If eating trash makes us sick, why do we keep eating it?

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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Because, I'm on a new mission.

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  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
    In true MFP fashion, it's time for obligatory food porn to calm everyone down:

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  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    I think you're harmless in general.

    If that would have made any sense I probably would have been able to provide you with a response.

    I think if that reply didn't add to your post count, you wouldn't have said anything at all.
  • RGv2
    RGv2 Posts: 5,789 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    RGv2 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Someone please tell me what other thread you're talking about. If you insist on having drama, I at least want to understand it! HARRRUMPH!

    Yup. The sugar thread they just linked you to. She pops in on page 5 with this:
    I've been on several threads on MFP and I've seen them devolve in exactly the same way -- someone asks a question, someone else comments that sugar isn't very good for them and they avoid it, and then about three people get their hammers out and start bellowing about FOOD POLICE and SUGAR HATERS! and PROVE YOUR POINT WITH SCIENCE OR SHUT UP FOREVER!!!

    Well, here's your chance, boys: prove to all of us that sugar is just fine for everyone all the time. Go ahead, there's a tornado watch here and I'll be up all night. I'll wait for your Google links or whatever.

    Unless you are going to go the "I don't have to prove anything to you" route while you are all up in arms about the other kids on the playground.

    Then after her failed links comes:
    I could do this all night! But I'm pretty sure I'm about to get scolded for spamming the thread and anyway, the tornado watch is coming to a close. That was a bad storm but no tornados here! I'm tired, and I'm tired of rubbing your noses in your own poop. I'm sure, just like with my dog, it's not going to do any good, and you'll be back on the forums, cracking down on people with your absolute and unshakable belief that anyone with a bad reaction to sugar is a fear-mongering liar troll hysteric.

    (On a more serious note, I do want to thank you for giving me something to think about instead of the storm. It really helped me and I had fun instead of being curled up in terror on the bathroom floor.)

    Am I the only one where the only thing I got from that was, why would you stay up all night for a tornado watch? They hand those out to like 1/2 the state at a time.

    No, that was my first thought as well. Tornado Watch? No way. I used to not even get out of bed unless the sirens were going off but after Joplin and a couple of other tornadoes that hit with no warning, I do try to be more cognizant of Tornado Warnings...

    I bet there are people that go to the second floor of their house during flash flood warnings too...

    I'm pay close attentions to warnings as a weather geek, but watches....meh. It might not even rain in a watch area.
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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    He just needs to realize I'm before him in the line to hump your leg.

    I have 2 legs bro.
    Tell me you know what mean jerk time is. I hope you've seen that...
  • DeWoSa
    DeWoSa Posts: 496 Member
    I've never lived in an area with tornados before, and I accidentally drove near a tornado, so yeah, now I'm pretty scared anytime the possibility occurs.

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  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    I think you're harmless in general.

    If that would have made any sense I probably would have been able to provide you with a response.

    I think if that reply didn't add to your post count, you wouldn't have said anything at all.

    okay

    s
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    I think you're harmless in general.

    If that would have made any sense I probably would have been able to provide you with a response.

    I think if that reply didn't add to your post count, you wouldn't have said anything at all.

    okay

    s

    u
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    I think you're harmless in general.

    If that would have made any sense I probably would have been able to provide you with a response.

    I think if that reply didn't add to your post count, you wouldn't have said anything at all.

    okay

    s

    u

    r
  • JeffseekingV
    JeffseekingV Posts: 3,165 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    I think you're harmless in general.

    If that would have made any sense I probably would have been able to provide you with a response.

    I think if that reply didn't add to your post count, you wouldn't have said anything at all.

    okay

    s

    u

    r

    e
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    I've never lived in an area with tornados before, and I accidentally drove near a tornado, so yeah, now I'm pretty scared anytime the possibility occurs.
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)
  • DeWoSa
    DeWoSa Posts: 496 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)

    I really really really appreciate this! Thank you!
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)

    I really really really appreciate this! Thank you!
    We have senses beyond the big 5 we talk about. If you listen to how you feel, you can learn a lot.

    I remember a time I was almost struck by lightning. It arced by and landed feet from me but one story down. I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear. My arm hair went on end a good 10 seconds or so before the strike. I felt like I was going to get in a fight or puke right before it happened. Then BOOM.
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Is that what you mean by you being level headed and us not?

    OMG so many things wrong with this.

    I was complimenting someone on their post. How could you have possibly interpreted that as 1. it was an insult to you, and 2. I was claiming to be level-headed in a post on another thread?

    Try this one on for size:

    The sky is blue today!

    What does that mean to you? That I insulted your mother and am claiming to be a rocket scientist?

    Just means he has over 8,000 posts but only about 3 of them actually help anyone.
    Just when people think you're starting to calm down and fit in, you have to have a fit again.

