Guide to making claims based on experience
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Says one of the leaders the pack lately with the awesome sweet. You should be ashamed.ithrowconfetti wrote: »Quit trying to kill people faster. Cake contains toxic baking soda.
How dare you. I ensure that all products I endorse and consume only contain baking powder. Baking powder = cream of tartar + starch + baking soda = less amounts of baking soda per serving = negligible = not toxic.0 -
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herrspoons wrote: »DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »There are two kinds of people in this world: Ones who take the time to understand how things work, and people who fail.
Please cite your source. heh heh
The number of people with very high post counts who are still here complaining about not being able to lose weight?
Correlation/causation? I have under 500 posts and i've been here 3 years, however some on the forums have thousands of posts in 6 months. And some with many posts have lost lots and some with many posts have not. Vice versa with few posts. How does the number of posts correlate to success of their weight loss or cause it to be more or less effective?
Anybody got a study to cite?0 -
HappyCampr1 wrote: »Boy am I glad I never post links or claim I have all the answers. But, as someone who does read a lot of the forum posts, I can tell you this is the way it goes for me.... Person A posts a "truth". Person B doesn't agree and says so. Person A takes exception and posts a link purportedly backing their claim. At this point, I assume that any post/link person A has posted will back their claim, otherwise why post it. I've also taken note that others disagree. Now, person B, states why the link is junk, and makes their case, including 3 links of their own. I assume that each of these links will indeed back up what person B is saying. What I get from this whole scenario is that there are studies to say anything you want them to say, and if I'm interested in the truth, I need to research it myself. I would never assume that any link provided in a forum of this type is 100% accurate. I would not expect that there would be Doctors, Physical Therapists, Trainers, PhDs all here to offer me advice for free. I assumed at the beginning that all advice given was simply opinions. If something doesn't sound right, or I have questions, it's my responsibility to find out the answer. I don't think the people expecting citations give the rest of us enough credit for finding out things on our own. I also think that those people who might fall for the horrible gimmick are generally not the type who are going to read the research in the links provided.
That said, I have no objection to people arguing against bad information and calling out the people providing it. Asking for links to back up the claims is a valid idea. I just don't think that expecting anyone who ever expresses an opinion as fact should be expected to provide this information in advance of being challenged. The forums have a way of policing themselves and the "Guidelines" just seemed too militant for an Internet forum that people use for support and ideas. We really aren't expecting perfection here. We're expecting advice and maybe some empathy from people who are going or have gone through the same things we are.
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Yeah I know it can be tough at times. Have some cake, you might feel better.
He said truck not car. Pay attention!!!longtimeterp wrote: »diannethegeek wrote: »I think that science and anecdote can both have a place on these boards. The problem becomes when people confuse one for the other.
yes, or use flawed personal experience as evidence…
Like " i cut all sugar and lost weight; hence, sugar is bad for me and made me gain weight"…no, because you can eat sugar and lose weight …
*shrugs*
if someone experiences something personally, how can it be flawed for them?
Really? For ages I always drove a blue truck and was overweight, but when I got a new white one I had no problem losing weight. True story.
Conclusion, blue vehicles are worse for weight loss.
But I've driven a blue car for a decade and I'm losing! So you must be wrong!
What, I'm supposed to read every detail of the post before bringing in my own conclusions? That's impossible!
awesome! (dammit, I just spilled again... grumble)
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longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »
*Nisbett, R. E., & Masuda, T. (2003). Culture and point of view. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 100, 11163-11175.
2. *Masuda, T. & Nisbett, R. E. (2001). Attending holistically vs. analytically: Comparing the context sensitivity of Japanese and Americans. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 81, 922-934.
3. 2. *Chua, H. F., Boland, J. E., & Nisbett, R. E. (2005). Cultural Variation in eye-movements during scene perception. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 102, 12629-12633.
*Masuda, T., Russell, M. J., Chen, Y. Y., Hioki, K., Caplan, J. B. (2014). N400 incongruity effect in an episodic memory task reveals different strategies for handling irrelevant contextual information for Japanese than European Canadians. Cognitive Neuroscience, 5, 15-25.
*Masuda, T., Wang, H., Ishii, K., & Ito, K. (2012). Do surrounding figures’ emotions affect the judgment of target figure’s emotion?: Comparing the patterns of eye-movement between European-Canadians, Asian-Canadians, Asian International Students, and Japanese. Frontier in Integrative Neuroscience, 6:72. doi: 10.3389/fnint.2012.00072.
