What's your biggest weight loss / fitness pet peeve?

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  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    dym123 wrote: »
    My pet peeve about the whole fat vs. muscle debate is when people use it to justify their weight. Having lunch with a friend, we were talking about how hard it is to keep weight down at our advanced age, then she says "but muscle weighs more than fat, right?" This from someone that doesn't lift, doesn't even do body weight exercises. How do you respond to that?

    My circles of people often do this but in a joking manner.
    For instance, Bill says "Man, I need to lose weight. I've gained 20 pounds. I'm up to 230." Fred replies "Wow, you're even heavier than me now. I'm 220." Bill jokes "Yeah, but muscle weighs more than fat right?" Bill and Fred both laugh "Hahahahaaa!"

    As for those who are seriously trying to justify a weight problem by telling themselves that they are only heavy because muscle weighs more than fat (by volume, *wink*), I put this in the same category as people saying "I'm just big boned" when they're carrying around ~40% body fat. Big bones don't block the line of sight to your shoes.
  • justcat206
    justcat206 Posts: 716 Member
    Being judged for being able to hit a buffet. Hard. With glee.

    Haha yes, this! I can totally out-eat most of my female friends. I also have fasting days, but I don't do those socially, so people are horrified when I stuff myself because clearly I'm going to get fat.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    Oh, I smiled at her. Bless her heart...

    does smiling when you are trying not to murder someone for asking about your wellbeing count as a smile tho lol!
  • NoelFigart1
    NoelFigart1 Posts: 1,276 Member
    Darlin' if my thoughts count for more than actions, I expect I should be facing the firing squad by now.

    Fortunately, I think actions are what count.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    well.. in that case... someone asked if you were okay and THAT is what matters, not their intentions or motives behind asking ;)
  • ketorach
    ketorach Posts: 430 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!

    trolls actually dont bother with the effort that would be needed to go over to someone and ask if they were okay.
    When I was 8 months pregnant, I had two different instructors/trainers tell me that I couldn't do something:

    1. In step class, the instructor pulled me aside and said, "I'd feel much more comfortable if you would stay off the step." *kitten*, please. I've been doing this class for years and I'm not even using the risers!

    2. A trainer told me that I should not be running on the treadmill in that condition. Was worried about my heart rate. Dude, I'm wearing a heart rate monitor. Why don't you just worry about yourself?

    Ugh.


  • gamesandgains
    gamesandgains Posts: 640 Member
    ppl who want and ask for advice and don't use it.
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    ketorach wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!

    trolls actually dont bother with the effort that would be needed to go over to someone and ask if they were okay.
    When I was 8 months pregnant, I had two different instructors/trainers tell me that I couldn't do something:

    1. In step class, the instructor pulled me aside and said, "I'd feel much more comfortable if you would stay off the step." *kitten*, please. I've been doing this class for years and I'm not even using the risers!

    2. A trainer told me that I should not be running on the treadmill in that condition. Was worried about my heart rate. Dude, I'm wearing a heart rate monitor. Why don't you just worry about yourself?

    Ugh.


    I disagree with this 100%

    Instructors don't troll clients.

    People who show concern for 8 month pregnant people doing a high impact step aerobics class, aren't being *****es. They are concerned and may have never been pregnant and therefore don't know what you can and can't do, and they also do not know you personally - so they may not know that you can handle it just fine. Although, if they have seen your face every day for years, I do not know why they wouldn't have spoken to you about this earlier in your term, or why they wouldnt know already that you do this class constantly?

    But in many instances, if an instructor sees an unfamiliar face, and they have special medical circumstances, ie being super pregnant, they are well within their rights (and possibly preventing legal liabilities) to speak with the person about whether or not they can handle a workout. In fact, it would be negligent not to do so.

