Bulking – A Complete Guide For Beginners
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You estimating that you were 11% then gained 25 lbs in 2 months and only gained 3% bf? Can you post current pictures?
Well, I'm pretty sure it was below 11% but I said 11% just in case.
And if u could guide me on how I can post a picture, that would be great, and should I flex? or just stand without pulling my stomach? cuz u know it makes a difference, or both in 2 separate pics?
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NoMorePaiN7 wrote: »
You estimating that you were 11% then gained 25 lbs in 2 months and only gained 3% bf? Can you post current pictures?
Well, I'm pretty sure it was below 11% but I said 11% just in case.
And if u could guide me on how I can post a picture, that would be great, and should I flex? or just stand without pulling my stomach? cuz u know it makes a difference, or both in 2 separate pics?
Use the wee bit of paper with a folded corner icon (above the box for typing) to post pics.
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I'm at around 21% is it to soon to bulk? I've been cutting for abt 12 weeks went from 148lbs to about 136 lbs I still have some belly fat but feel I'm getting to small everywhere else. I still have my strength although I have had a couple weak days. I want to bulk but with the belly fat I'm not sure if it's to soon and maybe I should go another couple of weeks or so. Any input would be greatly appreciated. Loved the article by the way, very informative.0
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So I read this a few times and have some confusion; hoping someone can help clarify it.
1. When you bulk (especially on the 1st bulk), is it more ideal to do a lower rep 5 to 8 rep workout (power/strength) or a hypertrophy style 8-15 reps?
2. Should you bulk prior to hitting max reps in your program? If I read the article correctly, it appeared that you should maximize gains in your current program (hitting max reps) prior to going to a bulk to maximize the amount of nuclei produced during your bulk? If that is true, should would it benefit me to transition to maintenance for a few months to see if I get any additional gains from the extra 500 calories?
3. Is there a breakdown of the primary sugar sources to get during a bulk. It mentioned fructose is the least effective, and I know dextrose (found in gummy bears) is one of the most effective for replenishing glycogen, but what about in between?0 -
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Thanks MrM. If I have more questions, I will let you know.
ps- one follow up. So for a person who has been cutting for a few months, it is ideal to transition to maintenance for a few months prior to a bulk?0 -
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Thanks MrM. If I have more questions, I will let you know.
ps- one follow up. So for a person who has been cutting for a few months, it is ideal to transition to maintenance for a few months prior to a bulk?
You have different people that have different sentiments on that topic alone. Going to maintenance for a few months I would say absolutely not. That's just way to much time and I wouldn't see why it's necessary. After a prolonged caloric deficit we do experience a certain level of metabolic adaptation so in reality we would be guessing at guessing where maintenence is so if we choose a number we feel is maintenance and go straight to it then you potentially and likely over shoot your metabolic drive and can end up in a surplus. I prefer to reverse diet out of a deficit by adding 75 to 100 calories a week, mostly carbs and monitor weekly trends. Then I like to get somewhere where I see where my weight stall then I stay there for 2 or 3 weeks then I walk my way into a surplus. It takes more time and patience but I like doing it that way to be able to gather more accurate data as well as reducing that influx of glycogen and that fat boy feeling.
Some people prefer to just guess maintenance and go there, sit there for 2 or 3 weeks then hit a surplus.
They both have their benefits in my opinion.
Thanks. I will definitely take that into consideration when it comes time for me to bulk.
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What's the best way to measure body fat?! And as a "skinny fat" woman...what should my body fat percent be at before I bulk? Been lifting for 3 months now...I see changes...more muscle and fat...did I try to build muscle too early?! And can I build muscle without having to bulk? Sorry for the lame questions ...I'm new to the game.0
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rachelyahyah wrote: »What's the best way to measure body fat?! And as a "skinny fat" woman...what should my body fat percent be at before I bulk? Been lifting for 3 months now...I see changes...more muscle and fat...did I try to build muscle too early?! And can I build muscle without having to bulk? Sorry for the lame questions ...I'm new to the game.