*Imada, T., Carlson, S. M., & Itakura, S. (2013). East-West cultural differences in context-sensitivity are evident in early childhood. Developmental Science, 16, 198-208.
(the papers btw are all pretty interesting, I have been reading them for my cultural psychology methods class)
The gym is really pretty interesting, i've been lifting to benefit my fitness. And i've learned a lot more about diet, exercise, and a healthy lifestyle by DOING rather than reading about it. I feel the benefits of barbell lifting and arc training far outweigh the gains of page turning, especially for anything this site is concerned with.
So you don't believe in researching to learn more about and develop your understanding.
Doh'kay....sounds good.
I never said that, i do plenty of research, and i even post study links. However a personal example is that i learned more about fasted cardio by doing it then by reading about how it would eat away at all my muscles for fuel, which it doesn't.
LOL....can I see where you read that? That's the first I've heard that..........ever.
Really? Quick search...
http://www.mensfitness.com/training/build-muscle/should-you-do-cardio-empty-stomach
http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/fasted-cardio-in-the-morning?preview
http://www.t-nation.com/training/fasted-cardio-eats-muscle
I guess that's where our research differs. I don't dig through .com's and blogs...., or I take them with a huge grain of salt.
All of my research shows that you need to seriously deplete your body of energy before it's going to turn to muscle for energy.
Well i wouldn't call a google search and subsequent listing of a few top results from sites deemed somewhat reputable in the fitness community (t-nation, eh, dunno about that place lol) as digging. And for the MAJORITY of people on this site, that's EXACTLY what they do and that's the information they will see. Scholarly databases are not something i assume the general public goes to first for diet and fitness advice, but that's just my opinion.
and that is the exact reason people post the scientific studies you complain about....
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Empathy, lol.longtimeterp wrote: »HappyCampr1 wrote: »Boy am I glad I never post links or claim I have all the answers. But, as someone who does read a lot of the forum posts, I can tell you this is the way it goes for me.... Person A posts a "truth". Person B doesn't agree and says so. Person A takes exception and posts a link purportedly backing their claim. At this point, I assume that any post/link person A has posted will back their claim, otherwise why post it. I've also taken note that others disagree. Now, person B, states why the link is junk, and makes their case, including 3 links of their own. I assume that each of these links will indeed back up what person B is saying. What I get from this whole scenario is that there are studies to say anything you want them to say, and if I'm interested in the truth, I need to research it myself. I would never assume that any link provided in a forum of this type is 100% accurate. I would not expect that there would be Doctors, Physical Therapists, Trainers, PhDs all here to offer me advice for free. I assumed at the beginning that all advice given was simply opinions. If something doesn't sound right, or I have questions, it's my responsibility to find out the answer. I don't think the people expecting citations give the rest of us enough credit for finding out things on our own. I also think that those people who might fall for the horrible gimmick are generally not the type who are going to read the research in the links provided.
That said, I have no objection to people arguing against bad information and calling out the people providing it. Asking for links to back up the claims is a valid idea. I just don't think that expecting anyone who ever expresses an opinion as fact should be expected to provide this information in advance of being challenged. The forums have a way of policing themselves and the "Guidelines" just seemed too militant for an Internet forum that people use for support and ideas. We really aren't expecting perfection here. We're expecting advice and maybe some empathy from people who are going or have gone through the same things we are.
This!
What next, we gonna sit in a circle and sing songs?
None of us are 8 years old.
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longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »
*Nisbett, R. E., & Masuda, T. (2003). Culture and point of view. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 100, 11163-11175.
2. *Masuda, T. & Nisbett, R. E. (2001). Attending holistically vs. analytically: Comparing the context sensitivity of Japanese and Americans. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 81, 922-934.
3. 2. *Chua, H. F., Boland, J. E., & Nisbett, R. E. (2005). Cultural Variation in eye-movements during scene perception. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 102, 12629-12633.
*Masuda, T., Russell, M. J., Chen, Y. Y., Hioki, K., Caplan, J. B. (2014). N400 incongruity effect in an episodic memory task reveals different strategies for handling irrelevant contextual information for Japanese than European Canadians. Cognitive Neuroscience, 5, 15-25.
