Doing all the right things but my weight won't budge.
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It was one lady and she wasn't helpful. It's not helpful when someone criticizes your choice of food intake, there are ways communicating with people and offering advice that is no way of doing it. There have been several people that "have" been really helpful and haven't resorted to rudeness. Please allow me to defend myself.Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
Well the jury's still out on that one mate
I know you want it to beAccepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
Well the jury's still out on that one mate
I know you want it to be
No, no it is.
So basically you had anorexia 40 years ago, have recently lost 30kg but suddenly your body's broke? I would say two months should be an excellent time frame to adjust your calories and observe your results
Why did you call the ladies that were trying to troubleshoot your calorie intake rude? It's an iterative process that usually results in finding out which item is being under logged to contribute to your seemingly low calories. By snapping at people you may have turned off others from helping you while your diary was still open
But there's more than one way to skin a cat I'm sure you'll figure things out ultimately
Is it the "seriously?" That threw you off? Only she and like one other person tried to point out potential inaccuracies in your logging while your diary was open. You did get defensive. Maybe I'm missing something but there was no need to do so
At 1300 calories per day net at your weight you should be losing about .8 lb per week. Until proven otherwise, you are most likely consuming more calories than you think somewhere. Either something you're severely under logging, or an item you don't log at all because you may have thought it was 0 cals or very few cals, etc etc...
Yes okay thanks, yes that did throw me off, where I come from it is considered a bit rude say that. I am not consuming more calories than stated, I am not under logging I am exercising for 35 to 45 minutes a most days. And I really don't want to eat less than 1200 cals per day
But, devoid of any medical issue, that is the equation
It is easy to make mistakes with logging food and exercise so you have to adjust it to personal circumstance
The fact you get kind of 'uppity' about it, doesn't mean that people aren't trying to help you
You shouldn't be netting fewer than 1200 calories a day - the issue is there's something off with what you are doing - so adjust it
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It was one lady and she wasn't helpful. It's not helpful when someone criticizes your choice of food intake, there are ways communicating with people and offering advice that is no way of doing it. There have been several people that "have" been really helpful and haven't resorted to rudeness. Please allow me to defend myself.Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
Well the jury's still out on that one mate
I know you want it to beAccepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
Well the jury's still out on that one mate
I know you want it to be
No, no it is.
So basically you had anorexia 40 years ago, have recently lost 30kg but suddenly your body's broke? I would say two months should be an excellent time frame to adjust your calories and observe your results
Why did you call the ladies that were trying to troubleshoot your calorie intake rude? It's an iterative process that usually results in finding out which item is being under logged to contribute to your seemingly low calories. By snapping at people you may have turned off others from helping you while your diary was still open
But there's more than one way to skin a cat I'm sure you'll figure things out ultimately
Is it the "seriously?" That threw you off? Only she and like one other person tried to point out potential inaccuracies in your logging while your diary was open. You did get defensive. Maybe I'm missing something but there was no need to do so
At 1300 calories per day net at your weight you should be losing about .8 lb per week. Until proven otherwise, you are most likely consuming more calories than you think somewhere. Either something you're severely under logging, or an item you don't log at all because you may have thought it was 0 cals or very few cals, etc etc...
Yes okay thanks, yes that did throw me off, where I come from it is considered a bit rude say that. I am not consuming more calories than stated, I am not under logging I am exercising for 35 to 45 minutes a most days. And I really don't want to eat less than 1200 cals per day
But, devoid of any medical issue, that is the equation
It is easy to make mistakes with logging food and exercise so you have to adjust it to personal circumstance
The fact you get kind of 'uppity' about it, doesn't mean that people aren't trying to help you
You shouldn't be netting fewer than 1200 calories a day - the issue is there's something off with what you are doing - so adjust it
Yes..... I have been told I am a bit sensitive and not by you guys either. I haven't participated in a thread before, not making excuses... Thanks
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Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
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Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
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Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
Well the jury's still out
I know you want it to be
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I'm special
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DawnieB1977 wrote: »Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
At her height and weight she could eat more (so long as it's accurately logged). I lost more weight when I increased my calories from 1200 to 1500.