Body fat calipers are one of the more accurate ways of measuring body fat. Here is the 12 point calculator that I use. But for this, you generally need someone to do it for you. If you have access to a DEXA or Hydrostatic (water immersion) they will be a lot more accurate. If you look at the link the MrM27 post in the first post, you can see an alternative way with a tap measure. But, IIRC, it's only accurate on pear or apple shaped women.0 -
Bulking after a cut is difficult, getting enough healthy calories to meet my goal is not easy. Anyone got any good macro foods with high calories.0
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This was awesome. Thanks for posting.0
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Awesome post the only thing I would say is I agree with the scale vs tape. However; a mirror will never deceive you0
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When ramping up your calories for a cut, the article suggests ramping up to just below your predicted TDEE, then continue with 100-200 calories a week until you hit the ~400 surplus. It says " there is no benefit to ramping up from a deficit to maintenance". It seems like if the goal is to raise leptin during the ramp, then you should raise your calories slowly from the deficit. Or is the leptin response just not very sensitive when you're in a deficit?0
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MrM, one thing that i have heard is that prolong periods of a deficit can reduce RMR, so its potential that a slow increase will not only stablize leptin but all "rebaseline" your RMR which will ensure you know your true maintenance.
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MrM, one thing that i have heard is that prolong periods of a deficit can reduce RMR, so its potential that a slow increase will not only stablize leptin but all "rebaseline" your RMR which will ensure you know your true maintenance.
Yeah a reduction in RMR will occur which is one of the main reason I like gradual increases because you just don't know what maintenance really is after a prolonged deficit and minimizes the chance of over shooting.
Thanks. That answered my question too.0 -
How much sleep is needed to be efficiently making gains and recovering at the same time? I'm having a hard time finding a good time to workout between both jobs and still having enough time to recover.0
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Cardio
Should I or shouldn’t I do cardio exercise when bulking?
That age old question.
Running on beach
If you enjoy running, there certainly is no need to stop doing it to bulk effectively.
Of course the answer is: it depends. If you are doing too much cardio, such as training for a marathon, or doing too intense of cardio, such as HIIT on your off days, cardio exercise could very well negatively impact your muscle gain. However some cardio, light to moderate volume and intensity, might actually keep your gains a little cleaner!
It is well established that low to moderate intensity cardio exercise primarily burns fat as a fuel source. Applying this fact to weight loss is misguided at best (overall loss will be dictated by calorie deficit).
However in the context of a weight gaining plan, this can actually be very useful as you can burn off some of the fat gain without compromising your surplus (assuming you aren’t fasting after your cardio exercise). At minimum it allows you to eat more overall for a given calorie surplus, ensuring that you are in fact building muscle around the clock.
As long as you eat enough to fuel your exercise, moderate amounts of cardio exercise will have little to no negative impact on muscle gains provided that it doesn’t interfere with your strength training or recovery.
I run about 8 miles a week and walk about 10 miles a week when I am bulking and am firmly convinced that it has a positive effect on muscle to fat gain ratio.
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What To Expect When You Are Bulking
What happens when you raise your calories into a surplus? Aside from having a lot of energy and a pep in your step, there are a few things to be aware of that you might not expect.
The Waves
The first has to do with the scale, what I like to refer to as the waves. Even with a constant calorie surplus, a consistent strength routine, and adequate rest, don’t expect weight gain to be linear.
Rather, the weight gain seems to ebb and flow, first the scale goes up at a frightening rate, then the scale gets stuck for a while, sometimes it even goes backwards. However to the tape measure these weight waves tend to be totally invisible.
The waves can make bulking very challenging mentally. When the scale is going up far faster than you expect (and sustaining it for weeks on end) it is really easy to second guess yourself. Then when it stops and just will not budge, it is just as easy to second guess yourself.
Don’t overadjust your calorie intake to the weight waves; overadjusting just exaggerates the effect. Try to stay calm mentally and ride it out, be confident that just around the corner is the other half of the wave. The overall trendline after a couple wave cycles should show your calorie surplus perfectly.
Weight chart
Weight chart from a bulk I did the fall of 2013, clearly showing weight waves. Blue dots are daily weigh-ins, white line is a weight trend line, red line is what my weight should have been based on my calorie intake. I was pretty much always in the midst of an ebb or flows of a weight wave; each wave lasting several weeks.
