What's your biggest weight loss / fitness pet peeve?

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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Back on topic:

    When the guy curling in the squat rack is twice your size and mean looking.
  • Merkavar
    Merkavar Posts: 3,082 Member
    when the music at the gym is taylor swift or one direction and the tv remote is locked in the staff room and they have all gone home for the day.

    people who go on some extreme diet and then wonder why they cant keep to it for more than a week.

  • My pet peeve is when people who are not on a weightloss journey or who don't eat healthy criticize or comment on the healthy choices you make... Dude, just keep it to yourself or tell me I'm doing great, don't try and bring me down!

  • This is one of mine! Someone's decision to not work out and eat what ever they want some how gives them the right to judge me or my decision to become healthy?? If you need to put me down to justify your choices there is something wrong!
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    chadya07 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    cdez80421 wrote: »
    People saying "muscle weighs more than fat" grrrr... :neutral_face:

    Wait, why does this bother you? I mean, it's true.
    Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.

    When people say this, they really mean "By volume, muscle weighs more than fat". Meaning that 1 cm^3 of muscle weighs more than 1 cm^3 of fat. Which IS true. People just drop off those first two words.
    and the omission makes them look stupid.

    Like people who believe the earth is flat.

    Or that climate change is fake because we got snow in winter.

    This is just so lame. It is being overly pedantic. You know what they mean, so STFU about it. it's like some 7th grade kid giggling about someone saying the word breasts. It's just ridiculous.

    The problem is ... that no- not everyone understands this concept. And people overly misuse it so frequently it just makes it worth mentioning when it's used incorrectly.

    Plus- science my friend.

    My pet peeves
    "should you be eating that?" ( I don't get that very often honestly but it still irks me)

    or

    " it's to cold to go to the gym to work out"

    I can't even- what does that even mean? You get in your car- you go inside- you work out.

    you know. i can relate to too hot to work out. when it 101 degrees outside and the gym is not really that air conditioned i will be like... no, we are walking to the water park instead. but cold? i am stuck in my houe all day in the winter i would LOVE to go to the gym, run for an hour, and then tep outside in the frigid air and enjoy the cold. to me the cold is the best time....

    meh- work out takes place over personal comfort- I know when I was in California in the high desert I avoided late afternoon workouts- but sometimes- the manual labor has to be done LOL.

    Although- I'd rather it be hot in a gym than cold- I get to cold between sets. I hate when the bi3tches on the treadmill complain it's to hot and open a door. I'm like are you kidding me!!!!

    Hot for workouts > cold.
  • 0somuchbetter0
    0somuchbetter0 Posts: 1,335 Member
    I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a long time and he remarked on my weight loss. He patted his belly and said "I should do that too, but I like food." It wasn't annoying so much as funny and a little sad. I just laughed and said "I like food too!"
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a long time and he remarked on my weight loss. He patted his belly and said "I should do that too, but I like food." It wasn't annoying so much as funny and a little sad. I just laughed and said "I like food too!"

    That irks me too- it's like people assume b/c you aren't over weight- or you have discipline- you don't like food.

    Being a foodie is NOT an excuse for your shape.... most of us REALLY like food. We just manage it better than other people- but it is a little besmirching when people assume that some how you eat a boring diet and don't care that your food is "bad" or some such assumption.

    Ridiculous. LOL
  • JayRuby84
    JayRuby84 Posts: 557 Member
    The hardest thing for me is having someone frown at me for refusing to eat certain meals or items because they don't fit in my macros. I haven't lost weight by eating every yummy thing that crosses my path. I have to be choosey. I'm not starving myself but making healthy choices.
  • kristen6350
    kristen6350 Posts: 1,094 Member
    I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a long time and he remarked on my weight loss. He patted his belly and said "I should do that too, but I like food." It wasn't annoying so much as funny and a little sad. I just laughed and said "I like food too!"

    I was talking to my Mom about a friend of her's that has some weight related health issues (50ish, about 60 pounds overweight, high blood sugar, high cholesterol, fatty liver, Mom who past away early from diabetes related issues, etc) and they were talking about weight loss. My mom is a lifetime Weight Watcher, I remember her going to meetings when I was about 5. She's always been aware of her weight and health especially after being diagnosed with Breast Cancer 7 years ago.

