistaken, so are children. That qualifies me to give an opinion. Human beings should not be leashed.
You seem to be a particularly uninformed and contemptuous human being. Why don't you just leave this up to the people with experience okay?0 -
Lol the whole MILF thing was why I didn't open this thread sooner.
As for the OP's question, that's why I have a dog - no one frowns on leashing them. And IMO, most children belong on a leash too, parents these days just don't seem to have them under control. Nor do they keep an eye out for where their offspring is. Seriously, the other day a kid was stalking me and my rescue dog, and no parent was in sight. I nearly had to pick my 80lb dog up, to make sure the kid wouldn't get himself hurt by the 'doggie'.
You're not allowed to control your children anymore. It's not socially acceptable to spank your kids or put them on a leash so actually, they are your boss and dictate what you can and can't do. That's the family dynamic I see when I go to Wal Mart. Kids kicking and screaming and running around everywhere and the parents aren't "allowed" to do anything about it.
My kids don't behave that way and, if they did, they would get spanked and put on a leash.0 -
Came in expecting MILFs.. left disappointed.0
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Lol the whole MILF thing was why I didn't open this thread sooner.
As for the OP's question, that's why I have a dog - no one frowns on leashing them. And IMO, most children belong on a leash too, parents these days just don't seem to have them under control. Nor do they keep an eye out for where their offspring is. Seriously, the other day a kid was stalking me and my rescue dog, and no parent was in sight. I nearly had to pick my 80lb dog up, to make sure the kid wouldn't get himself hurt by the 'doggie'.
You're not allowed to control your children anymore. It's not socially acceptable to spank your kids or put them on a leash so actually, they are your boss and dictate what you can and can't do. That's the family dynamic I see when I go to Wal Mart. Kids kicking and screaming and running around everywhere and the parents aren't "allowed" to do anything about it.
My kids don't behave that way and, if they did, they would get spanked and put on a leash.
^^ My Hero^^ and to the one above him, you shouldn't have to worry about the service dog. I say let him do his job and protect you if her feels you are in danger. Seriously. As a parent of 5 it is hard to keep them all headed in the same direction and every child to parent ratio is different. I never personally harnessed any of mine and initially felt the negative thoughts of it until I realized how many out of freaking control kids there are these days. Parents don't pay attention to their kids and when the kid does something wrong that the parent could have prevented by paying attention they call a lawyer. It's wrong! If you have too many kids to be able to keep an eye on or keep up with them all, get a leash, a friend, or a nanny! Whatever YOU need to do to keep YOUR kids safe. Allowing bad behavior and then blaming someone else for a misfortune is, in my opinion, the type of behavior seen when people expect everything for nothing.0 -
I have much younger brothers, we all grew up in the UK and around the time that they were toddlers this happened: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_James_Bulger
In the UK at the time it wasn't unusual to use reigns on children and this enforced their use for many parents.
IMO, I don't care what you think of me, if reigns keep my child safe from being snatched then I will look like a "bad mother" and keep them leashed up. I'd rather be the mother who kept control of her child and still had him to tuck in at night than the mother who regrets not keeping a closer hold of my child visiting his grave or wondering where he is because someone snatched him.
I grew up with reigns as the norm so maybe part of my acceptance is that it was culturally accepted and encouraged. In the US I have noticed a considerable amount of disdain over the use of reigns but as far as I know, in Europe they are still widely used.0 -
Okay, first of all, the amount of spelling and grammatical errors in your post makes it very hard to read.
I bolded the first part of my statement, and you still missed it.... I said that I wasn't saying my statement was about your children, just that age doesn't mean someone isn't a brat. That's a general statement because you used their ages to say that they weren't.
I don't know your children so I'm not saying this is or isn't true for them, but age doesn't necessarily mean someone isn't a brat. My boyfriend is a huge brat most of the time, and he's almost 26. Giving someone's age isn't a reasoning for why they are not a brat.They are not brats they are 26 and 24.