  • ketorach
    ketorach Posts: 430 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    ketorach wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!

    trolls actually dont bother with the effort that would be needed to go over to someone and ask if they were okay.
    When I was 8 months pregnant, I had two different instructors/trainers tell me that I couldn't do something:

    1. In step class, the instructor pulled me aside and said, "I'd feel much more comfortable if you would stay off the step." *kitten*, please. I've been doing this class for years and I'm not even using the risers!

    2. A trainer told me that I should not be running on the treadmill in that condition. Was worried about my heart rate. Dude, I'm wearing a heart rate monitor. Why don't you just worry about yourself?

    Ugh.


    I disagree with this 100%

    Instructors don't troll clients.

    People who show concern for 8 month pregnant people doing a high impact step aerobics class, aren't being *****es. They are concerned and may have never been pregnant and therefore don't know what you can and can't do, and they also do not know you personally - so they may not know that you can handle it just fine. Although, if they have seen your face every day for years, I do not know why they wouldn't have spoken to you about this earlier in your term, or why they wouldnt know already that you do this class constantly?

    But in many instances, if an instructor sees an unfamiliar face, and they have special medical circumstances, ie being super pregnant, they are well within their rights (and possibly preventing legal liabilities) to speak with the person about whether or not they can handle a workout. In fact, it would be negligent not to do so.
    Perhaps, but I was pretty aggravated considering I was working out 3x a week through my whole pregnancy. To be fair, it wasn't my usual instructor. To be more fair, I *was* pregnant, so perhaps I was overly sensitive. :blush:

    Really, though, what 8-months pregnant person could walk into a gym and start running three miles off the couch?


  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    heck i dont know anyone who isnt pregnant that could stand up from the couch and do a 5K without ever having run before. (doesnt mean they dont exist, i just dont know them :P)
  • 970Mikaela1
    970Mikaela1 Posts: 2,013 Member
    cdez80421 wrote: »
    People saying "muscle weighs more than fat" grrrr... :neutral_face:

    Wait, why does this bother you? I mean, it's true.
    Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.

    That's silly, a cup of muscle takes up the same amount of space as a cup of fat. A cup is a cup!

    A cups are awesome.
  • VeryKatie
    VeryKatie Posts: 5,961 Member
    snikkins wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    babyrover wrote: »
    "If your building muscle from working out it's okay that the scale doesn't budge Muscle weighs more than fat" No it doesn't...a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscles or a pound of bricks. It all weighs ONE POUND. Muscle is more dense and takes up less space.

    Never understood why people don't accept "muscle weighs more than fat". We all accept "helium is lighter than air", or "oil is lighter than water" .. the volume being constant is implied in all those. and most people know this. because otherwise, nothing weighs any more than anything else, since a pound of anything weighs the same as a pound of anything else.

    Agreed! Oh my goodness, if you KNOW what the person meant when they said muscle weighs more than fat, why do you correct them? Word police!!!

    (Again I'm a hypocrite here - my nephews all know it's a "concrete truck" not a "cement truck". I'm always like "Well you don't call a cake "flour", now do you!).

    I love myself, I love myself, I love myself :-/ lol.

    HA. Just like my kids know it's not a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni BRAND ice resurfacing machine.

    Ah. But sometimes things like that make it into our accepted, even if technically incorrect, lexicon, like how many people use Kleenex to refer to all tissues. We all have our nuances that annoy us.

    Oh get this one - Zipper is a brand name. So is Velcro.
  • JoRocka
    JoRocka Posts: 17,525 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    babyrover wrote: »
    "If your building muscle from working out it's okay that the scale doesn't budge Muscle weighs more than fat" No it doesn't...a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscles or a pound of bricks. It all weighs ONE POUND. Muscle is more dense and takes up less space.

    Never understood why people don't accept "muscle weighs more than fat". We all accept "helium is lighter than air", or "oil is lighter than water" .. the volume being constant is implied in all those. and most people know this. because otherwise, nothing weighs any more than anything else, since a pound of anything weighs the same as a pound of anything else.

    Agreed! Oh my goodness, if you KNOW what the person meant when they said muscle weighs more than fat, why do you correct them? Word police!!!

