*RANT* Sugar, sugar, sugar!
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Yes (to OP)! Much of the advice from the government concerning food is both contradictory and unrealistic. The sad thing is that it makes people confused and frustrated, and disregard all of it, even the sensible and doable parts.0
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Why is my daily sugar goal at 75g on my MFP?... seems overly much now that I am reading this thread where people have a set amount of 20-25g. (I also do not want Liam Neeson to come after me.)
Its based on how many calories you are allotted per day....I get 1340, so my sugar is 27g.
Oh, I see. Thank you! I was getting a little worried. I'm new to MFP, trying to read up and get educated/informed. I'm right there with you on the sugar thing though, the first few days I went into the red on sugar and when I saw it I was like "WTF, I have ate so good today!" It was oranges and bananas (and yogurt/milk). You're supposed to get 5 servings of fruit a day, as well as your low-fat dairies.... but not go over that sugar? It's highly annoying. So you're not alone. I have just been trying to cut portions even more, or try lower sugar fruits instead. Good luck to you~0 -
Laurend224 wrote: »martyqueen52 wrote: »Unless you have medical issues with sugar, don't worry about it.
this..
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please...?
We aren't that lucky.
Replies to post are voluntary....don't like the topic of the post, don't reply, then you don't have to worry about the thread...promise!
Their point is, this thread comes up roughly daily. They begin to fill with loads of "sugar is the debil" misinformation. Many will come into these threads to disprove the misinformation, mostly for lurkers and noobs.
A dumpster fire normally ensues after that.
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I probably eat well over 75 grams a day, I don't track it, I haven't grown any horns, lol!!!
But I did lose 121 pounds!!
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Remember that there is a big difference between natural sugar and refined sugar... I generally subtract the natural sugars from my total at the end of the day. Yes, the red number is annoying, but if you give up fruits because of the sugar content, you will be missing out on other great nutrients. I generally try to keep my refined sugar under the MFP recommendation and don't worry about the natural sugars, like those from fruits and veggies.0
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martyqueen52 wrote: »Unless you have medical issues with sugar, don't worry about it.
this..
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skipping the banana- having two cookies instead!!!!It used to bother me. But sugar from fruit (consumed with fiber) is not metabolized the same way. I only worry about added sugars. I no longer track sugar in my macronutrients! I look at Carbs, fats, protein, fiber and sodium
also.
1.) no- sugar is sugar.
2.) sugar isn't a macro.
I mean- technially sugar is a carb and CARBS are a macros- but sugar isn't a macro itself. It's not that special .0 -
herrspoons wrote: »I heard that if you go over 25g of sugar Liam Neeson will come round and kill everyone.
Or you could just not worry about it.
Greatest response I've seen to ANY topic on here. Thanks for making my day!
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Also a PCOS'er and am on a modified sugar diet because of that as well. One trick for me is not to use milk (1 cup of 2% milk = 12 g of sugar because of the lactose), but to use a milk substitute. Personally, I really like the Good Karma brand Flax Milk+Protein (unsweeteend) in smoothies. It's like 50 calories a cup, 2 g carb/no sugar and gives a really similar flavor/texture to milk-based smoothies. But I also use unsweetened almond milk or unsweetened cashew milk.0
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I probably eat well over 75 grams a day, I don't track it, I haven't grown any horns, lol!!!
But I did lose 121 pounds!!
^She seems to know what she's talking about.
The new recommendations are regarding "added sugar" which would not be fruit, but there is no way to differentiate that since labels don't reflect added sugar (I believe that is in the updated USDA label though).
As stated previously, if you don't have a medical problem metabolizing sugar, there is no need to track it. Just track carbs of which sugar is a subset. Additionally, every diabetic I know doesn't actually track sugar, they also just track carbs.0 -
Sugar is hard for me too. I started with a serious sugar addiction. I choose to look at sugar like this: I minimize adding sugar, if I do add sugar I try to use "raw" sugar or honey. I don't knowingly use artificial sweeteners, I think they are bad for my own reasons. I don't knowingly eat anything with high fructose corn syrup, I also believe it is bad. I have thrown out all of my white refined sugar in the cupboard. What's left? Natural sugars that occur in things like fruits and veggies. My body has learned to crave these things now that I have mostly eliminated the above mentioned. I feel this is a good "compromise" on the sugar subject and therefore do not track it. Good Luck!0
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I pay attention mostly to total calories. Too many calories is what makes you overweight which in turn is the cause of or what exacerbates many health problems. Get your calories under control first and foremost and then worry about macros and micros - or just don't bother with the latter like me. There's enough other things to worry about in life.0
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As stated, all sugars are just carbs. Track your carbs and don't worry about sugars.
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I thought that too initially. Instead, I switched out my banana for blueberries or something way less sweet in the morning. I still will have lots of sugar if I do a smoothie in the morning, so I ultimately had to stop. But I am prediabetic, so I needed to watch my sugars. Unless you have medical issues, this shouldn't really be a problem for you.
I have also been pre-diabetic and have PCOS so I do "try" to eat less sugar, but it isn't my main concern when losing weight because the sugar I do consume is mostly natural, so I figure shouldn't be as bad as let's say, a bag of M&M's...
From a micronutrient standpoint this would be true, but from a blood glucose level standpoint it is not. With insulin resistance I think you'll find the recommendation to be lower carbs overall and focus on slowing digestion when eating carbs is most important.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »I heard that if you go over 25g of sugar Liam Neeson will come round and kill everyone.
