Can some food spike your metabolism?

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  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
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    sseqwnp wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    Nothing I know of can speed up your metabolism but there are foods that will effect thermogenesis, thus burning more calories as your body heats up or make you burn more energy due to activity increase.

    Is this a noticeable difference? What types of foods?

    Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
    Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
    Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.

    Percent of .. what?

    The calories i guess like thermongenics is 10% of the calories you eat. Reason why meal timing and meal spacing have no effect on weight loss or gain.

  • sseqwnp
    sseqwnp Posts: 327 Member
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    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    sseqwnp wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    Nothing I know of can speed up your metabolism but there are foods that will effect thermogenesis, thus burning more calories as your body heats up or make you burn more energy due to activity increase.

    Is this a noticeable difference? What types of foods?

    Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
    Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
    Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.

    Percent of .. what?

    The calories i guess like thermongenics is 10% of the calories you eat. Reason why meal timing and meal spacing have no effect on weight loss or gain.

    Or 3% or 7% or 30%

    Question remains unanswered ...
  • Kalikel
    Kalikel Posts: 9,626 Member
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    dbmata wrote: »
    It was deleted? Norfolk and Way.

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  • wilsoncl6
    wilsoncl6 Posts: 1,280 Member
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    sseqwnp wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    Nothing I know of can speed up your metabolism but there are foods that will effect thermogenesis, thus burning more calories as your body heats up or make you burn more energy due to activity increase.

    Is this a noticeable difference? What types of foods?

    Fats have thermic effect approximately 3%. Dietary fat is very easy to process.
    Carbohydrates induced thermogenic response is about 7%.
    Proteins are hard to process. Protein is the most thermogenic nutrient, with the thermic effect close to 30%. Some body temp increasers are chilli pepper, horseradish, mustard, cinnamon, fennel seed, garlic, ginger, ginseng, guarana, and turmeric.

    Percent of .. what?

    Percentage of thermogenic response from what I understand.
  • wilsoncl6
    wilsoncl6 Posts: 1,280 Member
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    Drinking lots of water also increases thermogenesis.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
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    lorib642 wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    SueInAz wrote: »
    YES! certain combos of diet and certain types of exercise can absolutely spike your metabolism.
    How can you state this and not give examples?

    Oh, easy. By just typing the sentence on to the keyboard and hitting Post Reply

    I'm going against the grain here... but I LOVE this response.

    Yeah, it even made me chuckle ("got me there!") but the whole thing from beginning to end was just a troll looking for an argument.

    I don't think troll is the right word. Maybe just mis-informed

    I wish there was some miracle food combo

  • DragonShoe_GCole
    DragonShoe_GCole Posts: 137 Member
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    __drmerc__ wrote: »
    I think you need to eat negative calorie foods

    I thought that this has yet to be scientifically proven....

  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
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    sseqwnp wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    Ok, so it's not exactly a food, and not an all the time food at that...

    but what about Montana's finest uncut coke?

    Doesn't that spike metabolism?

    It's an all natural plant extract clinically proven to increase metabolism and suppress appetite.
    Does it increase metabolism?

    Not that I'm going to go nose first into a bowl of the stuff, just curious and it came to mind as a potential qualifier.
  • hamoncan
    hamoncan Posts: 148 Member
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    Whoa, what happened here? :wink:

    Thanks for the responses (most of them anyways). Food for thought.

    The only one that has me worried is the batteries one - the scale probably does need new batteries, I knew it was too good to be true! :wink:
  • ninerbuff
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    wilsoncl6 wrote: »
    Drinking lots of water also increases thermogenesis.
    This holds some truth to it.

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  • katematt313
    katematt313 Posts: 624 Member
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    I've read that MCT oil boosts metabolism.
  • Iwishyouwell
    Iwishyouwell Posts: 1,888 Member
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    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.

    He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.

    Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.

    and a very slow RMR

    What constitutes "very slow"?
  • yopeeps025
    yopeeps025 Posts: 8,680 Member
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    yopeeps025 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.

    He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.

    Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.

    and a very slow RMR

    What constitutes "very slow"?



    I would say anything slower than how much your RMR should be at the weight you are.
  • WalkingAlong
    WalkingAlong Posts: 4,926 Member
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    It wouldn't surprise me if plant fats did have some positive effect on calorie balance. I just posted an article in the Food forum that discussed studies showing alcohol didn't make some people gain weight.

    I know a lot of people who do just fine with a lot of nuts, avocados, olive oil, etc. in their diet. I often have good weight loss results with high plant fat levels in my diet.
  • lorib642
    lorib642 Posts: 1,942 Member
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    hamoncan wrote: »
    Whoa, what happened here? :wink:

    Thanks for the responses (most of them anyways). Food for thought.