I'm not sure what you've set MFP to lose, but set it for 1lb a week rather than 2lbs, if that's what you've done.
I appreciate weight loss is probably harder in your 50s. I'm 37 and losing weight after my third baby, and it took me until about 6 months post partum for the weight to start dropping off, despite eating well and exercising since my 6 week check. Hormones are funny!
For me, exercise, especially strength training, is what works and helps me lose weight. Also make sure you take measurements as well as stepping on the scales.
I'm not going to argue or debate over a troll but I will say this, eat at an actual deficit, lose weight. That is how it works for everyone. Not eat to little and stop losing weight or gain weight.
Eat to little and yes you can risk losing lbm but you will still lose weight. Put simply, if I locked you in a basement for 1 month and fed you 800 calories, water and a mulit vitamin, you will lose weight. Guaranteed, 100% of the time. Leave someone in the woods for 7 days, lost and stranded, that person will lose weight no matter who they are. Everyone thinks they are special but the truth is that at the end of the day we're all humans.
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Yes, we know you are.I'm special
The question is, who let you out? Did you chew through the ropes again?GiveMeCoffee wrote: »DawnieB1977 wrote: »Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
At her height and weight she could eat more (so long as it's accurately logged). I lost more weight when I increased my calories from 1200 to 1500.
I'm not sure what you've set MFP to lose, but set it for 1lb a week rather than 2lbs, if that's what you've done.
I appreciate weight loss is probably harder in your 50s. I'm 37 and losing weight after my third baby, and it took me until about 6 months post partum for the weight to start dropping off, despite eating well and exercising since my 6 week check. Hormones are funny!
For me, exercise, especially strength training, is what works and helps me lose weight. Also make sure you take measurements as well as stepping on the scales.
I'm not going to argue or debate over a troll but I will say this, eat at an actual deficit, lose weight. That is how it works for everyone. Not eat to little and stop losing weight or gain weight.
Eat to little and yes you can risk losing lbm but you will still lose weight. Put simply, if I locked you in a basement for 1 month and fed you 800 calories, water and a mulit vitamin, you will lose weight. Guaranteed, 100% of the time. Leave someone in the woods for 7 days, lost and stranded, that person will lose weight no matter who they are. Everyone thinks they are special but the truth is that at the end of the day we're all humans.
Are you locking people in the basement again? Can you feed me 800 calories of pizza thanks!
Dawnie, I have a question for you, have you ever seen a contestant participate in the TV show Survivor, make it 25 or 30 days or to the end and come back fatter??
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I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.-1 -
I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.
so you're advising her to eat at a calorie defecit by increasing her exercise?
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I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.
Have you read any of this thread? Looked at OPs diary? OP has and answer and excuse for everything! I don't think she really wants to hear all the good advice she is getting.
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I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.
She needs to open up her diary back up and properly go through the process of finding out where she's under logging calories. How many people have you helped find out why they weren't losing weight and could you explain from that experience with examples on how to properly do it?
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I'm telling you if Leo wasn't so damn cute and lovable I would fire him. He's a terrible guard dog.GiveMeCoffee wrote: »
Yes, we know you are.I'm special
The question is, who let you out? Did you chew through the ropes again?GiveMeCoffee wrote: »DawnieB1977 wrote: »Accepting that you logging may not be correct might be the first step to achieving your goal.
^This.
I don't care how much your metabolism is messed up. You body requires a certain amount of energy to survivie. If you were truly eating only 1300 calories per day while also exercising then you should be losing weight.My question was more, how do you know you're in a deficit if you don't know what your TDEE is? "I feel I am in a deficit" is not nearly the same thing as knowing you are.
Based on your numbers, using a typical calculator, you are eating approximately an average person of your age/weight/height who works out 5 days a week's basal metabolic rate. Meaning you are actually undereating. You don't have to eat back your exercise calories, but you do need to give your body the fuel it needs to support the life you are living. Assuming that your work out is 300 calories or so, you would need to eat around 1600 calories give or take.