    (Again I'm a hypocrite here - my nephews all know it's a "concrete truck" not a "cement truck". I'm always like "Well you don't call a cake "flour", now do you!).

    I love myself, I love myself, I love myself :-/ lol.

    HA. Just like my kids know it's not a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni BRAND ice resurfacing machine.

    Ah. But sometimes things like that make it into our accepted, even if technically incorrect, lexicon, like how many people use Kleenex to refer to all tissues. We all have our nuances that annoy us.

    Oh get this one - Zipper is a brand name. So is Velcro.
    band aide also
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    babyrover wrote: »
    "If your building muscle from working out it's okay that the scale doesn't budge Muscle weighs more than fat" No it doesn't...a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscles or a pound of bricks. It all weighs ONE POUND. Muscle is more dense and takes up less space.

    Never understood why people don't accept "muscle weighs more than fat". We all accept "helium is lighter than air", or "oil is lighter than water" .. the volume being constant is implied in all those. and most people know this. because otherwise, nothing weighs any more than anything else, since a pound of anything weighs the same as a pound of anything else.

    Agreed! Oh my goodness, if you KNOW what the person meant when they said muscle weighs more than fat, why do you correct them? Word police!!!

    (Again I'm a hypocrite here - my nephews all know it's a "concrete truck" not a "cement truck". I'm always like "Well you don't call a cake "flour", now do you!).

    I love myself, I love myself, I love myself :-/ lol.

    HA. Just like my kids know it's not a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni BRAND ice resurfacing machine.

    Ah. But sometimes things like that make it into our accepted, even if technically incorrect, lexicon, like how many people use Kleenex to refer to all tissues. We all have our nuances that annoy us.

    Oh get this one - Zipper is a brand name. So is Velcro.

    and Crayon!
  • sheepotato
    sheepotato Posts: 600 Member
    edited December 2014
    ketorach wrote: »

    When I was 8 months pregnant, I had two different instructors/trainers tell me that I couldn't do something:

    1. In step class, the instructor pulled me aside and said, "I'd feel much more comfortable if you would stay off the step." *kitten*, please. I've been doing this class for years and I'm not even using the risers!

    2. A trainer told me that I should not be running on the treadmill in that condition. Was worried about my heart rate. Dude, I'm wearing a heart rate monitor. Why don't you just worry about yourself?

    Ugh.

    This!

    I know I read so much crap online about not getting your fragile pregnant heart rate above 140 during cardio. So for the first few weeks between finding out and seeing my Obgyn I tried so hard to stay below 140 but I usually surpass that during warm up. Then I get to my doctor and ask her if there's a special pregnancy heart rate range and her exact words were 'Umm, you will be fine. You would know to stop swimming before you die.'

    Even at nearly 33 weeks, I still feel fine as long as I stay below 170. (That's just where I am fitness wise, I'm sure for some women it's higher.) Having a reduced lung capacity keeps pregnant women from being able to overdo it anyway.

  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    JoRocka wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    babyrover wrote: »
    "If your building muscle from working out it's okay that the scale doesn't budge Muscle weighs more than fat" No it doesn't...a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscles or a pound of bricks. It all weighs ONE POUND. Muscle is more dense and takes up less space.

    Never understood why people don't accept "muscle weighs more than fat". We all accept "helium is lighter than air", or "oil is lighter than water" .. the volume being constant is implied in all those. and most people know this. because otherwise, nothing weighs any more than anything else, since a pound of anything weighs the same as a pound of anything else.

    Agreed! Oh my goodness, if you KNOW what the person meant when they said muscle weighs more than fat, why do you correct them? Word police!!!

    (Again I'm a hypocrite here - my nephews all know it's a "concrete truck" not a "cement truck". I'm always like "Well you don't call a cake "flour", now do you!).

    I love myself, I love myself, I love myself :-/ lol.

    HA. Just like my kids know it's not a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni BRAND ice resurfacing machine.