*Masuda, T., Wang, H., Ishii, K., & Ito, K. (2012). Do surrounding figures’ emotions affect the judgment of target figure’s emotion?: Comparing the patterns of eye-movement between European-Canadians, Asian-Canadians, Asian International Students, and Japanese. Frontier in Integrative Neuroscience, 6:72. doi: 10.3389/fnint.2012.00072.
*Imada, T., Carlson, S. M., & Itakura, S. (2013). East-West cultural differences in context-sensitivity are evident in early childhood. Developmental Science, 16, 198-208.
(the papers btw are all pretty interesting, I have been reading them for my cultural psychology methods class)
The gym is really pretty interesting, i've been lifting to benefit my fitness. And i've learned a lot more about diet, exercise, and a healthy lifestyle by DOING rather than reading about it. I feel the benefits of barbell lifting and arc training far outweigh the gains of page turning, especially for anything this site is concerned with.
So you don't believe in researching to learn more about and develop your understanding.
Doh'kay....sounds good.
I never said that, i do plenty of research, and i even post study links. However a personal example is that i learned more about fasted cardio by doing it then by reading about how it would eat away at all my muscles for fuel, which it doesn't.
LOL....can I see where you read that? That's the first I've heard that..........ever.
Really? Quick search...
http://www.mensfitness.com/training/build-muscle/should-you-do-cardio-empty-stomach
http://www.jimstoppani.com/home/articles/fasted-cardio-in-the-morning?preview
http://www.t-nation.com/training/fasted-cardio-eats-muscle
I guess that's where our research differs. I don't dig through .com's and blogs...., or I take them with a huge grain of salt.
All of my research shows that you need to seriously deplete your body of energy before it's going to turn to muscle for energy.
Well i wouldn't call a google search and subsequent listing of a few top results from sites deemed somewhat reputable in the fitness community (t-nation, eh, dunno about that place lol) as digging. And for the MAJORITY of people on this site, that's EXACTLY what they do and that's the information they will see. Scholarly databases are not something i assume the general public goes to first for diet and fitness advice, but that's just my opinion.
and that is the exact reason people post the scientific studies you complain about....
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All well said, but particularly the bolded.HappyCampr1 wrote: »Boy am I glad I never post links or claim I have all the answers. But, as someone who does read a lot of the forum posts, I can tell you this is the way it goes for me.... Person A posts a "truth". Person B doesn't agree and says so. Person A takes exception and posts a link purportedly backing their claim. At this point, I assume that any post/link person A has posted will back their claim, otherwise why post it. I've also taken note that others disagree. Now, person B, states why the link is junk, and makes their case, including 3 links of their own. I assume that each of these links will indeed back up what person B is saying. What I get from this whole scenario is that there are studies to say anything you want them to say, and if I'm interested in the truth, I need to research it myself. I would never assume that any link provided in a forum of this type is 100% accurate. I would not expect that there would be Doctors, Physical Therapists, Trainers, PhDs all here to offer me advice for free. I assumed at the beginning that all advice given was simply opinions. If something doesn't sound right, or I have questions, it's my responsibility to find out the answer. I don't think the people expecting citations give the rest of us enough credit for finding out things on our own. I also think that those people who might fall for the horrible gimmick are generally not the type who are going to read the research in the links provided.
That said, I have no objection to people arguing against bad information and calling out the people providing it. Asking for links to back up the claims is a valid idea. I just don't think that expecting anyone who ever expresses an opinion as fact should be expected to provide this information in advance of being challenged. The forums have a way of policing themselves and the "Guidelines" just seemed too militant for an Internet forum that people use for support and ideas. We really aren't expecting perfection here. We're expecting advice and maybe some empathy from people who are going or have gone through the same things we are.
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Maybe you could make a thread-- "Guide to when to let it go."WalkingAlong wrote: »
And if the person told you 3 books they read about the studies in? Does that suffice or do you need them to make it so you don't have to leave your chair or even your MFP tab?if you claim that research shows that IF can reduce the rate of cancer, you should provide that research.
If someone told me studies suggest "x diet habits may have y benefits" I might politely ask where they heard that but I think even before that I'd just google it myself.
just...let...it...go...
for realz....
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WalkingAlong wrote: »
Maybe you could make a thread-- "Guide to when to let it go."WalkingAlong wrote: »
And if the person told you 3 books they read about the studies in? Does that suffice or do you need them to make it so you don't have to leave your chair or even your MFP tab?if you claim that research shows that IF can reduce the rate of cancer, you should provide that research.