    So, they were talking about what it takes to lose weight (both of them know what it takes and typically talk the good talk, then go out to a Mexican restaurant and have quesadillas - LOL). The one that really needs to get some weight off if she's gonna live to see 60 says "You are so much more motivated than I am. You know what my problem is, I LOVE FOOD". My Mom actually laughed at her. She said "And you think I don't?" I think she got kinda offended but if that's the reason you CAN'T lose weight you seriously have to get out of your head and look at what the rest of the world deals with. I love food and booze, but I know if I want to feel good and fit into my clothes I have to eat/drink less and savior what I do eat. It is seriously not rocket science.
  • jesiann2014
    jesiann2014 Posts: 521 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    Medilia wrote: »
    Fat activism annoys me - It is one thing to encourage people to be happy with the body they have, it is totally wrong to treat it as if it is healthy.
    Wait until you see the new show on TLC. "My big fat fabulous life."

    All about Fativism.

    Add another reason to the Almighty List of Why I Refuse To Get Cable.

    Can I get an "Amen!" to that!
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    chadya07 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    KnM0107 wrote: »

    "I also hate when people who look thinnner than me tell me how horrible they look and that they need to lose weight because they are hideous. people dont even think about how thing like that are not only self depricating which is bad enough but also inulting to me, because if you look bad you are pretty much telling me i am even more hideous."

    How someone feels about their own body has absolutely nothing to do with you...
    Anybody at any size can have body issues and being thinner doesn't make their feelings less important. You being bigger doesn't make your feelings more important.

    I agree with this, but I also know that it's natural to assume that someone who thinks she's disgusting at 110 probably thinks it's more disgusting to be 200, even if she's way more judgmental of herself than she would be of anyone else. I've learned not to be bothered by people's expressions of body insecurity, but the real takeaway for me is to realize that others could be hurt by me going on negatively about my own body, so it's probably rude and a good thing to avoid.

    It's also a good reminder not to do something that I think is unhelpful and negative, and to remind myself that I don't think that way about other people's bodies, so should not about mine. IMO, there often is a connection between how judgmental you are of yourself and the standards you apply to others, though.

    I once had a friend who was slim and athletic say to myself and another overweight woman that she couldn't possibly go to the beach because she had gained five pounds and would be embarrassed to put on a bathing suit, people would think it was disgusting. I asked if she walked along the beach thinking that about other people and she said "Yes, of course!"

    Perhaps what she meant was that she couldn't possibly go to the beach with us, but I still choose to believe she had some real issues.

    True. And I have female relatives who make statements like that about themselves as a way to shame others. So when someone says that about themselves, I've been hard-wired to think it's a passive-aggressive slight. Whether you mean it that way or not, I assume you're negging me.

    As to the mens sizing, let me assure you that a size 32"32" does not mean the same thing from brand to brand. Vanity sizing is alive and well in the mens department too.

    When I say that I feel like the ugliest, fattest most unattractive hambeast on the beach - i don't consider others who may weigh more than me to be worse. I don't even think about them. IM the worst, because im the one that has to live in my body. The only thing I really notice on other people is - ooh that pattern is cute, or I wish I could wear that kind of suit, or I wonder if I could get away with that yet. The only time I judge someone's appearance is when they are immodest by my standards and it's not like I'd tell them lol. Other than this, I am too distracted by my own imperfections.

    I dont judge others harder than i judge myself. Im a pushover when it comes to other people. The criticizing voice in my head is a skinny shrew-like, bony fingered, bible thumping, cold souled apparition of my mother. And she doesn't know anyone else on that beach lol!
    chadya07 wrote: »
    that the thing though. you should. i mean if you are talking to someone, you hould consider how your words would affect them. i mean if you give a crap about them. i am not saying you should care about everyone in the universe all the time. but if you are talking to someone, and something you are saying would be indirectly insulting, even if you are directing it to yourself... you should think about them.

    my original post was about my mom, who gained a lot of weight suddenly, and now she looks like i looked most of the last say 15 years... she repeatedly tells me she is hideous and horrible, and all i can think is... you have seen me my whole life, i looked almost exactly like you. how can you stand here and tell me you are hideous, and not realize you are telling me that i looked hideous for years.

    but it is exactly what you are saying. "i dont even think about them" and "distracted by my own imperfections" and i dont think this has nothing to do with me, if i am part of the conversation. it is a pet peeve of mine that people are careless with their words when putting themsleves down. people SHOULD think of who they are talking to before they open their mouths, otherwise they are not talking to you at all, just bouncing their words off someone whos feelings dont matter.

    the funny thing is... over thanksgiving i finally got tired of it and told her how i felt when she said things like that... and she said "but i always thought your were beautiful even when you were bigger" and i said then why cant you feel that about yourself?

    its all very complicated though..with moms...

    you know what - you are 100 percent right.

    those of us that are not overweight, even if we see ourselves as horribly ugly monsters in our own minds long after we lost the weight, have absolutely no right to lean on our friends and family unless they are smaller than us.