    Ah. But sometimes things like that make it into our accepted, even if technically incorrect, lexicon, like how many people use Kleenex to refer to all tissues. We all have our nuances that annoy us.

    Oh get this one - Zipper is a brand name. So is Velcro.
    band aide also

    And Vaseline,
    Thermos,
    ChapStick,
    Clorox,
    Crock-Pot,
    Frisbee,
    Q-tips,
    Saran Wrap,
    Tupperware...and the list goes on and on and on...
  • Carlos_421
    Carlos_421 Posts: 5,132 Member
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    snikkins wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    VeryKatie wrote: »
    sullus wrote: »
    babyrover wrote: »
    "If your building muscle from working out it's okay that the scale doesn't budge Muscle weighs more than fat" No it doesn't...a pound of fat weighs the same as a pound of muscles or a pound of bricks. It all weighs ONE POUND. Muscle is more dense and takes up less space.

    Never understood why people don't accept "muscle weighs more than fat". We all accept "helium is lighter than air", or "oil is lighter than water" .. the volume being constant is implied in all those. and most people know this. because otherwise, nothing weighs any more than anything else, since a pound of anything weighs the same as a pound of anything else.

    Agreed! Oh my goodness, if you KNOW what the person meant when they said muscle weighs more than fat, why do you correct them? Word police!!!

    (Again I'm a hypocrite here - my nephews all know it's a "concrete truck" not a "cement truck". I'm always like "Well you don't call a cake "flour", now do you!).

    I love myself, I love myself, I love myself :-/ lol.

    HA. Just like my kids know it's not a Zamboni. It's a Zamboni BRAND ice resurfacing machine.

    Ah. But sometimes things like that make it into our accepted, even if technically incorrect, lexicon, like how many people use Kleenex to refer to all tissues. We all have our nuances that annoy us.

    Oh get this one - Zipper is a brand name. So is Velcro.
    band aide also

    And Vaseline,
    Thermos,
    ChapStick,
    Clorox,
    Crock-Pot,
    Frisbee,
    Q-tips,
    Saran Wrap,
    Tupperware...and the list goes on and on and on...

    Should also mention windex and Tylenol.
  • sheepotato
    sheepotato Posts: 600 Member
    edited December 2014
    dbmata wrote: »
    chadya07 wrote: »
    JoRocka wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »
    cdez80421 wrote: »
    People saying "muscle weighs more than fat" grrrr... :neutral_face:

    Wait, why does this bother you? I mean, it's true.
    Its not true,a pound is a pound muscle is just more dense than fat and takes up less space but it all weighs the same.

    When people say this, they really mean "By volume, muscle weighs more than fat". Meaning that 1 cm^3 of muscle weighs more than 1 cm^3 of fat. Which IS true. People just drop off those first two words.
    and the omission makes them look stupid.

    Like people who believe the earth is flat.

    Or that climate change is fake because we got snow in winter.

    This is just so lame. It is being overly pedantic. You know what they mean, so STFU about it. it's like some 7th grade kid giggling about someone saying the word breasts. It's just ridiculous.

    The problem is ... that no- not everyone understands this concept. And people overly misuse it so frequently it just makes it worth mentioning when it's used incorrectly.

    Plus- science my friend.

    My pet peeves
    "should you be eating that?" ( I don't get that very often honestly but it still irks me)

    or

    " it's to cold to go to the gym to work out"

    I can't even- what does that even mean? You get in your car- you go inside- you work out.

    you know. i can relate to too hot to work out. when it 101 degrees outside and the gym is not really that air conditioned i will be like... no, we are walking to the water park instead. but cold? i am stuck in my houe all day in the winter i would LOVE to go to the gym, run for an hour, and then tep outside in the frigid air and enjoy the cold. to me the cold is the best time....

    My god, during the summer, it's impossible to use the dreadmills at the Y because well, no windows, three weak fans... and it's stupid hot outside.