If someone told me studies suggest "x diet habits may have y benefits" I might politely ask where they heard that but I think even before that I'd just google it myself.
just...let...it...go...
for realz....
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Empathy, lol.longtimeterp wrote: »HappyCampr1 wrote: »Boy am I glad I never post links or claim I have all the answers. But, as someone who does read a lot of the forum posts, I can tell you this is the way it goes for me.... Person A posts a "truth". Person B doesn't agree and says so. Person A takes exception and posts a link purportedly backing their claim. At this point, I assume that any post/link person A has posted will back their claim, otherwise why post it. I've also taken note that others disagree. Now, person B, states why the link is junk, and makes their case, including 3 links of their own. I assume that each of these links will indeed back up what person B is saying. What I get from this whole scenario is that there are studies to say anything you want them to say, and if I'm interested in the truth, I need to research it myself. I would never assume that any link provided in a forum of this type is 100% accurate. I would not expect that there would be Doctors, Physical Therapists, Trainers, PhDs all here to offer me advice for free. I assumed at the beginning that all advice given was simply opinions. If something doesn't sound right, or I have questions, it's my responsibility to find out the answer. I don't think the people expecting citations give the rest of us enough credit for finding out things on our own. I also think that those people who might fall for the horrible gimmick are generally not the type who are going to read the research in the links provided.
That said, I have no objection to people arguing against bad information and calling out the people providing it. Asking for links to back up the claims is a valid idea. I just don't think that expecting anyone who ever expresses an opinion as fact should be expected to provide this information in advance of being challenged. The forums have a way of policing themselves and the "Guidelines" just seemed too militant for an Internet forum that people use for support and ideas. We really aren't expecting perfection here. We're expecting advice and maybe some empathy from people who are going or have gone through the same things we are.
This!
What next, we gonna sit in a circle and sing songs?
None of us are 8 years old.
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longtimeterp wrote: »
*Nisbett, R. E., & Masuda, T. (2003). Culture and point of view. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 100, 11163-11175.
2. *Masuda, T. & Nisbett, R. E. (2001). Attending holistically vs. analytically: Comparing the context sensitivity of Japanese and Americans. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 81, 922-934.
3. 2. *Chua, H. F., Boland, J. E., & Nisbett, R. E. (2005). Cultural Variation in eye-movements during scene perception. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 102, 12629-12633.
*Masuda, T., Russell, M. J., Chen, Y. Y., Hioki, K., Caplan, J. B. (2014). N400 incongruity effect in an episodic memory task reveals different strategies for handling irrelevant contextual information for Japanese than European Canadians. Cognitive Neuroscience, 5, 15-25.
*Masuda, T., Wang, H., Ishii, K., & Ito, K. (2012). Do surrounding figures’ emotions affect the judgment of target figure’s emotion?: Comparing the patterns of eye-movement between European-Canadians, Asian-Canadians, Asian International Students, and Japanese. Frontier in Integrative Neuroscience, 6:72. doi: 10.3389/fnint.2012.00072.
*Imada, T., Carlson, S. M., & Itakura, S. (2013). East-West cultural differences in context-sensitivity are evident in early childhood. Developmental Science, 16, 198-208.
(the papers btw are all pretty interesting, I have been reading them for my cultural psychology methods class)
The gym is really pretty interesting, i've been lifting to benefit my fitness. And i've learned a lot more about diet, exercise, and a healthy lifestyle by DOING rather than reading about it. I feel the benefits of barbell lifting and arc training far outweigh the gains of page turning, especially for anything this site is concerned with.
So? Research exists for a reason, to further improve society's knowledge and understanding of topics. I clearly have experience with my own north american viewpoints, but reading research on it and how it differs in cultures gave me knowledge I was unaware of and even helped me better understand the knowledge I WAS aware of.
If you don't want to read research, okay. I'd assume you'll also not make any "research shows" comments, which is fine. If I wanted to make a "research shows" comment about ANY topic, I'd back it up with said research because a) it's just common sense to do so, and b) it allows others to read the information for themselves.