    If we need to lose less weight than the person we are speaking with, we can't vent about frustration with our own bodies or our own hang-ups.

    If we are struggling with self-worth and self-consciousness, we should ONLY find someone skinny and/or fit to complain to.

    Because unless we are very overweight, any of our own personal issues are nothing more than a creative way to go about finding new means of insulting the people we love who weigh more than us. It doesn't matter if we are sisters or best friends. Sisters and Best Friends are -N O T- the people we should lean on when we are frustrated or depressed. Only look for fit people.

    AND if we are ever in a situation where a beloved family member or friend who is smaller than we are, starts talking about how they feel they are fat or hideous - we should remember that this is actually a comment about our body and not theirs. What they are saying, in all actuality, is that we are even worse than them.

    Did I get it right?

    If im smaller than my friends, I don't get to talk about my health and fitness? Cool.

    Okay, I think it depends how and to whom you talk about it. The normative "fat talk" as in "Does my butt look fat in this?" "I'm so gross", etc., not cool, not good for any one, and yes, hard to listen to when you have a significant weight problem.

    If you truly struggle with your body image and want support from someone close, that's a different story. Reach out, but be mindful of the other person. Something like, "I'd really like some help because I am really struggling with negative thoughts about my body"

    this is what I was talking about. I was saying how, when Im alone at the beach, Im not judging anyone because all I can see is how awful I look and I don't think ANYONE looks worse - and I was told that those thoughts in my head are inconsiderate to the people around me, because how I look at myself, even when not comparing to them, is inconsiderate and means I dont give a crap about other people.

    The thread is too long to go back to it now, but my memory is that the genesis of this discussion is about someone going on to her fatter friend or daughter or sister (although I'd amend it to anyone else) about how monstrously fat she is and how anyone looking at her would want to vomit and how gross fat is, etc., and the fat friend/sister/daughter feeling bad and judged and then various people (including you?) jumping in and saying it's not about you, how dare you not sympathize with the thinner person feeling bad.

    IMO, the speaker in that scenario (the thinner complainer) was being rude, and it's not about the other being fatter (although that does make it more obviously thoughtless), and it's not less rude if you are insecure. Among other reasons, it's not less rude if your friend is average weight or thinner than you either, maybe she's also insecure and just less prone to talk about (lots of people are insecure, after all). To say that your feeling bad about yourself gives you a free pass to ignore her feelings would be wrong and inconsiderate.

    Obviously, however, thinking stuff to yourself isn't the issue, and I don't think anyone raised that.

    But, in fact, I do think that people inclined to be quite judgmental with themselves about their bodies also tend to be focused on the bodies of others as something to be critical of. If you don't feel compelled to say that, I don't think it's rude (nor do I care), and I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have noticed it to be true. (Similarly, people who think it's important to dress well often are more apt to notice or be bothered by people who are slobs in their fashion choices, people who keep their houses really clean, are more likely to judge other's housekeeping, etc.) If you don't think it's terrible to have an imperfect body, that's something to take to heart with respect to yourself, though.

    this is yes what i meant. i like to think of it this way.

    if i wouldnt say something about a random strangers looks... like if a larger person walked past me and a friend... i wouldnt turn to my friend and say what a fat cow. because it would be rude. and i dont talk about people like that. and if my friend has extra weight even worse because of course she/he will think i think the same about them.

    so why would i say it to my friend about myelf. "i am a fat cow" it is equally rude.

    and really it does nobody any good anyway. if you want to talk to me about your weight or mine i am happy to talk about it in a constructive way without any fat shaming of either yourself or someone else... its not about not talking about problems. its about talking about problems without shaming people.


    sometimes a dear friend's problem is that she shames herself because she feels she has no worth whatsoever because of where her experiences in life have landed her, sometimes shaming yourself out loud is a cry for help, even if passive aggressively done. If she feels she can't talk to her best friend about her struggles because her best friend is too sensitive about her own weight - how are they being friends other than in name?
  • 0somuchbetter0
    0somuchbetter0 Posts: 1,335 Member
    edited December 2014
    JoRocka wrote: »
    I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a long time and he remarked on my weight loss. He patted his belly and said "I should do that too, but I like food." It wasn't annoying so much as funny and a little sad. I just laughed and said "I like food too!"