    Yeah I don't get the people that use winter as an excuse. Going to the gym in the summer is miserable, I get sweaty walking to the gym. Then if I want to do cardio I get sandwiched in between two other sweaty people and the only fans are located on the unused row of treadmills. The windows behind us get all fogged up during the summer, that never happens during the winter.

    I find that I prefer hiking in the summer where at least there are trees and the odd breeze, but I don't have time to do that during the week. I love the feeling of the crisp winter air on my face when I leave the gym.
  • uconnwinsnc1
    uconnwinsnc1 Posts: 902 Member
    edited December 2014
    dbmata wrote: »
    Carlos_421 wrote: »
    dbmata wrote: »

    Poster stated that a pound of feathers is lighter than a pound of lead, and that it's perfectly valid.

    Where I come from, that's called stupid. However, now that I live in the pac northwest, I'll go with it.

    Bigfoot is real.

    No, you're just taking what you want from what was said. Their point was that if I say "Lead weighs more than feathers" you wouldn't fuss about "only by volume!" It's beyond obvious that a pound of feathers will have much greater volume than a pound of lead and that equal amounts of the two, by volume, will not weigh the same.

    To say, "Muscle doesn't weigh more than fat because a pound of muscle and a pound of fat weigh the same" is indeed a true statement. However, it's also so blatantly obvious and so incredibly far away from the point of "muscle weighs more than fat" that it makes you sound ridiculously silly.
    You're completely right, a pound of lead weighs more than a pound feathers. Thanks for educating me. gg. gj.

    One pound of gold weighs 373.24 grams but one pound of feathers weighs 453.59 grams. So a pound of feathers weighs more than a pound of gold. But one ounce of gold weighs 31.1 grams and one ounce of feathers weigh 28.35 grams. So one ounce of gold weighs more than one ounce of feathers. ;)

    #troyweighttrolling
  • Phaedra2014
    Phaedra2014 Posts: 1,254 Member
    "I don't have time to work out."

    "I don't have time to prepare my meals."

    Anything involving a lack of time excuse is annoying for me to hear.
  • TomZot
    TomZot Posts: 165 Member
    This...typically at work:

    "Are you supposed to eat that on your diet?"
    My response: "I'm not on a diet."

    Next day: "Are you supposed to eat that on your diet?"
    My response: "I'm not on a diet."

    Repeat.

    They just don't get it...or don't try.

    (facepalm)
  • yoovie
    yoovie Posts: 17,121 Member
    my old boss:

    "IF YOU GET ANOREXIC YOURE FIRED!"
  • stealthq
    stealthq Posts: 4,298 Member
    Francl27 wrote: »
    Yakelmeyer wrote: »
    People who hold themselves up on the stair master putting all the weight into their arms and none in their legs.

    Haha there's that woman at the gym who's always running while holding for deal life to the treadmill bars next to her. WTF? I swear every time I go there, at least half the people are holding the bar. Makes me shake my head, really. Only assuming that they don't know that you burn way less calories that way, but my gym has free sessions with a personal trainer and it's pretty much the first thing they tell you, so... I don't get it.

    I sometimes have to hold the bars and it's because I have major issues with shin splints. I do everything I'm supposed to do to prevent them but some days I still have some pain, even when just walking. Holding the bars helps with it a lot, so the days they hurt, I hold on.

    Risking being labelled a concern troll here, but just want to make sure you're aware that shin splints can be caused by stress fractures (or can be indicative that you're going to develop stress fractures) in case you've never had that checked out.

    If you have, just ignore me and go back to your regularly scheduled program :smile:
  • sofaking6
    sofaking6 Posts: 4,589 Member
    Grrr. My pet peeve is that every time I start making good progress, I get hurt. And also that something ALWAYS hurts, even on my best days. One day without pain, just one....I no has it. (sorry, back went out, having emo feelings)
  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    chadya07 wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    lemurcat12 wrote: »
    KnM0107 wrote: »

    "I also hate when people who look thinnner than me tell me how horrible they look and that they need to lose weight because they are hideous. people dont even think about how thing like that are not only self depricating which is bad enough but also inulting to me, because if you look bad you are pretty much telling me i am even more hideous."