I know what you are getting at, but they are seriously not brats, they are adults living with their boyfriends, both have responsible jobs and are unselfish and hardworking.
Regarding keeping them in control when little, at 12 months old, they did not touch either my ornaments or anybody else's when I went to visit people. They were both potty trained by 14 months and were as good as gold.
No, my daughters are not brats. This thread really is now getting ridiculous.
You really need to relax. Have a flower and chill. :flowerforyou:
as asked earlier, could you then please inform me how somebody would push a pram and hold onto a toddler's hand whilst going to the shops without fear that the kiddie will suddenly pull away and run int the road before the mother coiuld leave the pram whilst sticking the brake on so it didn't roll down the hill and into oncoming traffic and then manage to get the toddler back to safety?
I know yu were talaking about my own daughters in particular, but you were addressing my posting, therefore I answered you and I was not rude.
and I am chilled
Second, why are you directing that question at me? This conversation we're having has nothing to do with that; it's solely about ages of people who are or aren't brats.
Third, I never said you were rude. I said that you need to relax. You keep angrily posting the same **** on this board and acting very mad if/when someone disagrees with you. That's why you need to relax. I'm not judging those who use child leashes just because I wouldn't want to, and there's no reason to judge those who simply disagree with the idea without being rude.
I'm not even going to bother trying to talk to you anymore. You're just being ridiculous and reading/responding to things that I'm not even saying.
I'm amazed this thread hasn't been locked yet with how judgmental and rude people are being.
Why did I aim my reply to you, because I was replying to your posting which was aimed at me, hence why I quoted you, nothing personal or anything.
Secondly my typos were because I typed that reply before I went to work this morning and suddenly realized I was running a tad late and didn't proof-read. Luckily, there were only three typos, otherwise you may have found it nigh-on impossible to reply to me at all! :drinker:
Thirdly, nobody will answer my question and no, I am not mad that they do not agree with me, I just want a quick answer which you nor nobody else can be bothered to answer, hence the going round and round in circles.
Fourthly, please do that - don't talk to me anymore, I am disturbed you are so angry and starting to swear in your reply, hence the stars.
Fifthly, yes, this thread is judgmental.0 -
I'm like a moth to a flame. I just keep coming back, lol.
I know what you mean, it is like a ruddy train-crash lol0 -
My mom had these for my brothers when we went to the state fair, disney world, etc. Both were super hyper ADHD so she had them on one of these, or maybe they were the ones that went around the wrist. Who knows.
I dont see anything wrong with it, your keeping you kid safe? big deal.
HARNESS THE CHILDREN!!!0 -
I purchased one for my 3 year old son. I heard a lot of wanted negative and positive feedback. I only got it b/c we went on vacation and ended up at a huge place that i knew it was going to be hard to keep him near me. without having to put him in a stroller, i used the harness. people gave me odd looks but oh well. it's my child and we both had a great time. its up to you as the parent to decide what is best for your child. i dont compare children to dogs or make those ridiculous comments. if you are a loving parent and want to keep your child safe and you choose to use one, GREAT for you. If you never had to use one and never will, that's fine too!0
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I would rather have a living child who I put a "leash" on than a dead one I didn't. I have never had to use a harness with my children, but if I thought there was even the slightest chance we could get separated or one of them might run off and get hurt, then I would. At the end of the day, who really cares what another parent chooses....it isn't like these harnesses are abusive or anything.0
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I used one on my son but not my daughter. He was a bolter and very curious no fear.
I got tons of dirty looks but i didn't care, i'd rather walk safely with my child than have to go to baby funeral because he got out of sight for 10 seconds.
For those who say we grew up without them and survived. yes we did however cities are a hell of alot more busy and people are in a bigger hurry. With texting and driving, drinking and driving, and just general distracted driving I wouldn't take any chance with my child's safety,.