    That irks me too- it's like people assume b/c you aren't over weight- or you have discipline- you don't like food.

    Being a foodie is NOT an excuse for your shape.... most of us REALLY like food. We just manage it better than other people- but it is a little besmirching when people assume that some how you eat a boring diet and don't care that your food is "bad" or some such assumption.

    Ridiculous. LOL

    I do love good food...and good wine...and I'm a good cook, to boot.

    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    I ran into someone I hadn't seen in a long time and he remarked on my weight loss. He patted his belly and said "I should do that too, but I like food." It wasn't annoying so much as funny and a little sad. I just laughed and said "I like food too!"

    That irks me too- it's like people assume b/c you aren't over weight- or you have discipline- you don't like food.

    Being a foodie is NOT an excuse for your shape.... most of us REALLY like food. We just manage it better than other people- but it is a little besmirching when people assume that some how you eat a boring diet and don't care that your food is "bad" or some such assumption.

    Ridiculous. LOL

    I do love good food...and good wine...and I'm a good cook, to boot.

    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    oh wow- that was douchey.

    Good on you for your hard work!!!
  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »

    Poster stated that a pound of feathers is lighter than a pound of lead, and that it's perfectly valid.

    Where I come from, that's called stupid. However, now that I live in the pac northwest, I'll go with it.

    Bigfoot is real.

    No, you're just taking what you want from what was said. Their point was that if I say "Lead weighs more than feathers" you wouldn't fuss about "only by volume!" It's beyond obvious that a pound of feathers will have much greater volume than a pound of lead and that equal amounts of the two, by volume, will not weigh the same.

    To say, "Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because a pound of muscle and a pound of fat weigh the same" is indeed a true statement. However, it's also so blatantly obvious and so incredibly far away from the point of "muscle weighs more than fat" that it makes you sound ridiculously silly.
    You're completely right, a pound of lead weighs more than a pound feathers. Thanks for educating me. gg. gj.
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  • dbmata
    dbmata Posts: 12,950 Member
    She turned me in to a newt!
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
    Groups of teenagers at the gym who apparently only go there to flex a muscle once every 15 minutes and then sit on all the benches to chat.
  • Mediocrates55
    Mediocrates55 Posts: 326 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    She turned me in to a newt!

    Well I got better....
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Merkavar wrote: »
    when the music at the gym is taylor swift or one direction and the tv remote is locked in the staff room and they have all gone home for the day.

    people who go on some extreme diet and then wonder why they cant keep to it for more than a week.

    WHEN IT'S ADELE....

    I go to the gym to improve my health and my life and I gotta hear some woman crying because there is no reason to live if you don't have the man you want when you want him and the rain aint flammable and in the UK Im pretty sure that chasing pavement means working the street, in some circles.

  • Mediocrates55
    Mediocrates55 Posts: 326 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    Merkavar wrote: »
    when the music at the gym is taylor swift or one direction and the tv remote is locked in the staff room and they have all gone home for the day.

    people who go on some extreme diet and then wonder why they cant keep to it for more than a week.

    WHEN IT'S ADELE....

    I go to the gym to improve my health and my life and I gotta hear some woman crying because there is no reason to live if you don't have the man you want when you want him and the rain aint flammable and in the UK Im pretty sure that chasing pavement means working the street, in some circles.
    Best. Evar.
    I <3 my earbuds. I'll cancel a workout if I forget them, the gym plays such heinous stuff. Fridays is hair metal. Not even kidding.
  • Mycophilia
    Mycophilia Posts: 1,225 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    Merkavar wrote: »
    when the music at the gym is taylor swift or one direction and the tv remote is locked in the staff room and they have all gone home for the day.

    people who go on some extreme diet and then wonder why they cant keep to it for more than a week.

    WHEN IT'S ADELE....

    I go to the gym to improve my health and my life and I gotta hear some woman crying because there is no reason to live if you don't have the man you want when you want him and the rain aint flammable and in the UK Im pretty sure that chasing pavement means working the street, in some circles.
    Best. Evar.
    I <3 my earbuds. I'll cancel a workout if I forget them, the gym plays such heinous stuff. Fridays is hair metal. Not even kidding.