    How someone feels about their own body has absolutely nothing to do with you...
    Anybody at any size can have body issues and being thinner doesn't make their feelings less important. You being bigger doesn't make your feelings more important.

    I agree with this, but I also know that it's natural to assume that someone who thinks she's disgusting at 110 probably thinks it's more disgusting to be 200, even if she's way more judgmental of herself than she would be of anyone else. I've learned not to be bothered by people's expressions of body insecurity, but the real takeaway for me is to realize that others could be hurt by me going on negatively about my own body, so it's probably rude and a good thing to avoid.

    It's also a good reminder not to do something that I think is unhelpful and negative, and to remind myself that I don't think that way about other people's bodies, so should not about mine. IMO, there often is a connection between how judgmental you are of yourself and the standards you apply to others, though.

    I once had a friend who was slim and athletic say to myself and another overweight woman that she couldn't possibly go to the beach because she had gained five pounds and would be embarrassed to put on a bathing suit, people would think it was disgusting. I asked if she walked along the beach thinking that about other people and she said "Yes, of course!"

    Perhaps what she meant was that she couldn't possibly go to the beach with us, but I still choose to believe she had some real issues.

    True. And I have female relatives who make statements like that about themselves as a way to shame others. So when someone says that about themselves, I've been hard-wired to think it's a passive-aggressive slight. Whether you mean it that way or not, I assume you're negging me.

    As to the mens sizing, let me assure you that a size 32"32" does not mean the same thing from brand to brand. Vanity sizing is alive and well in the mens department too.

    When I say that I feel like the ugliest, fattest most unattractive hambeast on the beach - i don't consider others who may weigh more than me to be worse. I don't even think about them. IM the worst, because im the one that has to live in my body. The only thing I really notice on other people is - ooh that pattern is cute, or I wish I could wear that kind of suit, or I wonder if I could get away with that yet. The only time I judge someone's appearance is when they are immodest by my standards and it's not like I'd tell them lol. Other than this, I am too distracted by my own imperfections.

    I dont judge others harder than i judge myself. Im a pushover when it comes to other people. The criticizing voice in my head is a skinny shrew-like, bony fingered, bible thumping, cold souled apparition of my mother. And she doesn't know anyone else on that beach lol!
    chadya07 wrote: »
    that the thing though. you should. i mean if you are talking to someone, you hould consider how your words would affect them. i mean if you give a crap about them. i am not saying you should care about everyone in the universe all the time. but if you are talking to someone, and something you are saying would be indirectly insulting, even if you are directing it to yourself... you should think about them.

    my original post was about my mom, who gained a lot of weight suddenly, and now she looks like i looked most of the last say 15 years... she repeatedly tells me she is hideous and horrible, and all i can think is... you have seen me my whole life, i looked almost exactly like you. how can you stand here and tell me you are hideous, and not realize you are telling me that i looked hideous for years.

    but it is exactly what you are saying. "i dont even think about them" and "distracted by my own imperfections" and i dont think this has nothing to do with me, if i am part of the conversation. it is a pet peeve of mine that people are careless with their words when putting themsleves down. people SHOULD think of who they are talking to before they open their mouths, otherwise they are not talking to you at all, just bouncing their words off someone whos feelings dont matter.

    the funny thing is... over thanksgiving i finally got tired of it and told her how i felt when she said things like that... and she said "but i always thought your were beautiful even when you were bigger" and i said then why cant you feel that about yourself?

    its all very complicated though..with moms...

    you know what - you are 100 percent right.

    those of us that are not overweight, even if we see ourselves as horribly ugly monsters in our own minds long after we lost the weight, have absolutely no right to lean on our friends and family unless they are smaller than us.

    If we need to lose less weight than the person we are speaking with, we can't vent about frustration with our own bodies or our own hang-ups.