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My son doesn't "need" one, but he loves his doggy backpack! He wears it around the house all the time and cuddles with it in the car. I don't see any harm in them and I don't understand why some people have such a hard time with them.0
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I didn't need one for my son but I don't judge anyone that uses one. If I have more children I wont completely rule it out. I don't see why other people's parenting preferences matter to anyone else. I do what is best for my family, you should as well.0
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Lol the whole MILF thing was why I didn't open this thread sooner.
As for the OP's question, that's why I have a dog - no one frowns on leashing them. And IMO, most children belong on a leash too, parents these days just don't seem to have them under control. Nor do they keep an eye out for where their offspring is. Seriously, the other day a kid was stalking me and my rescue dog, and no parent was in sight. I nearly had to pick my 80lb dog up, to make sure the kid wouldn't get himself hurt by the 'doggie'.
You're not allowed to control your children anymore. It's not socially acceptable to spank your kids or put them on a leash so actually, they are your boss and dictate what you can and can't do. That's the family dynamic I see when I go to Wal Mart. Kids kicking and screaming and running around everywhere and the parents aren't "allowed" to do anything about it.
My kids don't behave that way and, if they did, they would get spanked and put on a leash.
^^ My Hero^^ and to the one above him, you shouldn't have to worry about the service dog. I say let him do his job and protect you if her feels you are in danger. Seriously. As a parent of 5 it is hard to keep them all headed in the same direction and every child to parent ratio is different. I never personally harnessed any of mine and initially felt the negative thoughts of it until I realized how many out of freaking control kids there are these days. Parents don't pay attention to their kids and when the kid does something wrong that the parent could have prevented by paying attention they call a lawyer. It's wrong! If you have too many kids to be able to keep an eye on or keep up with them all, get a leash, a friend, or a nanny! Whatever YOU need to do to keep YOUR kids safe. Allowing bad behavior and then blaming someone else for a misfortune is, in my opinion, the type of behavior seen when people expect everything for nothing.
^^republican
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To the topic though :
My wife used on on my step-son and she loved the thing. Sure, if it was just a trip to the grocery store or something like that, she didn't use the harness, but if they were walking around the County Fair all day, then yes. It was nice because it freed her hands up and it meant that he didn't have to spend the entire day with his hand held above his head. Imagine you're the kid and for about 5 hours you have to have you arm straight up in the air. That would suck.
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Only if they start to act like this
I have a three year old. That's basically what it's like right now.0 -
Just babywear!
This for the win!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
One of my people!
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Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.
I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.0 -
I think every situation is unique you are the parent and know your kids better than anyone. you are an expert on your own children and if you feel they need a restraint to protect them from harm then there is nothing wrong with that. I personally havent had any need for that but like i said every situation and every kid is different.0
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I was led to believe I'd find lots of pictures of MILFs here.0
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Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.
I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.
You had a well worded non confrontational post. I just wanted to share a bit about my son who was a "runner". He is an incredibly independent boy. Holding hands would cause a melt down. Full on screaming. falling to the ground melt down. Consistent time outs did not work, spanking did not work, removal of toys did not work, rewarding good behavior did not work. We were at our wits end. Again, this is my child who could unbuckle and escape strollers, car seats, etc. We were all miserable. I bought the "monkey leash" and he loved it. It allowed him to feel as though he had some freedom and independence while I felt I had some control over his safety. And even when he was on the lead, I still watched him. It gave us all our sanity back. My first son would hold my hand and stick close, but he had some sensory issues that would require my attention to be focused on him and it was a relief to know while I helped boy #1, boy #2 was within reach. It was a definite bonus that boy#2 loved the harness and was so well behaved with it.0 -
I only use it in certain situations I.e. when going to the zoo by myself because I have a 10 month old that is either in the stroller or in a front carrier and it makes it hard to catch the 2 year old without either having to leave the baby behind in the stroller or running in the carrier which is cumbersome. However, if my husband and/or my older two kids are with me we don't use it because we have enough hands to keep up with her.