    At my gym I swear they seem to have Darude - Sandstorm, Marilyn Manson - Fight song and Nikki Minaj - Anaconda on repeat.
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!



  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »

    No, you're just taking what you want from what was said. Their point was that if I say "Lead weighs more than feathers" you wouldn't fuss about "only by volume!" It's beyond obvious that a pound of feathers will have much greater volume than a pound of lead and that equal amounts of the two, by volume, will not weigh the same.

    To say, "Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because a pound of muscle and a pound of fat weigh the same" is indeed a true statement. However, it's also so blatantly obvious and so incredibly far away from the point of "muscle weighs more than fat" that it makes you sound ridiculously silly.
    You're completely right, a pound of lead weighs more than a pound feathers. Thanks for educating me.

    Again, no one has made that claim.
    If you have an intelligent response, make it known. Otherwise, making false claims about what we're saying only delegitimizes your own argument.
  • dym123
    dym123 Posts: 1,670 Member
    My pet peeve about the whole fat vs. muscle debate is when people use it to justify their weight. Having lunch with a friend, we were talking about how hard it is to keep weight down at our advanced age, then she says "but muscle weighs more than fat, right?" This from someone that doesn't lift, doesn't even do body weight exercises. How do you respond to that?
  • ukaryote
    ukaryote Posts: 874 Member
    edited December 2014
    1. Yummly
    2. Superfood
    3. Blast Fat (lard all over the wall? Eeew)
    4. Women's mags with both brownies on the cover and "How to lose 10 pounds!"
    5. Yummly
    6. Any women's mag. They all have photoshopped models
    7. Any men's bodybuilding mag. They encourage steroid drug use.

    Quotes:
    1. "Anyone can do it" (darn, mentioned on the first page)
    2. "All you have to do is..."
    3. "It's easy"
    4. "Yes, you can bulk up" (Like that? I don't THINK so without 'roids)
    5. "Start with pull ups and push ups" (EVERYONE can do this, right?)
    6. "Lose tummy fat" along with spot reducing
    7. "It's because you don't want to"

    This whole thing is a psychological issue and is usually treated like a toy project. Head work is not easy and is usually stigmatized or thought to be trivial.

    I am not including those few people that truly have genetic predisposition or meds that cause weight gain.
  • 0somuchbetter0
    0somuchbetter0 Posts: 1,335 Member
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!



    That was a great blog post!
  • tracie_minus100
    tracie_minus100 Posts: 465 Member
    edited December 2014
    Francl27 wrote: »
    Yakelmeyer wrote: »
    People who hold themselves up on the stair master putting all the weight into their arms and none in their legs.

    Haha there's that woman at the gym who's always running while holding for deal life to the treadmill bars next to her. WTF? I swear every time I go there, at least half the people are holding the bar. Makes me shake my head, really. Only assuming that they don't know that you burn way less calories that way, but my gym has free sessions with a personal trainer and it's pretty much the first thing they tell you, so... I don't get it.

    I sometimes have to hold the bars and it's because I have major issues with shin splints. I do everything I'm supposed to do to prevent them but some days I still have some pain, even when just walking. Holding the bars helps with it a lot, so the days they hurt, I hold on.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!

    trolls actually dont bother with the effort that would be needed to go over to someone and ask if they were okay.

    I don't like it when someone assumes what I am and am not capable of in the gym if they don't know me, but asking me if Im okay is just common decency and probably the prelude to smiles and a new gym contact that you can smile and nod at when you arrive. Which is always nice on a crappy day :) seeing someone smile regularly at the gym.

  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »

    No, you're just taking what you want from what was said. Their point was that if I say "Lead weighs more than feathers" you wouldn't fuss about "only by volume!" It's beyond obvious that a pound of feathers will have much greater volume than a pound of lead and that equal amounts of the two, by volume, will not weigh the same.

    To say, "Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because a pound of muscle and a pound of fat weigh the same" is indeed a true statement. However, it's also so blatantly obvious and so incredibly far away from the point of "muscle weighs more than fat" that it makes you sound ridiculously silly.
    You're completely right, a pound of lead weighs more than a pound feathers. Thanks for educating me.

    Again, no one has made that claim.
    If you have an intelligent response, make it known. Otherwise, making false claims about what we're saying only delegitimizes your own argument.

    what you're saying or what you are implying with an assumption that your audience will fill in the rest of your sentence?

  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    Oh, I smiled at her. Bless her heart...
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