    If we are struggling with self-worth and self-consciousness, we should ONLY find someone skinny and/or fit to complain to.

    Because unless we are very overweight, any of our own personal issues are nothing more than a creative way to go about finding new means of insulting the people we love who weigh more than us. It doesn't matter if we are sisters or best friends. Sisters and Best Friends are -N O T- the people we should lean on when we are frustrated or depressed. Only look for fit people.

    AND if we are ever in a situation where a beloved family member or friend who is smaller than we are, starts talking about how they feel they are fat or hideous - we should remember that this is actually a comment about our body and not theirs. What they are saying, in all actuality, is that we are even worse than them.

    Did I get it right?

    If im smaller than my friends, I don't get to talk about my health and fitness? Cool.

    Okay, I think it depends how and to whom you talk about it. The normative "fat talk" as in "Does my butt look fat in this?" "I'm so gross", etc., not cool, not good for any one, and yes, hard to listen to when you have a significant weight problem.

    If you truly struggle with your body image and want support from someone close, that's a different story. Reach out, but be mindful of the other person. Something like, "I'd really like some help because I am really struggling with negative thoughts about my body"

    this is what I was talking about. I was saying how, when Im alone at the beach, Im not judging anyone because all I can see is how awful I look and I don't think ANYONE looks worse - and I was told that those thoughts in my head are inconsiderate to the people around me, because how I look at myself, even when not comparing to them, is inconsiderate and means I dont give a crap about other people.

    The thread is too long to go back to it now, but my memory is that the genesis of this discussion is about someone going on to her fatter friend or daughter or sister (although I'd amend it to anyone else) about how monstrously fat she is and how anyone looking at her would want to vomit and how gross fat is, etc., and the fat friend/sister/daughter feeling bad and judged and then various people (including you?) jumping in and saying it's not about you, how dare you not sympathize with the thinner person feeling bad.

    IMO, the speaker in that scenario (the thinner complainer) was being rude, and it's not about the other being fatter (although that does make it more obviously thoughtless), and it's not less rude if you are insecure. Among other reasons, it's not less rude if your friend is average weight or thinner than you either, maybe she's also insecure and just less prone to talk about (lots of people are insecure, after all). To say that your feeling bad about yourself gives you a free pass to ignore her feelings would be wrong and inconsiderate.

    Obviously, however, thinking stuff to yourself isn't the issue, and I don't think anyone raised that.

    But, in fact, I do think that people inclined to be quite judgmental with themselves about their bodies also tend to be focused on the bodies of others as something to be critical of. If you don't feel compelled to say that, I don't think it's rude (nor do I care), and I'm sure there are exceptions, but I have noticed it to be true. (Similarly, people who think it's important to dress well often are more apt to notice or be bothered by people who are slobs in their fashion choices, people who keep their houses really clean, are more likely to judge other's housekeeping, etc.) If you don't think it's terrible to have an imperfect body, that's something to take to heart with respect to yourself, though.

    this is yes what i meant. i like to think of it this way.

    if i wouldnt say something about a random strangers looks... like if a larger person walked past me and a friend... i wouldnt turn to my friend and say what a fat cow. because it would be rude. and i dont talk about people like that. and if my friend has extra weight even worse because of course she/he will think i think the same about them.

    so why would i say it to my friend about myelf. "i am a fat cow" it is equally rude.

    and really it does nobody any good anyway. if you want to talk to me about your weight or mine i am happy to talk about it in a constructive way without any fat shaming of either yourself or someone else... its not about not talking about problems. its about talking about problems without shaming people.


    sometimes a dear friend's problem is that she shames herself because she feels she has no worth whatsoever because of where her experiences in life have landed her, sometimes shaming yourself out loud is a cry for help, even if passive aggressively done. If she feels she can't talk to her best friend about her struggles because her best friend is too sensitive about her own weight - how are they being friends other than in name?