Also, for all you know there are some AMAZING papers going into the intricacies of weight lifting with barbells vs freeweights demonstrating benefits of one over the other or how they are the same. Or benefits of certain rest periods, or breathing while lifting, or nutrition before and after, etc. All of these things, if one was interested in improving their gym performance, might be willing to read said papers and thus would appreciate someone posting the links/information.0 -
ThePhoenixIsRising wrote: »What if you read something at some point and acted on it in your life. You don't remember where you got the original idea but have the anecdotal experience to share. Can you say you read such and such and your experience was A,B,C, or do you have to leave out the fact that the idea came from another source since you can't produce the source?
You could do whatever. Personally I would say "so I remember reading a paper about how chocolate enhances sex drive, so I was like 'okay I'll give it a shot' and it totally worked for me! So I've been eating chocolate regularly, and I do notice that when I don't eat it I tend to have a lower sex drive. Of course, this is totally my own experience, and I unfortunately don't remember the article itself." After which I might actually try looking for it (it's uusally not hard finding the paper again, ime) or might ask if others want to help me find the paper.
But I wouldn't just say "research shows chocolate does this and this is why I do it." I'd be sure to say that it influenced my choices and that my anecdotal experience seems to fall in line with the findings, and then indicate that I cannot find or do not remember the paper. If someone asked me to find it I'd either say I don't have time and ask if they want to look for some papers and post titles so that I can skim abstracts and see if they look familiar, or I'd be like "yeah I can Google in a bit"0 -
longtimeterp wrote: »
Empathy, lol.longtimeterp wrote: »HappyCampr1 wrote: »Boy am I glad I never post links or claim I have all the answers. But, as someone who does read a lot of the forum posts, I can tell you this is the way it goes for me.... Person A posts a "truth". Person B doesn't agree and says so. Person A takes exception and posts a link purportedly backing their claim. At this point, I assume that any post/link person A has posted will back their claim, otherwise why post it. I've also taken note that others disagree. Now, person B, states why the link is junk, and makes their case, including 3 links of their own. I assume that each of these links will indeed back up what person B is saying. What I get from this whole scenario is that there are studies to say anything you want them to say, and if I'm interested in the truth, I need to research it myself. I would never assume that any link provided in a forum of this type is 100% accurate. I would not expect that there would be Doctors, Physical Therapists, Trainers, PhDs all here to offer me advice for free. I assumed at the beginning that all advice given was simply opinions. If something doesn't sound right, or I have questions, it's my responsibility to find out the answer. I don't think the people expecting citations give the rest of us enough credit for finding out things on our own. I also think that those people who might fall for the horrible gimmick are generally not the type who are going to read the research in the links provided.
That said, I have no objection to people arguing against bad information and calling out the people providing it. Asking for links to back up the claims is a valid idea. I just don't think that expecting anyone who ever expresses an opinion as fact should be expected to provide this information in advance of being challenged. The forums have a way of policing themselves and the "Guidelines" just seemed too militant for an Internet forum that people use for support and ideas. We really aren't expecting perfection here. We're expecting advice and maybe some empathy from people who are going or have gone through the same things we are.
This!
What next, we gonna sit in a circle and sing songs?
None of us are 8 years old.
hahaha, well done.0 -
ithrowconfetti wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »Since everyone is here for advice and support on whatever their weight or body composition goals are, i feel it very important to know about actual real life instances and what may or may not have worked for people. If there was not a scientific study done on how you were successful, it's totally okay to provide an opinion of what works best for you. Ultimately what works for some people may or may not work for others, and if we all knew the secret none of us would be on this site. Continuing to provide personal and anecdotal evidence provides real life example and servesas a very positive motivator for many of us. And also because sometimes Lifes, not just Sciences. But always Maths!
OP, I think the issue is that claims are valid, when backed by scientific studies, (which, on this site to be credible, usually involve human subjects). It's up to the reader to be discerning of what studies he/she choose to believe, take away from each study, and then determine how that can affect his/her lifestyle. Of course, opinions are welcome, but not every opinion can be made a valid claim for others to follow.ithrowconfetti wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »Since everyone is here for advice and support on whatever their weight or body composition goals are, i feel it very important to know about actual real life instances and what may or may not have worked for people. If there was not a scientific study done on how you were successful, it's totally okay to provide an opinion of what works best for you. Ultimately what works for some people may or may not work for others, and if we all knew the secret none of us would be on this site. Continuing to provide personal and anecdotal evidence provides real life example and servesas a very positive motivator for many of us. And also because sometimes Lifes, not just Sciences. But always Maths!