    Calm down? My emotions have hardly moved while posting that.

    You know what I mean.

    It's OK man, his admiration for me is harmless.

    He just needs to realize I'm before him in the line to hump your leg.

    I have 2 legs bro.
    In true MFP fashion, it's time for obligatory food porn to calm everyone down:

    Chocolate-Brownie-Sundae.jpg


    I approve!!!!!!! That looks amazing

    Yep, after finding that pic I think I just rolled up on one of our Thanksgiving desserts.

    Probably try and get pumpkin pie ice cream or gelato to place on top.

  • WinoGelato
    WinoGelato Posts: 13,454 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)

    I really really really appreciate this! Thank you!
    We have senses beyond the big 5 we talk about. If you listen to how you feel, you can learn a lot.

    I remember a time I was almost struck by lightning. It arced by and landed feet from me but one story down. I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear. My arm hair went on end a good 10 seconds or so before the strike. I felt like I was going to get in a fight or puke right before it happened. Then BOOM.

    Sticking around this trainwreck of a thread was worth it just for your description of I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear.
  • SnuggleSmacks
    SnuggleSmacks Posts: 3,731 Member
    edited November 2014
    dbmata wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)

    I really really really appreciate this! Thank you!
    We have senses beyond the big 5 we talk about. If you listen to how you feel, you can learn a lot.

    I remember a time I was almost struck by lightning. It arced by and landed feet from me but one story down. I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear. My arm hair went on end a good 10 seconds or so before the strike. I felt like I was going to get in a fight or puke right before it happened. Then BOOM.

    The 5 senses is a joke. I can't believe they ever taught that crap in schools (and still do!) We have many more senses than that without even getting metaphysical. A sense of time. A sense of self. A sense of our physical body (this is why we can touch our noses even with our eyes closed.) Balance and temperature. There's lots more.
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Kruggeri wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    Kalikel wrote: »
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)

    I really really really appreciate this! Thank you!
    We have senses beyond the big 5 we talk about. If you listen to how you feel, you can learn a lot.

    I remember a time I was almost struck by lightning. It arced by and landed feet from me but one story down. I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear. My arm hair went on end a good 10 seconds or so before the strike. I felt like I was going to get in a fight or puke right before it happened. Then BOOM.

    Sticking around this trainwreck of a thread was worth it just for your description of I'm wonderfully hairy, like the wolfman mated with yogi bear.

    One of these years, I'm totally going to shave a bit and rock the Connery zardoz outfit.
  • ForecasterJason
    ForecasterJason Posts: 2,577 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    I've never lived in an area with tornados before, and I accidentally drove near a tornado, so yeah, now I'm pretty scared anytime the possibility occurs.
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)
    I am a weather forecaster, and I have to say that not all of this is accurate. I have heard a lot of accounts of people that survived tornadoes, and in a lot of cases they were caught off guard. Or, by the time they knew it was coming, they barely had time to seek shelter. While I agree that the odds of actually being hit by a tornado are very low, it does not mean one should just sit back and not pay any attention when a tornado watch or warning is issued. You would be amazed at the number of accounts I've heard in which the victim has said something like, "I hear about tornadoes all the time, but never thought it would happen to me". Panicking is not going to do any good, but that's different from taking necessary precautions just in case.

    All one simply needs to do if a tornado watch is issued is have a way to be notified in case a tornado warning is issued. If a tornado warning is issued, then one should be in a closed structure away from windows, preferably on the lowest level of a building if possible.

    Also, some weaker tornadoes can strike with little warning. Meaning, a line of thunderstorms can race through, and a tornado could quickly spin up within the line. In these instances, you're probably not going to "feel" it coming, as you say.
  • LeenaGee wrote: »
    Charlottesometimes, I was talking about new restaurants being established in Melbourne at the time and you replied that you believed we need greater scientific literacy.

    Scientific literacy - crikey, you can't eat that when you're hungry. :)

    Lol....you were talking about Paleo restaurants, silly uninformed celebs and the move to paleo style eating as if it was the be all and end all to healthful eating, which is so very wrong. People jump on that bandwagon because they don't really understand nutrition and human physiology, which is a shame. You don't need to cut out grains and dairy if you don't have a specific medical problem such as coeliac disease. It's also a shame that they would prefer to listen to uninformed celebs than people who have spent many years of education and professional practice, and understand how to critically review all of the evidence.

    Remember, you brought up how Australians were changing to a better way of eating, evidenced by paleo restaurants, uninformed celebs who pass themselves off as experts, and the like.

    I was embarrassed and trying to defend some of my my fellow Australians as being a little smarter and discerning, and suggesting some education for the Pete followers. ;)

  • DeWoSa
    DeWoSa Posts: 496 Member
    edited November 2014
    All one simply needs to do if a tornado watch is issued is have a way to be notified in case a tornado warning is issued. If a tornado warning is issued, then one should be in a closed structure away from windows, preferably on the lowest level of a building if possible.
    .