    Perhaps not for much longer if she keeps up with that BS :bigsmile:
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  • MelodyandBarbells
    MelodyandBarbells Posts: 7,724 Member
    yoovie wrote: »
    ketorach wrote: »
    yoovie wrote: »
    But I get the other type of reaction to my weight too. I'm still fat - 5'3" and 175lbs. I have about 45 lbs to lose. So often times, people who are meeting me for the first time assume I'm just a fat slob who doesn't have a clue. One time I was running at a pretty good clip on the treadmill at the gym (it was nasty cold and wet outside...normally hate the treadmill), and a trainer I'd never met before came up and suggested I slow down because at my weight I could hurt myself. I just laughed at him and increased my speed. a**hole.

    Dear God, save me from concern trolls!

    trolls actually dont bother with the effort that would be needed to go over to someone and ask if they were okay.
    When I was 8 months pregnant, I had two different instructors/trainers tell me that I couldn't do something:

    1. In step class, the instructor pulled me aside and said, "I'd feel much more comfortable if you would stay off the step." *kitten*, please. I've been doing this class for years and I'm not even using the risers!

    2. A trainer told me that I should not be running on the treadmill in that condition. Was worried about my heart rate. Dude, I'm wearing a heart rate monitor. Why don't you just worry about yourself?

    Ugh.


    I disagree with this 100%

    Instructors don't troll clients.

    People who show concern for 8 month pregnant people doing a high impact step aerobics class, aren't being *****es. They are concerned and may have never been pregnant and therefore don't know what you can and can't do, and they also do not know you personally - so they may not know that you can handle it just fine. Although, if they have seen your face every day for years, I do not know why they wouldn't have spoken to you about this earlier in your term, or why they wouldnt know already that you do this class constantly?

    But in many instances, if an instructor sees an unfamiliar face, and they have special medical circumstances, ie being super pregnant, they are well within their rights (and possibly preventing legal liabilities) to speak with the person about whether or not they can handle a workout. In fact, it would be negligent not to do so.

    I would expect a fitness professional to be a bit more educated about pregnancy - it's not a disability and pregnant women are typically okay to continue exercising especially if they were prior to pregnancy. If the class is somehow not designed for pregnant people then the instructor can sort it out before class, in collaboration with any advice the participant may have received from her doctor.

    That said I've been in a yoga-ish class where the pregnant person was given an alternate pose. But then again, my favorite yoga instructors always asked if anyone had injuries or anything that needed special attention
  • Azexas
    Azexas Posts: 4,334 Member
    TomZot wrote: »
    This...typically at work:

    "Are you supposed to eat that on your diet?"
    My response: "I'm not on a diet."

    Next day: "Are you supposed to eat that on your diet?"
    My response: "I'm not on a diet."

    Repeat.

    They just don't get it...or don't try.

    (facepalm)

    We must work at the same place lol
  • Medilia
    Medilia Posts: 230 Member
    dbmata wrote: »
    Wait until you see the new show on TLC. "My big fat fabulous life."

    All about Fativism.

    ....Murica!

    Possibly, the thing that annoys me the most is when people start talking about curves when they are morbidly obese… I mean, yes, I get the whole movement behind it because I was – and still am, a big proponent of the fact that being curvy is something to be proud of (equally to any other body shape you may have) and does not mean you are fat but is just your shapes. However, the original idea has been blown so out of proportion that it is now begin used as an excuse more often than not, it seems to me.

    ETA: Being happy with the body you have is fantastic, I am not making an argument against that. I am making an argument against using a catchphrase such as "real women have curves" to pretend your weight is healthy.

    It is turning into thin shaming these days. Thin women are "Skinny B*****s" or "Bags of bones". And losing weight is giving in to vanity.
  • PennyHartz
    PennyHartz Posts: 49 Member
    I hate it when people ask me how many pounds I've lost. I don't mind "have you lost weight?" But so many times its followed up with "how much have you lost?" I figure most of the time people are trying to do the math to figure out how much I weigh/ used to weigh.
    Also, "are you at your goal yet?" I don't know why this one bugs me, but it does.
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