OP, I think the issue is that claims are valid, when backed by scientific studies, (which, on this site to be credible, usually involve human subjects). It's up to the reader to be discerning of what studies he/she choose to believe, take away from each study, and then determine how that can affect his/her lifestyle. Of course, opinions are welcome, but not every opinion can be made a valid claim for others to follow.
Speak for yourself.longtimeterp wrote: »The funniest thing is, when that thread started, i agreed...having recently acquired a graduate degree, i understand it is important to provide support. However when it changed into a "support your post with research, your opinion and advice is useless, we only care about what a scientific study said" i quickly changed sides.
i've actually posted a few studies today when my thoughts were questioned (a nice term for the attitude of some on the forums). They can be useful. But so is what works for someone that has lost 100 lbs, as i place a lot more value on that opinion that a research paper, especially since much like statistics, you can find research supporting almost any claim.
There is a fundamental flaw with that position, especially with weight loss. Anecdotes about short-term weight are extremely limited in usefulness. HCG "diets" are the classic example. Someone who follows an HCG protocol WILL lose weight initially--sometimes a substantial amount. Yet that weight loss is accompanied by a worsening of body composition and about a 95+% future failures rate. In that case, the "success" story and "real world" advice about something that "worked for them" would be misleading and potentially harmful. Someone with a cursory knowledge of research and academic nutritional fundamentals would know that from the start.
The fact that any weight loss strategy has to have a minimum 1-2 year length of success before it is worth even acknowledging.
Real-life experience should not be dismissed out of hand, but it needs to be remembered that anecdotal stories are the primary tools of the grifters and scam artists so prevalent in the fitness industry.0 -
longtimeterp wrote: »longtimeterp wrote: »
*Nisbett, R. E., & Masuda, T. (2003). Culture and point of view. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 100, 11163-11175.
2. *Masuda, T. & Nisbett, R. E. (2001). Attending holistically vs. analytically: Comparing the context sensitivity of Japanese and Americans. Journal of Personality and Social Psychology, 81, 922-934.
3. 2. *Chua, H. F., Boland, J. E., & Nisbett, R. E. (2005). Cultural Variation in eye-movements during scene perception. Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences of the United States of America, 102, 12629-12633.
*Masuda, T., Russell, M. J., Chen, Y. Y., Hioki, K., Caplan, J. B. (2014). N400 incongruity effect in an episodic memory task reveals different strategies for handling irrelevant contextual information for Japanese than European Canadians. Cognitive Neuroscience, 5, 15-25.
*Masuda, T., Wang, H., Ishii, K., & Ito, K. (2012). Do surrounding figures’ emotions affect the judgment of target figure’s emotion?: Comparing the patterns of eye-movement between European-Canadians, Asian-Canadians, Asian International Students, and Japanese. Frontier in Integrative Neuroscience, 6:72. doi: 10.3389/fnint.2012.00072.
*Imada, T., Carlson, S. M., & Itakura, S. (2013). East-West cultural differences in context-sensitivity are evident in early childhood. Developmental Science, 16, 198-208.
(the papers btw are all pretty interesting, I have been reading them for my cultural psychology methods class)
The gym is really pretty interesting, i've been lifting to benefit my fitness. And i've learned a lot more about diet, exercise, and a healthy lifestyle by DOING rather than reading about it. I feel the benefits of barbell lifting and arc training far outweigh the gains of page turning, especially for anything this site is concerned with.
So you don't believe in researching to learn more about and develop your understanding.
Doh'kay....sounds good.
I never said that, i do plenty of research, and i even post study links. However a personal example is that i learned more about fasted cardio by doing it then by reading about how it would eat away at all my muscles for fuel, which it doesn't.
Without research, there is no way to "learn" anything useful about "fasted cardio" from "doing it". This example is the epitome of how "evidence" based on "experience" can lead you down a rabbit hole.0 -
Lol. That's funny.WalkingAlong wrote: »
Maybe you could make a thread-- "Guide to when to let it go."WalkingAlong wrote: »
And if the person told you 3 books they read about the studies in? Does that suffice or do you need them to make it so you don't have to leave your chair or even your MFP tab?if you claim that research shows that IF can reduce the rate of cancer, you should provide that research.
If someone told me studies suggest "x diet habits may have y benefits" I might politely ask where they heard that but I think even before that I'd just google it myself.
just...let...it...go...
for realz....
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