    I'm honestly not sure how to be notified -- I have an app on my phone but it goes off all night long for flood warnings, and I'm not in a flood zone. I check the computer every 15 minutes but I'd really like to get some sleep! Is there any device or app I should use that will let me select just tornado warnings?


  • LeenaGee
    LeenaGee Posts: 749 Member

    Deirdre, we don't have tornadoes here. It must be quite scary at times. Where do you go if a tornado hits?

    Charlotte, I gave up defending my fellow Australians years ago. You just have to go to Bali and you will see some dreadful behaviour at times and their eating habits and idols seem to revolve around alcohol. Fun loving and gorgeous people but at times not too bright. :)

    Actually, I really don't mind Pete. I think if he can get people discussion nutrition then it is a good thing.
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,603 Member
    Kalikel wrote: »
    I've never lived in an area with tornados before, and I accidentally drove near a tornado, so yeah, now I'm pretty scared anytime the possibility occurs.
    People who live in places with infrequent tornado watch/warnings tend to wig out a bit when they hear the word "tornado." It's understandable. Try to chill out. It's very unlikely that you'll be sucked up in a tornado.

    I grew up where tornado watches and warnings were so common that I don't even know which one meant a tornado might form and which one meant they actually saw at least one tornado. Didn't matter, I always did the same thing: Nothing.

    I was near a tornado once. Believe me, when they get close, you know something is up. It's not just creepy weather, with the weird sky and clouds. You just know. People know. Animals know. You can almost feel it in your skin...you become very aware of something awesome, weather-wise.

    We didn't even have a TV or radio on and we knew.

    When it's real, it's different. Promise.

    So don't worry. :)
    I am a weather forecaster, and I have to say that not all of this is accurate. I have heard a lot of accounts of people that survived tornadoes, and in a lot of cases they were caught off guard. Or, by the time they knew it was coming, they barely had time to seek shelter. While I agree that the odds of actually being hit by a tornado are very low, it does not mean one should just sit back and not pay any attention when a tornado watch or warning is issued. You would be amazed at the number of accounts I've heard in which the victim has said something like, "I hear about tornadoes all the time, but never thought it would happen to me". Panicking is not going to do any good, but that's different from taking necessary precautions just in case.

    All one simply needs to do if a tornado watch is issued is have a way to be notified in case a tornado warning is issued. If a tornado warning is issued, then one should be in a closed structure away from windows, preferably on the lowest level of a building if possible.

    Also, some weaker tornadoes can strike with little warning. Meaning, a line of thunderstorms can race through, and a tornado could quickly spin up within the line. In these instances, you're probably not going to "feel" it coming, as you say.
    You'd certainly know more than I do!

    We just had too many of those tornado watches and warnings to spend that much time worrying about them. Since I lived with that as part of normal life, I don't wig out where I live now when there is one. Other people do. I get it.

    I do know that ours - you knew something was coming. I said later that I could feel it in my skin and everyone agreed. We'd seen lots of skies with creepiness, but there was something awesome...I don't know. Lots of times before, I'd thought, "Ooh, maybe tornado! Sky looks creepy! Maybe this is what it's like!" But when it was real, I KNEW. I didn't wonder. Everyone knew.

    Except the birds. The birds were trying to fly and getting tossed around in the air. It was very weird to see the birds getting zipped about. But that was enough. I didn't intend to become one of those birds. It was time to hide and pray. :)
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    LeenaGee wrote: »
    Charlotte, I gave up defending my fellow Australians years ago. You just have to go to Bali and you will see some dreadful behaviour at times and their eating habits and idols seem to revolve around alcohol. Fun loving and gorgeous people but at times not too bright. :)
    Wow, I've seen a lot of screwed up statements in this forum. This takes the cake though.
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    TheRealKit wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    stealthq wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    stealthq wrote: »
    Wrong because you can always control your weight through diet no matter how little exercise you do
    –Just because you can does not mean you should. Dieting without exercising is IMO a path to disordered eating...
    stealthq wrote: »
    which makes diet the primary component for success.
    Again I respectfully disagree...
    stealthq wrote: »
    You can't out-exercise any diet, which makes exercise a secondary component for success.
    Not true. Again, I said within reason. That said, the physical adaptations one experiences from exercise change the game with which the body utilizes calories which again IMO, makes exercise the primary component...
    stealthq wrote: »
    Of course people who exercise some have a higher rate of success because they have more leeway in their diet. No argument there.
    –Agreed. More leeway means better compliance which means better success...
    stealthq wrote: »
    Well, OK. Then what exactly does daily exercise mean to you?
    –Something as simple as long walks, hikes, playing with kids to as intense as a marathon or intense weight lifting. It means being active every day. The more advanced society becomes, the lazier IMO we become.

    stealthq wrote: »
    Daily exercise is not necessary to keep weight off.
    –Absolutely disagree. Again, just because you can does not mean you should. Why make it harder on yourself by excluding something you should be doing anyway.