I never used one with my older two children but they were 4 1/2 years apart not 16 months like these two and to be honest with you when they were little I thought it was awful. How could people do that? Well I have learned not to judge because you may not understand something.
Last thought I would probably exhaust all efforts before putting it on. Such as I will tell her to walk by me if she even goes a little ahead I either put her back in the stroller, make her hold my hand or ask her to help me push her brother in the stroller if she can't stay by me, one of those options usually work. Besides they have to learn at some point to stay by your side.
Oh and the harness we have looks like a fuzzy bear backpack and can also hold small items inside like juice box, cars, ect. And you can take the tail off if you want to give them a chance without it. Honestly it is nice to have an extra place to put a couple of there items
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I didn't need one for my son but I don't judge anyone that uses one. If I have more children I wont completely rule it out. I don't see why other people's parenting preferences matter to anyone else. I do what is best for my family, you should as well.
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I never used one, but the youngest BOLTED everywhere no matter how severe we were with him. I could see slapping one on him in that case. I probably wouldn't use it long term but I'd rather see a kid leashed then hit by a car. I think feeding kids nasty high fructose corn syrup and toaster pastries is worse then these harnesses.0
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I was led to believe I'd find lots of pictures of MILFs here.
Um... hello..check out the chick with the mustache!0 -
Some of these posts about kids being "runners" annoy me. I was a runner. Once. One time. After the spanking I got I made sure to never, ever, let go of my moms hand again. I'm not advocating spanking, heck, I don't even believe in it most of the time, but my question is how are these parents enforcing hand holding and staying close? This wasn't really an issue when I was a kid.
I remember going on family vacation with my extended family and friends when I was about 5. One of the boys (5 or 6) wandered off and when his parents found him they bought one of those backpack leash things and put it on him as punishment. That's how they were viewed in my circle, as a joke or punishment. Something had to be wrong with you if you need one of those. I know times have changed, and to each his own, but I know I wouldn't be able to use one of those on my kid. I would view it as a demeaning punishment and a failure on my part as a parent. *** I AM NOT SAYING THOSE WHO USE THEM ARE FAILURES OR ARE BAD PARENTS. That's just my 2 cents and personal point of view.
If you were old enough to remember the spanking you got from running off, you were probably a few years older than most of the kids parents are referencing in this thread that they are using reins for. I can see how using a rein at age 5 might be seen as a punishment, most 5 year olds can retain basic rules and he didn't just bolt like a toddler does, he wandered off according to your post. There's a big difference developmentally between a 1-4 year old and a 5-7 year old and a big difference between a 1-4 year old bolting or wandering and a 5-7 year old wandering off.
Toddlers - ages 1-4 - don't get danger, especially at the younger age range. They want to run and see whatever, and they bolt - in like the time it takes you to switch the hand you are holding, they have like a 3 second attention span. If you have other kids, you're probably also carrying at least 1 diaper bag, pushing a stroller and/or holding another child - it's impossible to react fast enough to grab your 2 year old from running in front of a car or disappearing into a crowd. My son was running at 10 months old. He refused to be carried as soon as he could crawl. Of course I taught him not to take off and appropriately addressed his behavior when he did but toddlers just don't retain things like an older 4 year old or 5 year old does. The majority of time I used a rein it was more about keeping him from getting separated in large crowds - some adults don't watch where they're walking and have literally walked right into my son's and my arms as we were holding hands knocking him over or separating him from me - or if we were walking near traffic, not kid friendly places like the park. Most parents realize it only takes 2 seconds for a small child to disappear or get seriously hurt because toddlers (the age the OP and most posters are referring to) don't get that cars are in the street and will hit them if they run in front of one or that mommy and daddy don't magically come with them everywhere when they run off to see whatever while mommy is cleaning up baby sister's spit up. It's not about punishment or failure, it's about realizing it's impossible to watch your kid every single second, knowing your own child's personality and limitations and keeping them safe in an effective way until they are old enough to think a little bit before they act.0
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