Grrrrr...visit to my doctor
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iamanasangel wrote: »I strongly disagree with ignoring what your doctor said... If you disagree with his advice then i would get another opinion. i would not, however, just be my own doctor. I dont know about everyone else here, but im not a doctor, i cant claim to know whats healthy for you. talk to another doctor but do not play doctor by yourself.
I agree with the above. Your doctor knows more about your health and your blood work then people on the board. Yes, some people have no problems eating whatever they want and still lose weight. There may be another reason behind why he told you to cut those things out. Did you ask him? Did you try and talk about this farther? Might be a good idea to talk to your doctor if you are unsure of his plan. If you can't trust your doctor then it might be a good idea to get a new one.0 -
It's been years since I've eaten the things he told you to cut out. Not dead yet!
I doubt that the standard hormone tests look at the levels of HGH. This normally drops until about 26YO but can remain high for life in some individuals or drop later in others. It is possible that your increase was due to a reduction in HGH or due to a lowering of sensitivity to HGH.
The human body is a very complex organism: It could also be a reaction to stress in either your concious or sub-conscious. And stress can come from many sources - even ones of which we are not aware. Were there any changes in your life before the increase began?0 -
Know what else those foods have in common? Sugar, High glycemic...
Check your insurance plan, you may not need a referral to a Registered Dietitian. Many insurance companies do pay for visits to Dietitians. You may also be able to request that your doctor send your blood work to the dietitian as well. Most Doctor's don't get much education on nutrition, Registered Dietitians spend 4 years or more getting that degree. If it were me, I'd get advice from somebody who spent 4 years studying food
Getting a consult with an RD is a great idea. I think it's way too premature to give up foods you enjoy. An RD consult, a food scale, an accurate logging is a good starting point.0 -
I'd be suspicious if a doctor told me that I'm "healthy as a horse" and then turns around and gives me a list of foods to avoid. If you're healthy then what is the reasoning behind it? Questioning your doctor, or seeking a second opinion is not the least bit unreasonable.
I see my endocrinologist for the first time on Tuesday. My labs were fine according to my GP, and an MRI showed no issue with my pituitary gland. My periods haven't been regular for the last 6 years, I have mild hirsutism, and unexplained migraines (both standard and ocular). Something is clearly not right, and if the endo tells me to stop eating a list of foods with nothing to back it up, you're damn right I'm going to question it.
I'm losing weight by watching literally every ounce that touches my lips, which led me to discover that sodium and I are not friends (I will blow up like a Macy's Day Parade balloon). None of it has had any impact on my other issues though.
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One good thing about not being smart enough to get into medical school. You can never be held responsible for giving out bad medical advice.
You don't actually have to be smarter than average to get into medical school, or even graduate. You just have to be able to study hard and memorize a lot of stuff.
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just be glad you dont have to take medication, its not funny and its not nice, i have a thyroid condition and its got alot of symptoms as well, so be glad
^^ What she said. It sucks to know that I'll have to take this medication for the rest of my life. Difficult weight loss is just the tip of the iceburg with hypothyroid issues. Dry skin, brittle nails, feeling cold, mood swings, feeling tired...just for starters.
If you just need to be a bit more careful with your diet, count your blessings. 0 -
iamanasangel wrote: »I strongly disagree with ignoring what your doctor said... If you disagree with his advice then i would get another opinion. i would not, however, just be my own doctor. I dont know about everyone else here, but im not a doctor, i cant claim to know whats healthy for you. talk to another doctor but do not play doctor by yourself.
I agree with the above. Your doctor knows more about your health and your blood work then people on the board. Yes, some people have no problems eating whatever they want and still lose weight. There may be another reason behind why he told you to cut those things out. Did you ask him? Did you try and talk about this farther? Might be a good idea to talk to your doctor if you are unsure of his plan. If you can't trust your doctor then it might be a good idea to get a new one.
he is an endocrinologist he knows about thyroids, which does not make him an expert on nutrition …
just because someone has MD or DR by their name does not make them a genius, actually i have found the opposite to be true ...0 -
MyaPapaya75 wrote: »What have you got to lose by cutting those foods and listening to your Physician? When you hire on a Physician I would assume you do so based on the fact you trust him/her. I would give it a shot you pay for the medical insurance just as you would a personal trainer to advice your on such or a nutritionist etc...What your Physician is advising isn't off the wall and doing a complete bloodwork was on point yep its not cool when we find out we don't have something to blame it on but be happy its fixable...Start small drop what you can on the list and eat the others in moderation work with your Physician so you can become a better you...Good luck! Based on what he advised it sounds to me your glucose might be a little high..not enough to alarm but just enough he may want you to just start buckling down. Do you know if he did an A1C?
LOL ..yea cut all foods when OP has no underlying medical condition ….genius advice…
why not try tracking, weighing, measuring everything and eat in a deficit first …? Why do you have to engage in self torture and eliminate a bunch of foods?0 -
Oh my friend ndj1979, I would have been disappointed if you didn't comment on my post. You do seem to be fascinated with what I have to say.