If you had acute anorexia nervosa as an adolescent, it leaves you at high risk of perpetuating those behaviors throughout life, while considering them normal. The average anorexia patient affects their metabolic process permanently, to a level where to maintain their body moving forward, they tend to need higher levels of calories than most average people.
Have you ever tried increasing your calories modestly? Are you always trying to cut, rather than considering that maybe you aren't eating enough for your activity habits? The closer you get to goal, the more accurate you have to be about these things... It's time to stop explaining the why and how of every suggestion, and actually consider a real change to YOUR habits, rather than looking for an excuse outside of your control.
Just my two cents, from another ED recovery patient to another.
Thanks for that point taken, I have been told I am under eating too, by a nurse. She works for a Dietitian, and she spoke to her about it. I will take your advice on board. Thanks for your honesty.
No, you are not under eating. If you were then you would be losing weight. Stop looking for the answers you want to hear.
At her height and weight she could eat more (so long as it's accurately logged). I lost more weight when I increased my calories from 1200 to 1500.
I'm not sure what you've set MFP to lose, but set it for 1lb a week rather than 2lbs, if that's what you've done.
I appreciate weight loss is probably harder in your 50s. I'm 37 and losing weight after my third baby, and it took me until about 6 months post partum for the weight to start dropping off, despite eating well and exercising since my 6 week check. Hormones are funny!
For me, exercise, especially strength training, is what works and helps me lose weight. Also make sure you take measurements as well as stepping on the scales.
I'm not going to argue or debate over a troll but I will say this, eat at an actual deficit, lose weight. That is how it works for everyone. Not eat to little and stop losing weight or gain weight.
Eat to little and yes you can risk losing lbm but you will still lose weight. Put simply, if I locked you in a basement for 1 month and fed you 800 calories, water and a mulit vitamin, you will lose weight. Guaranteed, 100% of the time. Leave someone in the woods for 7 days, lost and stranded, that person will lose weight no matter who they are. Everyone thinks they are special but the truth is that at the end of the day we're all humans.
Are you locking people in the basement again? Can you feed me 800 calories of pizza thanks!
Dawnie, I have a question for you, have you ever seen a contestant participate in the TV show Survivor, make it 25 or 30 days or to the end and come back fatter??
I bribed Leo with cookies to chew the ropes for me...
that's not a loveable dog
<-- that's a loveable dog - you can tell by the quantity of fluff0 -
I am shocked I didnt see post about water intake. Maybe I missed it.
Double your water intake and add a bowl of fresh homemade veggie soup or decaf tea to every meal for two weeks you will be amazed at the results.0 -
I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.
Thank you for your support, that is exactly what is what driving at the tone...I don't mind taking advice.0 -
Laurend224 wrote: »I'm sorry to people who think they aren't being rude but reading through a lot of this some of this does sound a bit pushy and I can understand why she's getting defensive, because it's coming across like she's some petulant child living in denial. Tone doesn't always translate well in text.
Also, you don't always just have to focus on the diet side of things. If you're eating 1300 and not losing weight, instead of going down less, switch up your exercise. Incorporate strength and resistance training, and mix around your cardio. Maybe try swimming, or if you jog alternating between and easy pace and bursts of sprinting. Increasing your muscle tone will keep you healthier and make you look better anyway
Also, going through the menopause really does affect your metabolism, health and well being. It's a drawn out process, it can increase risk of osteoporosis, so eating below 1200 isn't really great for that either. It's not making excuses because your body suddenly doesn't work the way it used to.
It's great that other people aren't having issues this woman is but the whole point of this community is that it's meant to be supportive. She says she has a digital scale, weighs food, doesn't eat back calories and uses the recipe builder. Enough of you have told her she's not eating at a deficit but should. Message received. If you don't have any alternative advice, then you don't really need to be in the thread. That's all I came here to say.
Have you read any of this thread? Looked at OPs diary? OP has and answer and excuse for everything! I don't think she really wants to hear all the good advice she is getting.
NO that not true0
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