Or you could just not worry about it.
If I hit 25 exactly will Liam Neeson come round and not kill anyone?
Just asking. For a friend.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »I heard that if you go over 25g of sugar Liam Neeson will come round and kill everyone.
Or you could just not worry about it.
If I hit 25 exactly will Liam Neeson come round and not kill anyone?
Just asking. For a friend.
that, my friend, is an EXCELLENT question.0 -
HaggisWhisperer wrote: »It looks like the MFP guidelines are in line with the new draft recommendations from the WHO. I would probably shoot for the max of 25g (particularly since you have PCOS) but really try not to go over 50g to stay with the guidelines.
"WHO’s current recommendation, from 2002, is that sugars should make up less than 10% of total energy intake per day. The new draft guideline also proposes that sugars should be less than 10% of total energy intake per day. It further suggests that a reduction to below 5% of total energy intake per day would have additional benefits. Five per cent of total energy intake is equivalent to around 25 grams (around 6 teaspoons) of sugar per day for an adult of normal Body Mass Index (BMI).
The suggested limits on intake of sugars in the draft guideline apply to all monosaccharides (such as glucose, fructose) and disaccharides (such as sucrose or table sugar) that are added to food by the manufacturer, the cook or the consumer, as well as sugars that are naturally present in honey, syrups, fruit juices and fruit concentrates."
I'm trying to limit the amount of sugar in my diet - in my opinion there does appear to be enough of a relationship between sugar consumption and diabetes/metabolic syndrome disease (from an epidemiological standpoint) for me to try and make some changes.
It will be interesting to see what the final guidelines say when they are published.
I have PCOS and I'm over 100g of sugar probably every day, a good deal of it coming from my apple, strawberries, blueberries, raspberries, blackberries, etc.
Does that mean I get multiple Liam Neesons?0 -
I know I'm going to get backlash for saying this, but opinions are like butts, everyone has them...
Anyway, if you have PCOS and are pre-diabetic, you might want to research a ketogenic diet. It's essentially eating 70% fat, 25% protein, and 5% carb. This means keeping carbs to about 20g or a day. Its possible if fruit is eliminated and food it watched. It's been proven to help both ailments.
Again, it's an opinion. Do the research. Or don't and ignore this post.0 -
herrspoons wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »I heard that if you go over 25g of sugar Liam Neeson will come round and kill everyone.
Or you could just not worry about it.
If I hit 25 exactly will Liam Neeson come round and not kill anyone?
Just asking. For a friend.
Nope. He'll phone you, tell you about his special skills, and give you the chance to stop. I think you know what'll happen if you don't.
Good Luck.
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brenstar05 wrote: »Remember that there is a big difference between natural sugar and refined sugar... I generally subtract the natural sugars from my total at the end of the day. Yes, the red number is annoying, but if you give up fruits because of the sugar content, you will be missing out on other great nutrients. I generally try to keep my refined sugar under the MFP recommendation and don't worry about the natural sugars, like those from fruits and veggies.herrspoons wrote: »No there isn't. Sugars are sugars.
Yes there is. Natural sugar is created by nature. It exists in relationship to other nutrients.
Refined sugar is created in a sugar factory. It no longer exists in relationship to other nutrients.
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Losing weight in general has also been shown to help both ailments. As well as a moderate decrease in the amount of carbs.I know I'm going to get backlash for saying this, but opinions are like butts, everyone has them...
Anyway, if you have PCOS and are pre-diabetic, you might want to research a ketogenic diet. It's essentially eating 70% fat, 25% protein, and 5% carb. This means keeping carbs to about 20g or a day. Its possible if fruit is eliminated and food it watched. It's been proven to help both ailments.
Again, it's an opinion. Do the research. Or don't and ignore this post.
Keto may help some people, others may find it overly restrictive. If people want to consider it, they should do the research first, I agree.0 -
DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »herrspoons wrote: »brenstar05 wrote: »Remember that there is a big difference between natural sugar and refined sugar... I generally subtract the natural sugars from my total at the end of the day. Yes, the red number is annoying, but if you give up fruits because of the sugar content, you will be missing out on other great nutrients. I generally try to keep my refined sugar under the MFP recommendation and don't worry about the natural sugars, like those from fruits and veggies.
No there isn't. Sugars are sugars.
Yes there is. Natural sugar occurs naturally. Refined sugar is refined.
If you want to argue that they are digested exactly the same way, that's a different story.
giggle. chuckle.
wait... laugh.
wait- where do you think refined sugar comes from ultimately?
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And where do you get natural sugar- you eat it right off a sugar cane branch??
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they don't just pull it out of thin air and fecal matter- the actual sugar comes from somewhere- just because it's refined doesn't mean it's bad- thank god- or no one would wear diamonds- or wear clothes.0
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Laurend224 wrote: »Track fiber.
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Here I see two very beautiful pictures of a sugar factory. So?DeirdreWoodwardSanders wrote: »Here's are two more pretty pictures of the Baltimore sugar factory:
If refined sugar is made in factories, can you give me a recipe?
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So you don't spaz out and post ridiculous things when you notice that you've gone over your daily sugar intake.
And, fiber helps the poops.
PaigePugmire wrote: »Laurend224 wrote: »Track fiber.
Why?
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Ooh, can I play? Here is another picture of where sugar comes from!
https://stephenleahy.files.wordpress.com/2008/02/sugar-cane-field-oz-rslpix1.jpg0 -
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