    Clearly we're going to disagree on this one, but the notion that losing your weight solely through dieting is a path to disordered eating is just nuts to me. That's exactly how plenty of other people on this site lost their weight. I almost count among this group, except that I was doing slo-fit at the time 1x per wk (so you can figure <100 cals burned). Other than that, I had a desk job. No disordered eating here, unless you count logging. Even that gets dropped on occasion (vacations, holidays, just plain inconvenient).

    And frankly, I don't see why you 'should' be exercising 7 days a week. It certainly isn't necessary for health or for weight maintenance. Many don't have to exercise at all and can be healthy and maintain their weight if they watch their diet.

    Is it better to exercise? Sure. Always better to be stronger, more flexible, have more endurance, etc. But you can do those things 3, 4 or 5 days a week with at least equal results as someone exercising 7 days a week. And if you're working at high intensity, those days off become important.

    Exercise is certainly not necessary for weight loss, or maintenance. There are plenty of people that are unable to exercise due to medical conditions, but they can still lose, or maintain a healthy weight through diet alone. Exercising alone won't do anything to help weight unless you also monitor intake, whether by calorie counting, or other methods. Calories in vs calories out still applies. You SHOULD exercise for optimal health, of course, but again, it's not NECESSARY for weight control. And it's certainly not NECESSARY to exercise EVERY day.

    Daily physical activity is the foundation of energy balance...


    Physical activity is necessary to help prevent muscle atrophy. Even if it isn't necessary to exercise daily , it is necessary to move your body in some way or another. Regardless if you are bed bound or chair bound, your muscle need to be used . Losing weight doesn't always mean it will improve health. Attempting to be active in any way possible increases the possibilities for better health and to prevent healthy decline.

    There's a difference between actual exercise and "moving your body around."
  • fatcity66
    fatcity66 Posts: 1,544 Member
    J72FIT wrote: »
    fatcity66 wrote: »
    stealthq wrote: »
    J72FIT wrote: »
    stealthq wrote: »
    Wrong because you can always control your weight through diet no matter how little exercise you do
    –Just because you can does not mean you should. Dieting without exercising is IMO a path to disordered eating...
    stealthq wrote: »
    which makes diet the primary component for success.
    Again I respectfully disagree...
    stealthq wrote: »
    You can't out-exercise any diet, which makes exercise a secondary component for success.
    Not true. Again, I said within reason. That said, the physical adaptations one experiences from exercise change the game with which the body utilizes calories which again IMO, makes exercise the primary component...
    stealthq wrote: »
    Of course people who exercise some have a higher rate of success because they have more leeway in their diet. No argument there.
    –Agreed. More leeway means better compliance which means better success...
    stealthq wrote: »
    Well, OK. Then what exactly does daily exercise mean to you?
    –Something as simple as long walks, hikes, playing with kids to as intense as a marathon or intense weight lifting. It means being active every day. The more advanced society becomes, the lazier IMO we become.

    stealthq wrote: »
    Daily exercise is not necessary to keep weight off.
    –Absolutely disagree. Again, just because you can does not mean you should. Why make it harder on yourself by excluding something you should be doing anyway.

    Clearly we're going to disagree on this one, but the notion that losing your weight solely through dieting is a path to disordered eating is just nuts to me. That's exactly how plenty of other people on this site lost their weight. I almost count among this group, except that I was doing slo-fit at the time 1x per wk (so you can figure <100 cals burned). Other than that, I had a desk job. No disordered eating here, unless you count logging. Even that gets dropped on occasion (vacations, holidays, just plain inconvenient).

    And frankly, I don't see why you 'should' be exercising 7 days a week. It certainly isn't necessary for health or for weight maintenance. Many don't have to exercise at all and can be healthy and maintain their weight if they watch their diet.

    Is it better to exercise? Sure. Always better to be stronger, more flexible, have more endurance, etc. But you can do those things 3, 4 or 5 days a week with at least equal results as someone exercising 7 days a week. And if you're working at high intensity, those days off become important.

    Exercise is certainly not necessary for weight loss, or maintenance. There are plenty of people that are unable to exercise due to medical conditions, but they can still lose, or maintain a healthy weight through diet alone. Exercising alone won't do anything to help weight unless you also monitor intake, whether by calorie counting, or other methods. Calories in vs calories out still applies. You SHOULD exercise for optimal health, of course, but again, it's not NECESSARY for weight control. And it's certainly not NECESSARY to exercise EVERY day.

    Daily physical activity is the foundation of energy balance...

    So, you can't have a negative energy balance without exercise?
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    You really just asked that? >_<
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