No Endocrinologist would advise me to eat wheat as it makes me too ill and the Primal/Paleo I follow is simply full of healthy foods and is not strict like the ancient Paleolithic diet. I simply choose not to eat preservative, additives and I am trying as much as possible to get added sugar out of my diet. I am sure he would be delighted with my choices and if not I would certainly seek another specialist.
perhaps it is because you are applying your unique situation to everyone and advising them to avoid "added sugar" and what not. News flash - your body does not distinguish between added sugar, natural sugar, sugar from heaven, or sugar from hell.it is just well, sugar...0 -
One good thing about not being smart enough to get into medical school. You can never be held responsible for giving out bad medical advice.
You don't actually have to be smarter than average to get into medical school, or even graduate. You just have to be able to study hard and memorize a lot of stuff.
This reminds me of that old cliche you sometimes hear about professional bodybuilders.
"You don't have to be strong to be a bodybuilder, you just have to have big muscles." 0 -
PrizePopple wrote: »I'd be suspicious if a doctor told me that I'm "healthy as a horse" and then turns around and gives me a list of foods to avoid. If you're healthy then what is the reasoning behind it? Questioning your doctor, or seeking a second opinion is not the least bit unreasonable.
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Yeah, either the OP is healthy and doesn't need specific food restrictions, or something was off and the doctor isn't being honest. I'd call and ask for a copy of the blood tests, and possibly find a new doc.0 -
When I entered menopause my body developed resistance to insulin. The way food is digested into energy is a chemical reaction. If a hormone alters the process there will be a consequence. So, yes you need to track calories and exercise but as we know the body is a complex set of systems running simultaneously so don't discount the affect of hormonal changes. If you told me that when I was 30, I would have smirked and thought eat less honey...but now I need to apologize because for me it's my truth.0
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So I had always been within the same 10 lb weight range for years and then I suddenly gained 15 lbs seemingly overnight...even though it was probably over a few months. I had not changed my eating habits at all so I was curious about what was going on. My blood work from my physical revealed low hormones so I set up an appointment with an Endocrinologist just to make sure something funky wasn't going on with my hormones. Well, he just told me that I'm "healthy as a horse" and nothing is wrong with hormones/thyroid. He wrote down a list of foods for me to cut out of my diet which are as follows: bread, rice, pasta, potatoes, chocolate, honey, sugar, peas, corn, and alcohol. Is it wrong of me to actually be disappointed that something wasn't wrong that caused the weight gain??...because now it means I REALLY have to tighten up my diet instead of simply taking a pill to "fix" what was wrong...I guess the truth hurts......
Why did your doctor tell you to cut out those foods? If he/she didn't tell you the reason, then you might want to ask.
You gained weight because you ate too much. In order to lose weight, a calorie deficit is all that's required. That's it.
Here's some suggestions: weigh all solids and measure all liquids, log every single bite you eat, set up your goals in MFP to eat according to your desired weight loss goals, and eat within that calorie limit. If you do these things you will lose weight no matter what you eat. 0 -
I'd get a second opinion!0
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One good thing about not being smart enough to get into medical school. You can never be held responsible for giving out bad medical advice.
You don't actually have to be smarter than average to get into medical school, or even graduate. You just have to be able to study hard and memorize a lot of stuff.
This reminds me of that old cliche you sometimes hear about professional bodybuilders.
"You don't have to be strong to be a bodybuilder, you just have to have big muscles."
Well, it is true, about doctors at least. I can't comment on bodybuilders. You think just because someone is an MD, they automatically have a higher IQ than someone who isn't? Nope.
I have friends who are physicians and psychiatrists (yes, they go to med school, PLUS do 4-6 years of additional training in psychiatry, residencies, etc) and they readily admit they aren't the smartest the people ever; they had to study their *kitten* off the whole time and pretty much had no life outside of school.
It takes a lot of dedication, and time, to be sure.
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Sounds like you have found a good doctor who is recommending healthy, nutritious natural food which is unprocessed. The doctor also isn't just giving you a pill which might cure you by covering the symptoms but giving you side effects which damage something else in your body. Give it a go see how you feel. I reckon you will lose weight and have a lot more energy if you follow his advice correctly. Eating fats and proteins makes you feel full which is the reason why you lose weight. You eat less you are never ravenously hungry. Control your insulin spikes and you will make your body regulate when to eat.0
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i eat pasta potatoes or bread or rice with every main meal everyday and i lose weight i think you need to look at how much you are eating and not what you are eating0
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perhaps it is because you are applying your unique situation to everyone and advising them to avoid "added sugar" and what not. News flash - your body does not distinguish between added sugar, natural sugar, sugar from heaven, or sugar from hell.it is just well, sugar...
But do you agree that a person can have too much sugar. Say for instance, a day of eating things like Coco Pops, fast foods, donuts, coke and lollies.
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I would buy it if he had said cut back on, because that list contains a lot of things that are easy to overeat, but to cut out entirely seems like a bit of overkill.0
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