Measuring Progress
Piggybacking on the last point, the value of the scale for measuring progress when bulking is at times questionable at best. It can vary so much that it an be hard to make sense of; it helps to have a backup plan. This is where the tape measure especially is important.
With a soft tape measure you can measure both fat gain and muscle growth directly, especially in men and apple shaped women.
Waist measurements are absolutely key for measuring fat gain when bulking. No matter what the scale is doing, waist measurements tend to be quite reliable for judging fat gain. The waist is especially good because of how limited hypertrophy is in that area; almost all changes in body circumference will be due to body fat. In fact, using waist measurements for goal setting when bulking (total gain of 1″ for example) is much, much better way to do things than setting goals based off of the scale.
Unfortunately women, especially pear shaped women, will need more data points to measure fat gain. For women the hips (around the widest part of the glutes) and the upper thigh (each leg individually, as high as you can go with a thigh-only circumference measurement) should also be included, however be aware that these are both areas where significant hypertrophy will be observed, which will also be captured in the measurement.
For muscle gain, while we’d like “show muscles” to be the ones that grow, practically speaking areas like the forearms, upper arms, and calves show very slow growth and it tends to go in spurts instead of scaling linear with weight gain (1″ in the upper arm/calves per 15 lbs of muscle gain is a good rule of thumb). The areas where you will measurably gain muscle consistently is where the muscles are largest; the middle of the thighs, the chest, and the hips/glutes. When bulking these areas will often increase in size on a weekly basis.
Track a chest measurement and thigh measurement to verify that your muscle gain efforts are successful; do not measure your success (or lack thereof) using the upper arms or calves. Expecting consistent growth in the upper arms or calves will lead to nothing but frustration, you have to be patient with those areas.
Here is a good article/video from bodybuilding.com with good tips on how to measure various body parts.
Here is a good article with useful measurement charts for males to compare, for evaluating strengths/weaknesses. Sorry ladies, I’m not sure that anything like this exists for females.
Always remember, cutting is a battle of willpower, bulking is a battle of self-confidence.
Second guessing yourself is par for the course. It gets easier with experience, but never goes away. Try not to overadjust to and overanalyze things, have faith in your plan and stick with it.
When you are ready to cut and get rid of the fat gain, you’ll find that cutting following a bulk is a good bit easier than losing weight.
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Good Luck With Your Bulk!
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Possibly the best piece of information I have ever read here. I actually think I have read it before (this is an old thread, isn't it?)
Either way, awesome post and thanks for your amazing advice
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Old thread but bumping to keep it current. A lot of great info.0 -
So I have read the first post and just have a quick question, I will admit I haven't read all the replies, so sorry if this has been asked.
The "are you strong" section mentions having at least 4 to 6 months of strength work as a base before looking to start bulking.
I am around 162lbs, 20% BF (from scales so probably not accurate). I don't want to get much smaller than I am now. But as for base strength, I am probably quite weak, I do a lot of long distance running. Should I just eat at around maintenance for 4 to 6 months while really focusing on 5x5 SS and at the end of that look at moving in to bulk/cutting.
I have decided that next year I want to move away from running ultra distances and try my hand at more tough mudder style runs. So I want to really start working on my overall strength.0 -
Are you a male or female. Because that will determine the answer.So I have read the first post and just have a quick question, I will admit I haven't read all the replies, so sorry if this has been asked.
The "are you strong" section mentions having at least 4 to 6 months of strength work as a base before looking to start bulking.
I am around 162lbs, 20% BF (from scales so probably not accurate). I don't want to get much smaller than I am now. But as for base strength, I am probably quite weak, I do a lot of long distance running. Should I just eat at around maintenance for 4 to 6 months while really focusing on 5x5 SS and at the end of that look at moving in to bulk/cutting.
I have decided that next year I want to move away from running ultra distances and try my hand at more tough mudder style runs. So I want to really start working on my overall strength.
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Male, sorry forgot that bit of info.0
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I'm glad this got bumped this morning. Reading it is making me excited and I'm feeling better about this final cut so I can bulk!0
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1. How much calories surplus to bulk at above TDEE?
2. When weight gain stalls, how often should you increase your calories (weekly or every 2 weeks) and how much calories to increase?0
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