Good news for people who like eating fat!
rprussell2004
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SCIENCE!
"New research links diabetes, heart disease risk to diet high in carbs, not fat."
I'm gonna do them a few better and quadruple it.
"New research links diabetes, heart disease risk to diet high in carbs, not fat."
I'm gonna do them a few better and quadruple it.
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well that's news from left field!!!0
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Interesting study. Thanks for posting.0
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Science is a great thing, isn't it?0
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It's true because fats aren't broken down into sugar in our bodies, carbs are (apart from sugar itself of course). Love my fats
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I've known this for awhile. It's great to see some good research going on around it.0
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So eating chicken skin is OK now? I was taught to remove the skin.. it's a habit now.0
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well that defeats the whole purpose of buying a rotisserie chicken. that crisp delicious skin is where it is at!!!warblerofdoom wrote: »So eating chicken skin is OK now? I was taught to remove the skin.. it's a habit now.0 -
You were taught that dietary fat makes you fat and that dietary fat leads to heart disease.warblerofdoom wrote: »So eating chicken skin is OK now? I was taught to remove the skin.. it's a habit now.
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Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....0
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Guess I'm done for. I love carbs.0
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redfisher1974 wrote: »Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....
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I guess I don't get this comment. Given that science is always "learning something new", do we ignore all science and do what we've always done?redfisher1974 wrote: »Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....
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I wonder what sort of results would come about if conducted on those who don't have metabolic disorders.0
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I believe it. I prefer less of a regular item to low fat or no fat. Bacon is Delicious.
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LolBroScience wrote: »I wonder what sort of results would come about if conducted on those who don't have metabolic disorders.
A great question. Hasn't Volek done studies on that as well? Limited, granted...
I'd also wonder: what percentage of Americans (for example) has metabolic syndrome based on their descriptor: "defined as the presence of at least three of five factors that increase the risk for heart disease and diabetes (excess belly fat, elevated blood pressure, low “good” cholesterol, insulin resistance or glucose intolerance, and high triglycerides)".
I'm gonna bet it's not an insignificant percentage.0 -
Agreed. I'd actually prefer if they used more than 16 subjects, too. I always have a problem with studies that use such a statistically small group of people.LolBroScience wrote: »I wonder what sort of results would come about if conducted on those who don't have metabolic disorders.
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redfisher1974 wrote: »Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....
I'm pretty sure no one ever thought smoking was "good for you," maybe just not "bad for you." Difference.0 -
Agreed. I'd actually prefer if they used more than 16 subjects, too. I always have a problem with studies that use such a statistically small group of people.LolBroScience wrote: »I wonder what sort of results would come about if conducted on those who don't have metabolic disorders.
I think we're building up to a more widespread and thorough test. (Or at least, I'd like to believe we are...)
The ball's just starting to get rolling on this stuff, after ~40 years of going the wrong direction.0 -
I mean it is what it is... You just have to take it for what it's worth given the population they carried it out on.
It may not have practical application to average, healthy individuals etc..0 -
LolBroScience wrote: »I mean it is what it is... You just have to take it for what it's worth given the population they carried it out on.
It may not have practical application to average, healthy individuals etc..
This is what we have now. We take it for what it is now, yep.0 -
Eggs were bad and then they were good and then they were bad....etc etc etc. I've learned to not put faith in any single study. We all know what's good for us intuitively. We don't need a study to understand the simple concept of moderation in all things.0
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For folks who are considering this article with any seriousness, I urge you to refer to the study linked, rather than just the university press release.0
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Well, obviously. Fat has little affect on blood glucose.0
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Well, HERE'S the problem:This work was supported by the Dairy Research Institute, the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association and the Egg Nutrition Center.
Follow the money, sheeple! No wonder the findings supported LCHF!-1 -
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rprussell2004 wrote: »Well, HERE'S the problem:This work was supported by the Dairy Research Institute, the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association and the Egg Nutrition Center.
Follow the money, sheeple! No wonder the findings supported LCHF!
Always a concern unfortunately.0 -
redfisher1974 wrote: »Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....
I'm pretty sure no one ever thought smoking was "good for you," maybe just not "bad for you." Difference.
Actually, Teddy Roosevelt was prescribed cigars as a child because it was thought that it would help cure his asthma (along with drinking coffee and whiskey). It didn't work out so well, but not surprisingly he did much better when he started incorporating vigorous exercise into his life.0 -
rprussell2004 wrote: »Well, HERE'S the problem:This work was supported by the Dairy Research Institute, the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association and the Egg Nutrition Center.
Follow the money, sheeple! No wonder the findings supported LCHF!
Well, those groups certainly have a vested interest in this study having results which would benefit their industries but it doesn't change the fact that eating fat doesn't make one fat and a high carb diet is problematic for those with certain medical markers. There have been other studies which have suggested the same (and no I don't have links to them while I'm at work) in the past and hopefully more coming in the future.0 -
redfisher1974 wrote: »Whats proven today will be dis-proven tomorrow... Doctors use to think smoking was good for you....
I'm pretty sure no one ever thought smoking was "good for you," maybe just not "bad for you." Difference.
Actually, Teddy Roosevelt was prescribed cigars as a child because it was thought that it would help cure his asthma (along with drinking coffee and whiskey). It didn't work out so well, but not surprisingly he did much better when he started incorporating vigorous exercise into his life.
Oh jeez...0 -
Don't forget Atkins foundationrprussell2004 wrote: »Well, HERE'S the problem:This work was supported by the Dairy Research Institute, the National Cattlemen’s Beef Association and the Egg Nutrition Center.
Follow the money, sheeple! No wonder the findings supported LCHF!
http://www.plosone.org/article/info:doi/10.1371/journal.pone.0113605. Funny how they weren't mentioned in the Competing Interests section.
Funding: This work was funded by a grant from Dairy Research Institute, The Beef Checkoff, the Egg Nutrition Center, and the Robert C. And Veronica Atkins Foundation. The funders had no role in study design, data collection and analysis, decision to publish, or preparation of the manuscript. Partial funding for Open Access provided by The Ohio State University Open Access Fund.-1
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