    The only one that has me worried is the batteries one - the scale probably does need new batteries, I knew it was too good to be true! :wink:

    glad you got something out of it

    speaking of scales. does anyone know if they start fluctuating when the batteries are going? I don't know how much variance is normal. I think it is supposed to signal somehow when the batteries need changed.
  • MomTo3Lovez
    MomTo3Lovez Posts: 800 Member
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    lorib642 wrote: »
    hamoncan wrote: »
    Whoa, what happened here? :wink:

    Thanks for the responses (most of them anyways). Food for thought.

    The only one that has me worried is the batteries one - the scale probably does need new batteries, I knew it was too good to be true! :wink:

    glad you got something out of it

    speaking of scales. does anyone know if they start fluctuating when the batteries are going? I don't know how much variance is normal. I think it is supposed to signal somehow when the batteries need changed.

    My scale started giving weird weights and never showed that the battery needed changing, I changed it anyway and the weights looked better...I knew I hadn't lost 10lbs in a week lol If you are finding weight really off you might want to change the battery...the more you use the scale the faster the battery will go...IMO

  • _Terrapin_
    _Terrapin_ Posts: 4,301 Member
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    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Of course, send me a private message proving that you are serious about the question you asked. Then I'll decide if I'll elaborate.

    Translation: "I don't know jack **** but if you'll PM me, I'll try and sell you something."


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  • wamydia
    wamydia Posts: 259 Member
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    MrM27 wrote: »
    MrM27 wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.

    He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.

    Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.

    So then when I was stalled in my weight loss why was I told to play around with the calories with adding more calories??

    I may have worded it wrong but I have heard that adding more calories can help.

    Because you were give information by someone based on false ideas. You might see a reduction in weight after an increase or a cheat meal/day due to relieving some stress and having a reduction in cortisol but increasing isn't making you burn more fat.
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    Mr_Knight wrote: »
    lorib642 wrote: »
    OP I know you said you added calories. Is it possible you miscalculated? I find fatty foods like nuts sometimes fill me up longer and I actually eat less calories. I am not doubting you, just that I haven't heard of losing by eating more.

    He may have been in too much of a deficit and adding more calories might have helped with some of the weight loss.

    Biology doesn't work that way. "Too much of a deficit" results in rapid weight loss - always.

    So then when I was stalled in my weight loss why was I told to play around with the calories with adding more calories??

    Because the world is full of people giving bad advice on topics they know little about.

    Oh then I guess when I added more calories by a little and started losing again I guess it was just a fluke...ok thanks

    The problem is you accepted information just because and then when you try to pass it off to others you might be asked to explain it but you won't be able to

    Thank you for the first part of your reply....the second part well it is what it is, it happened with me when I added more calories and that's what I said didn't try to come up with anything else just my experience that's all, didn't look to start anything...sorry.

    Ok well since you apparently know more then me with the amount of posts you have clearly you have been here a while....what is with the whole Eat More to Lose More?? I mean it contradicts weight loss no? Unless I am not understanding it fully which is entirely possible hence why I am asking.
    I'm not a fan of the whole eat more to lose more thought process because it just makes people think things work the way the don't. At the end of the day to lose you need a deficit. Hormones do play a role in overall health and like I said before Cotisol is a big one. I feel the whole eat more lose more idea gets tossed around without consideration to what other factors could have been responsible.

    I prefer "Net caloric deficit to lose fat"

    Yeah that makes more sense because people like myself that are still learning interpret it differently....I am glad that I asked about it because it probably would have backfired on me since I don't have a lot to lose so I am glad I opened my big "uneducated about how weight loss works" mouth :smile:

    Eating more to lose weight works well for some folks for a psychological reason I think. When people are eating at too deep of a deficit, it tends to results in binges (logged or not), extra cheating like taking an extra spoonful of everything when you're making your dinner plate (logged or not), eating 3 cookies instead of 2 (logged or not), etc. because when you are eating too little, you are likely to be hungry all the time. And, because you're human, you're likely to find a million little ways to eat a little more here or there and maybe not log it or acknowledge it even happened because you're trying so hard to hit your calorie goal. The end result is that you end up eating way above your goal and you don't even know by how much which results in weight gain or a stall out. When you just accept that your calorie goal should be a few hundred calories higher and plan based on that, you're more likely to stay full and satisfied. Simply put, it's easier to stick to your stated goal and not go over by who-knows-how-many-calories on a regular basis. At the end of the day, though, the higher goal is still a calorie deficit, just not as deep of one.
  • Christine_72
    Christine_72 Posts: 16,049 Member
    edited November 2014
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    You could try coffee extract pills. Not sure if they work or not??
    Give them a try for a full month and see what happens.